For me, both sucked the same. I loved the first rocky, i only liked the second one and i hate the rest. Since the third, it was too unbelievle for me, the fight between rocky and clubber lag was totally unbelievle, with rocky saying to him: hit me, hit me more, even your mom could hit me stronger, and lag hiting rocky with all his strenght and not beating him. It was stupid for me. For not mention the bad scripts and poor performances from the actors. And the strange thing that rocky in 3 and 4 looked smarter, and in 5 he was naivy and silly again, it was non sense for me. The first one is a great movie, the second one is good, but the rest are crap.
Alright. I've seen enough hating on "Rocky 4" and am convinced that no one sees what makes the movie so special.
IV has to be the greatest cinematical allegory in relation to the old War. Ever. In one corner, you've got the Average Joe in Rocky Balboa. A hard working, god fearing, red blooded American male from the streets of Philadelphia. In the other, Ivan Drago, the physical embodiment of Russia's capabilities in nuclear weapondry at the time.
Feeling an unrelenting sense of remorse for not stopping Creed vs Drago when he had the chance, Rocky felt as if he had no choice but to avenge his friends death, of course. In 4, Balboa has the absolute HARDEST training regimen in the entire Rocky series, in Siberia. Hinting again at the allegory, Drago played his training up to the media, lifted weights, used computers to clock his punches and speed, and all that crap, while Rocky secluded himself from the outside world, waded through knee deep snow, chased chickens, and got in shape the old fashioned way.
Then there is the fight where everyone was led to believe that Rocky's string of luck as the underdog was about to run out. Vitally renewed with the spirit of Apollo and a surge of passion and remorse, Rocky came back. Drago started doubting himself, and realized that Rocky was " a machine."
By Round 15, when the Russians were cheering his name, if you weren't close to being in tears, on the edge of your seat rooting for Rocky to pummel that commie bastard into the ground, I'd seriously question 2 things. Weither you have a heart or not, and if you consider yourself an American.
Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
Alright. I've seen enough hating on "Rocky 4" and am convinced that no one sees what makes the movie so special.IV has to be the greatest cinematical allegory in relation to the old War. Ever. In one corner, you've got the Average Joe in Rocky Balboa. A hard working, god fearing, red blooded American male from the streets of Philadelphia. In the other, Ivan Drago, the physical embodiment of Russia's capabilities in nuclear weapondry at the time.
Feeling an unrelenting sense of remorse for not stopping Creed vs Drago when he had the chance, Rocky felt as if he had no choice but to avenge his friends death, of course. In 4, Balboa has the absolute HARDEST training regimen in the entire Rocky series, in Siberia. Hinting again at the allegory, Drago played his training up to the media, lifted weights, used computers to clock his punches and speed, and all that crap, while Rocky secluded himself from the outside world, waded through knee deep snow, chased chickens, and got in shape the old Agafashioned way.
Then there is the fight where everyone was led to believe that Rocky's string of luck as the underdog was about to run out. Vitally renewed with the spirit of Apollo and a surge of passion and remorse, Rocky came back. Drago started doubting himself, and realized that Rocky was " a machine."
By Round 15, when the Russians were cheering his name, if you weren't close to being in tears, on the edge of your seat rooting for Rocky to pummel that commie bastard into the ground, I'd seriously question 2 things. Weither you have a heart or not, and if you consider yourself an American.
None of that training would have been enough to survie not have been killed from Dragos punches. 🙄 and actually your in the majority here on not seeing how god awful that film was,the worst of the 4,just read through the posts.
Originally posted by Mr Parker
None of that training would have been enough to survie not have been killed from Dragos punches. 🙄 and actually your in the majority here on not seeing how god awful that film was,the worst of the 4,just read through the posts.
Whhhat? That entire post made absolutely no sense. Besides, other peoples opinions don't mean anything to me if all they know how to do is say something "sucks" or is "cool".
Amongst "Rocky" fans, 4 is the most popular, and for good reason.
Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
Amongst "Rocky" fans, 4 is the most popular, and for good reason.
erm not this "Rocky" fan........Rocky 4 was stupid..........I mean really, can you see the Russians just switch over to cheering for Rocky that easliy? And what's with the sappy speech he gave at the end? I about barfed when he started in on that. While 4 had the BEST soundtrack, I myself thought they should have stopped after number 2. Number 3 was marginaly good, and the scene where Apollo and Rocky are jumping around hugging each other in the ocean was just silly. But I did really like the street fight at the end of Rocky 5.
Rocky 4 was the best as for reasons already pointed out...i hated 5 with a passion....tommy morrison sucks as an actor and so does don king but i did like it when rocky's kid got beat up....but i heard theres gonna be another rocky with vin diesel as rocky's opponent.......the movie already sucks ass
I love Rocky 4 mosly for reasons already pointed out specially by CinemmaAddiction and i think R3 and R4 are entirely different may look similar but they r different, In R3 Rocky had gone soft, only fighting low class boxers and parading for adds, comercials etc., he lost the edge and during his initial fight with Mr.T he was distracted, if he had been focused he wouldve won and also it was here that his friendship with Apollo took off now R4 is different since Drago at first is an invinsible opponent, then Apollo gets killed for being a show off(pretty much everyone has a friend like that that we eventually have to get out of trouble), gets killed for being stupid and Rocky feel responsible but he knows he cant just fight the guy, he now has to step up his game and find a way to beat this unbeatable guy. to me the whole friendship,training and beating the impossible is why made R4 a great movie!
Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
Whhhat? That entire post made absolutely no sense. Besides, other peoples opinions don't mean anything to me if all they know how to do is say something "sucks" or is "cool".Amongst "Rocky" fans, 4 is the most popular, and for good reason.
What I meant to say was all of that training of his he did in the russian mountains would not have been enough to survive any of those punches of Lungrens in real life,that in real life,no matter how much he trained,he also would have died if he had taken that kind of punishment as I pointed out in my original post. after all in the movie,they talked about how the normal heavy weight hits at about 75 rpg's while Lungrens character hit at 180 or around that,no way could rocky have lived through that,he would have died just like Apollo did.Like that one poster said,too bad Mr T did not kill Rocky in Rocky 3 so we could have been spared these god awful rocky 4 and rocky 5 movies.Rocky 5 I could at least tolerate because it was at least believable and that fight scene in the street was cool.oh well at least there are a few posters on here that agree with me that ROCKY 4 is by far the worst of the rocky movies.