Black Panther versus Batman.

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
They way black panther took care of magneto is exactly the same situation that batman is going to implement only his is going to be cooler.

Now Wynndar was that so hard. That particular sentence now makes sense to me. Thanks for clarifying the spiritual thing.

The point is batman having allot more talents than panther proves that what I am saying (about batman training more intensely than panther) might be true.

What have you presented to prove other wise?

Batman does not have more talents than BP...that fight with Magneto is another fight unique to BP cuz he is the only one on the planet with that much access to Vibranium...that solution would not have been available to Bats...you keep on saying bias statements like Bats is smarter, stronger, more talented, better trained, with absolutely nothing to back it up...Batman would do it cooler? yes now u r definitely revealing why u thinkg Bats would win, simply because u like him better...Im not going to be using personal opinions..Im just going to prove my point with the facts.

from everyones arguments (i thought this topic was dead long ago) i think bp would definitely take the win, and personally i would still want bp to win

Black Panther and Batman are so similiar and yet so diverse it's crazy. Black Panther's advantages over Batman are evident. I think T'Challa would win even if it were by a small margine.

Originally posted by Wynndar
750 vs 800 is purely based on their body weight...cap is heavier and thus he should lift more...I would also like to see where it ever said in an actual comic book what they both bench press...not an unofficial website. they both lift about 400% of their body weight....BP lifts slightly more than 400% while Cap lifts less than 400%...thus Panther is stronger for his size...he only weighs 185 while Cap is 240...so what do u have to say about the root vs the serum now?

So black panther weights 185lbs, this means he is stronger for his size, while Cap. weights 240lbs, this means he is also stronger for his size. 😕

Let me try this again, the fact that captain America can bench press 800lbs. is due to the fact that he weighs more and should be able to lift more? Your logic states that because Captain America weighs more he can bench press more? If a person can bench press 2 ton more than a person who can bench press 1ton. Doesn't this means that the person who lift 2ton is stronger than the person who lifts 1ton?

Black panther and captain America as you said can lift 400% of their body weight but black panther can lift a little beat more than 400%, and captain America lifts less than 400%. Hmm... What are you basing this on? I would like to know.

And you just finish telling me that since as captain America weights more he should lift more because of his body weight. By you own words you are saying that captain America is stronger because he weighs more and can lift more.

Originally posted by Wynndar
Batman does not have more talents than BP...that fight with Magneto is another fight unique to BP cuz he is the only one on the planet with that much access to Vibranium...that solution would not have been available to Bats...you keep on saying bias statements like Bats is smarter, stronger, more talented, better trained, with absolutely nothing to back it up...Batman would do it cooler? yes now u r definitely revealing why u thinkg Bats would win, simply because u like him better....Im not going to be using personal opinions..Im just going to prove my point with the facts

I said batman is more talented because of http://www.classicmarvel.com. and what they presented, and also what I know about the two. I never said that batman was stronger.

....Im not going to be using personal opinions..Im just going to prove my point with the facts

And this coming from someone who said and I quote 750 vs 800 is purely based on their body weight...cap is heavier and thus he should lift more...I would also like to see where it ever said in an actual comic book what they both bench press...not an unofficial website. they both lift about 400% of their body weight....BP lifts slightly more than 400% while Cap lifts less than 400%...thus Panther is stronger for his size...he only weighs 185 while Cap is 240...so what do u have to say about the root vs the serum now?
serum still beats root. Where does it say that Cap. can lift less than 400% of his body weight?

If you want to continue this captain and panther thing we should travel to their own thread.

Batman wins, he shreds that suit off until BP is fighting naked and knocks him silly. If he doesn't have the vibranium on he goes down in no time.

lifeisaglich...sorry if i was confusing there...the 800 and 750 lb thing is from directories and handbooks...based on those numbers it appears that the Panther lifts a liitle more than 400% of his body weight while Cap is slightly below 400% his body weight.

Generally speaking, any character in Marvel who is considered peak human like Cap or Panther, can lift 400% their body weight...however according to the handbook's Panther and Cap fluctuate right outside of 400%...

I dont think there is any point in arguing about the strength thing, its not really relevant...nor is the contest between the serum and the root

Based on my knowledge of the two, and what they have done in comics, it would be a really really close fight...I will go with my personal favorite though, Black Panther.

These are two evenly matched character similar in alot of ways. If they fought I would give it to Batman cause of his fighting edge and all of those wonderful toys he has at his disposal. Alot of people dont realize that Bats suit is made out of Kevlar and is Bullet proof and is resistant to flames and such. I respect BP but against Bats he is outclassed.

i think u might not know enough about BP...gadgets? technology? kevlar?...BP is who Batman wishes he was

Wynndar you disappoint me. In every Marvel vs DC thread you pick the Marvel guy no matter what. You are a narrow minded comic fan and those types ruin these fights cause they never give their true opinon.

