How is the not specific enough?
Rumors of wars: Iraq
Peace treaty: No signs of it now since its not going to happen until after the rapture.
AntiChrist: is someone who is going to rise up on the scene in the midst of total chaos and offer the world someone that will help get theres lives back on track.....briefly. Someone who people are going to look up to in the midst of choas for all the answers and he's going to give them. Theologians estimate that he's alive now. Still no signs of it because its not something thats going to happen until AFTER THE RAPTURE. He is supposed to come out of Rome.
ok, let's make this simple.
see, in the olden days when people were creative, flowery, allegorical and eloquent, people often wrote opinions, predictions, and ideologies as incredible stories of faith, myth, and divinity. A great example would be Dante's Divine Comedy.
Now times weren't particularly grand for christianity or abrahamic faiths in general due to roman persicution, a bloated, excessive empire, and the threat of barbarians completely destroying civilization as they knew it. A very astute sociologist and political scientist living in exile named John predicted in a way worthy of his trade wrote his predictions of the reorganization of the empire, the coming turmoil, and the triumph of christianity in the form of biblical poetry in order to give hope to his people and to publish antiroman works that would go undetected by your average, uneducated centurian or conscripted barbarian. If he wrote things down in a literal way they would not be inspiring, interesting, or safe.
Now after the dark ages and with the exception of a few very intelligent individuals (dante, milton, etc.), christians have proven to be very unfamiliar with the literary tools of metaphor, simile and imagery and so have decided to shove revalations into the bible, throw some more accurate, flowery political theses in as apocryphal writings, and pretend that a few astute thinkers' predictions of events that already happened are god's horrible predictions for the future.
the moral: If your going to be a religious leader, scholar, or authority, you should be well read and have a phd in liturature from an acredited university before you open your fat mouth.
Originally posted by Punker69The Rapture or secret catching away is not even mentioned in scripture. So, chances are if this is gonna happen you're gonna be right here!! Also, there is no peace treaty to be made mentioned in scripture. It says a "Covenant to be confirmed', which means something that was already in place. And wars and rumors of wars have always been. You use the word "AntiChrist", are you confusing "Beast" with Antichrist? Are you reading Timothy Lahay books?...If so, put them down....lol
How is the not specific enough?Rumors of wars: Iraq
Peace treaty: No signs of it now since its not going to happen until after the rapture.
AntiChrist: is someone who is going to rise up on the scene in the midst of total chaos and offer the world someone that will help get theres lives back on track.....briefly. Someone who people are going to look up to in the midst of choas for all the answers and he's going to give them. Theologians estimate that he's alive now. Still no signs of it because its not something thats going to happen until AFTER THE RAPTURE. He is supposed to come out of Rome.
Originally posted by xyz revolution
How the **** can the garden of eden and a flood be true?
Mythology can have a bases in reality, but it can be difficult to understand at times.
I saw a program about the Black Sea flood. About 8,000 years ago the Black was cut off from the Mediterranean Sea and sea leave was far lower then it is now. This may have been the origins of the flood story. Also see the story that predates the bible called Gilgamesh.
http://www.ancienttexts.org/library/mesopotamian/gilgamesh/
sleepy
Did anyone catch that report that Stephen Colbert did on the Colbert Report last night?
He did a review on "Misquoting Jesus" a book. In it the author states that the story about Jesus and the prostitute might not even be true since it wasn't in the first scriptures of the bible. That it was probably added later on to teach a lesson.
Well i told my step-dad about this. My mom, sister, and him are big church-goers. They tend to act really religous. On the other hand my brother and I frankly dont give a shit for church. Well he starts going on with this story about Lutherans and baptists.(We're catholic) About how they change it to suit them. He's ignoring the main point that Im getting at. So I tell him again that it was catholics who could've changed it and he says its a bunch of lies. That they're making it up. Then he says Jesus wrote the bible. That he started the catholic religion.
Im there looking at him, wondering how thick-headed my family and probably the church I go to is. I mean how did Jesus write the bible? It said nothing of that anywhere. Or that he started the catholic religion? I mean how could they know about jesus being the messiah if there was no catholic religon?
I was so pissed off...
Right now as I'm typing I keep minimizing this page so my family won't see the name of this thread. They would get so mad and probably take away my TV and stuff...last time i was caught reading a review on "The Da Vinci code" and they took my TV, PSP, DS, and my cable(I had a smaller TV hidden away.) They blamed Family Guy and Futurama and ADULT SWIM for it. Saying it's giving me ideas.
I can't wait to get out of this house...
Originally posted by JLred
Did anyone catch that report that Stephen Colbert did on the Colbert Report last night?He did a review on "Misquoting Jesus" a book. In it the author states that the story about Jesus and the prostitute might not even be true since it wasn't in the first scriptures of the bible. That it was probably added later on to teach a lesson.
Well i told my step-dad about this. My mom, sister, and him are big church-goers. They tend to act really religous. On the other hand my brother and I frankly dont give a shit for church. Well he starts going on with this story about Lutherans and baptists.(We're catholic) About how they change it to suit them. He's ignoring the main point that Im getting at. So I tell him again that it was catholics who could've changed it and he says its a bunch of lies. That they're making it up. Then he says Jesus wrote the bible. That he started the catholic religion.
Im there looking at him, wondering how thick-headed my family and probably the church I go to is. I mean how did Jesus write the bible? It said nothing of that anywhere. Or that he started the catholic religion? I mean how could they know about jesus being the messiah if there was no catholic religon?
I was so pissed off...
Right now as I'm typing I keep minimizing this page so my family won't see the name of this thread. They would get so mad and probably take away my TV and stuff...last time i was caught reading a review on "The Da Vinci code" and they took my TV, PSP, DS, and my cable(I had a smaller TV hidden away.) They blamed Family Guy and Futurama and ADULT SWIM for it. Saying it's giving me ideas.
I can't wait to get out of this house...
try punchin em in the teeth next time they try to do that, it supposed to work wonders. or better, just stand up to em.