O_o its a spiritual thing, after all he is african, i mean thats like making fun of a native american for praying to an animal he just killed
theres no fact that proves batman is superior in fighting compared to black panther, you could just stop trying to prove otherwise with your opinions, just because one sifted through it faster than the other doesnt make him superior
BUB what are you talking about? Because you got me seeing question marks, on your first paragraph.
BUB, what I said is not opinion about batman putting more time is his training that black panther. 🙂
just because one sifted through it faster than the other doesnt make him superior
It does if the person that sifted through it faster becomes a master. 🙂
a master by dc's standards, not by marvels standards....which means there is no fact that proves one is better than the other, for all you know master in dc could be ironfist standards in marvel
i dont know, your sentence about panthers spirituality got me seeing question marks too, BUB
what the hell are you saying? first you say batman had to intensly rush through martial arts, then you say batman put more time in his training than black panther.....thats a make-shift comeback if i've ever heard one, BUB
Black panthers spirituality?? I did not say this, I just respond to Wynndars who said that it is because of black panthers spirituality that he has panther reflexes, and tendencies. And if my memory serves me you LOL at it.
This is what I was responding to.
Originally posted by Wynndar
Yea he is...and he is all around one of their best fighters...IMO better than captain america, who he was able to easily stalemate while holding back. Not only is he a top martial artist who was trained since his early childhood, he has panther like reflexes and tendencies, resulting from his spritual closeness to the panther... why did you comment on BP not having the training of Bruce Wayne when you knew nothing at all about his training?...BP is basically everything Batman is...but held to a higher standard since he was raised to be the ruler of the second most powerful nation on Earth (behind Latveria).
what the hell are you saying? first you say batman had to intensely rush through martial arts, then you say batman put more time in his training than black panther.....thats a make-shift comeback if i've ever heard one, BUB
The key word here is intensely, (I may not have worded it correctly but you got the message). I also said that T'challa as been training longer than batman. But batman put more into his training in order to become batman than T'Challa did.
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Just scroll down to one of their category called talents. What you see has to back up my claim in a small way!!
lol, i think sifting through martial ARTS simply makes no sense, i remember a while ago in another thread someone said that batman actually never mastered more than 3 or 4 martial arts and not each and every one, mastering aikido alone would take a lifetime, as martial arts arent always dealt with expertise but simply time
Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Even though it is your opinion that Panther is the greatest fighter, but we all know that the greatest fighter in marvel universe is non other than Captain America. Comparing with the captain, panther is a baby. Sorry it is true, because his super soldier serum puts his sacred herb to shame, strength wise that is.True that the panther started his training at a younger age around six because correct me if I am wrong did he not start the training in the hopes of one day avenging his father because of Klaw?🙂
Batman started his own training after the panther but his training as a kid have to have been intense. In order to be the batman. T'Challa took his time while batman took a more faster paste and thus has a lot more under his belt, this is why I commented on BP not having the training of Bruce Wayne. But the end results still put Panther and the batman on equal footing.
So the Black panther, has panther like reflexes, and tendencies because he has spiritual closeness to the panther. BUB if this what you are saying, then it is you who do not know the Black Panther (Your own guy for crying out loud). Correct me if I am wrong here, what the panther have, has nothing to do with the fact that he ate the sacred heart shape herb that is only given to the leader of the Wakanga people? R..I..G..H..T! 🙂
Again...You make a statement like calling BP inferior to Cap...however, this is not up for a dispute..Captain America went all out against BP and couldnt do anything...Afterward BP revealed he was not trying to harm Cap, merely test if he was fighting the real thing...Thus, if BP had wanted to, he probably take Cap, since he could stalemate Cap on the offensive while demonstrating no defense of his own. Super solier vs BP herb? They do the same thing in terms of strength...the can both lift about 800lbs, or they both demonstrate the peak in human strength, no more no less, again, you've amazed me with your knowledge. The root does give T'Challa increases, but it is not the only explanation for why he fights like a cat...his spiritual closeness to the BP is esssential, just read his fight against the BP god. There is no evidence Bats trained harder than T'Challa...that is simply your opinion that you are trying to convince us as fact. Let me refrase my statement earlier...the Catlike behavior of BP is due to his spiritual closeness to the BP...the physical increases r due to the Herb.
Wynndar is correct. The Black Panther's powers do not just come from the heart-shaped herb which he nearly died to retrieve. They originate from his strong spiritual connection with the Panther Spirit ( God ). This connection gives him an indomitable will/strength which cannot be broken. For example when T'Challa fought against Mephisto. His own SOUL deflected and defeated him due to its strong mystical ties with the Panther God. So even though he's got an advantage within his own enhanced abilities he also has a great deal of mystical energy which isn't often mentioned. The man has a literal God supplying him with mysticisms.
it really doesnt matter the fights start like this.
panther sees bat and think his been sent to kill him. so panther starts fighting bats, bat is blocking panther with no problem.panther thinks to him self, his not that bad in fighting lets see how he like this. panther strikes with speed bats didnt expect cathng im in the ribs. bat is stuned for a sec.panthetr smiles even though u cant tell cuss his wearing a mask.bats gt ready tofight. panther charges at bat but bat dunks an hits him in the chest and gut.pnthers suit takes most ofthe damage. seeng how his attack barely effected panther bats gets dirty.they keep fighting for 2 hours straight with no vctor pantherbeing faster but bat reading his fighting style to counter them. after another few hours batman says to panther I can tell u have a lotta money wana go buy a chicken burger at
McDonald's then buy McDonald's after were done, panther says good idea I m hungry. the point of this story is comics make no sense and dont try to understand them one min Silversurfer can take a atomic bomb with no problem the next he almost dies from fallng of hi surfboard
They way black panther took care of magneto is exactly the same situation that batman is going to implement only his is going to be cooler.
Now Wynndar was that so hard. That particular sentence now makes sense to me. Thanks for clarifying the spiritual thing.
well since classicmarvel.com has less credibility than Mark Ferman, I don't see the point.
The point is batman having allot more talents than panther proves that what I am saying (about batman training more intensely than panther) might be true.
What have you presented to prove other wise?
Originally posted by Wynndar
Again...You make a statement like calling BP inferior to Cap...however, this is not up for a dispute..Captain America went all out against BP and couldnt do anything...Afterward BP revealed he was not trying to harm Cap, merely test if he was fighting the real thing...Thus, if BP had wanted to, he probably take Cap, since he could stalemate Cap on the offensive while demonstrating no defense of his own. Super solier vs BP herb? They do the same thing in terms of strength...the can both lift about 800lbs, or they both demonstrate the peak in human strength, no more no less, again, you've amazed me with your knowledge. The root does give T'Challa increases, but it is not the only explanation for why he fights like a cat...his spiritual closeness to the BP is esssential, just read his fight against the BP god. There is no evidence Bats trained harder than T'Challa...that is simply your opinion that you are trying to convince us as fact. Let me refrase my statement earlier...the Catlike behavior of BP is due to his spiritual closeness to the BP...the physical increases r due to the Herb.
Word to the wise Captain America can bench press a total of 800lbs while the panther can bench press a total of 750lbs. The super soldier serum makes captain America stronger than black panther.
Thanks on the knowledge thing. I always try to do best.
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the 750 vs 800 is purely based on their body weight...cap is heavier and thus he should lift more...I would also like to see where it ever said in an actual comic book what they both bench press...not an unofficial website. they both lift about 400% of their body weight....BP lifts slightly more than 400% while Cap lifts less than 400%...thus Panther is stronger for his size...he only weighs 185 while Cap is 240...so what do u have to say about the root vs the serum now?