Perhaps, but Wynndar's still right!

Originally posted by juggernaut74
These are two evenly matched character similar in alot of ways. If they fought I would give it to Batman cause of his fighting edge and all of those wonderful toys he has at his disposal. Alot of people dont realize that Bats suit is made out of Kevlar and is Bullet proof and is resistant to flames and such. I respect BP but against Bats he is outclassed.

First, Kevlar? As wonderfully potent as the substance might be it's a poor comparison to Vibranium. I assume from your comments that you're particularly ignorant of the arsenal that the Panther holds as his disposal? Well first off his suit is made of a vibranium micro-weave mesh that saps the momentum of any objects that are bluntly hurled, tossed, shot and thrust at him. That includes all manner of weapons from sub machine guns, batarangs, fists, knives and the Hulk. ( Heh. ) Vibranium tends to absorb the impact of any and all solid projectiles. Also Panther has anti-metal claws which break down any and all known metals at the molecular level. They've even been said to have the ability to cripple adamantium with relative ease. So if it did come to a hand to hand fight and the Cat popped his claws -- Batman's suit would do little to defend his body against such a weapon. And yes, Batman would get slashed eventually. The vibranium suit also enhances the wearers agility and durability allowing them to leap easily from a 30 story building and land without making a sound. Panther has been known to leap over vast chasms and high rooftops landing without incident. His boots are laced with a polarized vibranium which allows him enhanced strength and the ability to repel or shatter anything that comes into contact with them. Mind you, T'Challa's country has cornered the market on vibranium and continue to be the only known source within the Marvel Universe of the metal.

Second, Panther is an enhanced human. His strength, speed, agility and durability are all attributed to not only the heart shaped herb which he consumed AFTER considerable training but also to the Panther God which in early issues is said to be the source of the Panther Chieftain's true power. These in conjunction with his suit and myriad of gadgets and technology would put him a step above the Batman. Not to mention the fact that T'Challa is also a well educated and undisputed genius in the various fields he's undertaken from advanced science to battle tactics. Not unlike the Batman.

I'd say Batman was the one outclassed here. He's taking on an opponent who's just as intelligent as he is, just as resourceful, who also WINS in his OWN comics like everyone else and who's obviously stronger, faster, more durable and agile. I agree that were this a fan vote the Batman would most likely win but in all truth and from an objectional point of view a Black Panther would put Batman down no matter how much it might take out of him. No one outranks the King.

Batman does indeed bow down to the King here.

Black Panther, bar none.

If black panthers suit absorbs fist punches how come he gets hit by people like white ape, and kilmonger please do not tell me that they have also taken the special herb. or have one of their own because if his suit can absorb fist punches then he should not get hurt by anyone throwing a punch.

On the latest superman batman # 12 batman got beaten by darksied and all he has to show for it was beaten up face and a broken arm (this should tell you that his kelvar does more than protect him from bullets. thanks to the help of the mother box) Batman's weaponry includes does of apokalips, and kryptonian tech. And also he was able to build robotic versions of the intire JLA to help him fight Grudd.

The batman has alot of arsenal than just the ones he constantly uses as like the divise he used once used to sap supermans power and give it to himself. This happened in another JLA episode that I can't seem to find. Or I might be wrong but please if anybody have any information about such an event please share.

Inhanced senses, agility, strenght all given to him by the use of the herb. Now deathstroke has all these gifts and then some for instance he uses 90 percent of his brain and also gives him immortality. Deathstroke is the oposite of Captain America becasue deathstroke also got his own gift from a government experiement. And he also put down half of the JLA heros in identity crisises. He has gotten the best of batman but batman has gotten the best of him as well.

Ziess is an inhanced human with the ability to see the world in slow motion but batman has got the better of him.

Being Inhanced against the batman does not mean you are going to win. And the fact is they hardly ever win.

Sorry for not editing but I have to go

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
On the latest superman batman # 12 batman got beaten by darksied and all he has to show for it was beaten up face and a broken arm (this should tell you that his kelvar does more than protect him from bullets. thanks to the help of the mother box) Batman's weaponry includes does of apokalips, and kryptonian tech. And also he was able to build robotic versions of the intire JLA to help him fight Grudd.

apokalips? theres an apokalips in DC?

fa shizzle. Batman wins with ease.

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
The batman has alot of arsenal than just the ones he constantly uses as like the divise he used once used to sap supermans power and give it to himself. This happened in another JLA episode that I can't seem to find. Or I might be wrong but please if anybody have any information about such an event please share.

batman gets beat and goes off crying to oracle....wait, she's dead

The only thing panther beats is Batsy meat.

...batman is dc's greatest detective, and marvels greatest pu$$y

u are what u eat I guess.