Originally posted by red g jacks
from what i understand, that number of jews could have never survived wandering the desert for that many years and even if they could, the archaeological evidence points towards the idea that they never invaded canaan as a great army but rather they were natives of that very land.
There is little, if any, evidence that Hebrew people were kept as slaves by the Egyptians.
Originally posted by Bat Dude"But with the blast shield down, I can't even see! How am I supposed to fight!"
"If then God so clothe the grass, which is to day in the field, and to morrow is cast into the oven; how much more will he clothe you, O ye of little faith?"Luke 12:28
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
"But with the blast shield down, I can't even see! How am I supposed to fight!"
The fact that you can take nothing seriously, even the fate of your own soul, really troubles me.
I pray your soul be saved, if it be even possible at this point...
Originally posted by Oliver North
I find your lack of faith disturbing...
It's not a matter of not having faith (if he can be saved, I have full faith that God can reach him) it's just a matter of some people "cross a line" so to speak with God and they can't get saved afterward. That's between the individual and God. God even mentions this in His Word:
"Therefore pray not thou for this people, neither lift up a cry or prayer for them: for I will not hear them in the time that they cry unto me for their trouble."
Jeremiah 11:14
And Jesus mentions something similar to this, as well:
"Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men."
Matthew 12:31
Now like I said, I WILL pray for him that he may get saved, but I don't know him personally, and with the absolute lack of respect he shows not only God's Word, but God Himself, I don't know if he's crossed that line yet...
Originally posted by Bat DudeKid, I've flown from one side of Canada to the other, I've seen a lot of strange stuff... but I've never seen anything to make me believe that there is some all-eternal soul within... everyone. There's no fictional divine substance controls my destiny. It's all a lot of simple wishes and nonsense.
The fact that you can take nothing seriously, even the fate of your own soul, really troubles me.I pray your soul be saved, if it be even possible at this point...
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Kid, I've flown from one side of Canada to the other, I've seen a lot of strange stuff... but I've never seen anything to make me believe that there is some all-eternal soul within... everyone. There's no fictional divine substance controls my destiny. It's all a lot of simple wishes and nonsense.
That is why God requires faith. Not faith in a system. Not faith in a church. Not faith in a priest, or a pastor. Heck, not even faith in being good.
Faith that God loved you enough to give His only begotten son, who came down from heaven to pay your sin debt. None of us are "good" at heart. It's just the way it is. That's why until Jesus Christ Himself returns, there will always be murder. Always be rape. Always be lies, and hypocrisy, and wickedness. It's our nature that we inherited from Adam a LONG time ago. Accepting that this is the case and putting actual FAITH in Jesus and His sacrifice on the cross to cleanse you of that sin is what will save you.
You say that you haven't "seen" anything to make you believe. That's the wrong way to do it. Jesus Himself said:
"A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed."
Matthew 16:4
If we just followed signs and wonders and miracles, how would that take any faith? It also says:
"But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him."
Hebrews 11:6
Demons can do apparent signs and wonders as well. If you've ever (and I don't suggest doing it) played one of those spooky "slumber party" games, those things actually happen. Why? Because demons are making them happen. They know that if you continue doing those things, if you believe in ghosts and apparitions and all these other things, you won't accept Jesus Christ or His Gospel (and thus be cast into hell) because you put more faith in what you SAW, rather than what was TRUE.
The funny part of your last sentence is that you say it is simple wishes and nonsense. The truth is that no secular person (or pew-warming Christian, for that matter) wishes that there is a holy and benevolent God, because they would be held accountable for their actions. It's a lot easier to believe that either:
a) There is no God.
"The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good."
Psalm 14:1
Or... (in the case of New Agers or "prosperity" preachers)
b) God is only love.
Neither is true. God exists whether man wants to believe He does or not. And while, yes, God is a God of love, He is also a God of judgment.
"And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?"
Romans 2:3
Originally posted by Bat DudeThat your God requires anything from humans is reason enough to doubt His sorry ass.
That is why God requires faith.
But if you meant to say that "This is why humans require faith (in God)", then I'm right behind you.
And don't quote me the Bible. I take everything ever written as the word of failed, flawed, and fallible humans, no matter their own claim to the contrary. Pony up some evidence of God's direct word first.
Originally posted by Omega VisionNo, semantics is common here. Arguments done solely in text tend to dissolve in to that.
Rhetorics?Do you mean semantics?
Rhetoric; persuasion. I've only ever known 'debate' to be an argument of fixed positions, with an intent to win over or persuade a third party or audience. And I've known rhetoric to be more about persuading your opponent to your side, rather than just defeating them in argument.
Originally posted by ThePainefulTrut
Jesus died and was buried--a fact that archaeological evidence is uncovering right now.
Which archaeologists? Also: How does one identify him as Jesus?
I love the one tomb that says "Son of Joseph" that totally has to be Jesus's tomb because there was only one Joseph in all of history who had a son. The tomb where Jesus was buried in Japan might be more amusing at a passing glance, though.
It's also a fact that Jesus was white, with sandy-blond hair, sparkling blue eyes, and a perfect row of the whitest teeth Roman orthodontics could provide. He was also exactly 6' tall, loved mutton, hated gay people, and thought the black folks (which he wasn't one of) needed to be reminded who was the master in these parts.
Also he was American and owned two of every gun.