Which sucked worse ROCKY 4 OR ROCKY 5?

Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
"Rocky 4" only won "Razzies" for worst actor, worst supporting actress, worst director, and worst musical score (which is bullshit because Bill Conti scored "Rocky", and it was an Oscar nominee)

Anycrap, these "Razzies" are about as worthless as the Oscars themselves, IMO. I think your devotion to bringing this film down is pathetic and waste of time.

Its pretty pathectic how you dont mind it when I praise the first 3 films which I have done a lot on this thread,yet when I criticise the fifth film,just because you agree that the fifth film was bad,you say nothing about me criticising that movie. 😛

Originally posted by Mr Parker
Its pretty pathectic how you dont mind it when I praise the first 3 films which I have done a lot on this thread,yet when I criticise the fifth film,just because you agree that the fifth film was bad,you say nothing about me criticising that movie. 😛

What you're meaning to say is that you find irony in the fact that I don't mind you praising the first 3 films, but when you criticize the 5th film, I don't blame you for doing so? Of course not. Why would I defy your negative opinion pertaining to a movie I myself dislike?

1) I haven't seen "Rocky 2" or "Rocky 3", so I can't express an opinion.

2) "Rocky 5" has no significance, political or cinematic.

So, having a positive opinion of a movie I like and a negative of one I don't, is pathetic?

V.

Hey Cinnemaddiction! My friend, Mr. Parker, is rather correct with whatever point he is trying to make so get over it!

He has no point, just an opinion, like me. The difference between us is that I have a basis for mine.

That said, there's nothing to get over, if there were, I already was.

Originally posted by Arahael
Hey Cinnemaddiction! My friend, Mr. Parker, is rather correct with whatever point he is trying to make so get over it!

I'm sorry, is there a reason you two are ganging up on him? Oh and by the way CD quit trying to act like you're above us.

"Ganging up"? 😱

Because two people disagree with someone else, we're ganging up on the cat? I don't think so.

Besides, isn't "whatever point" somewhat of an oxymoron? Kind of solidifies that you can find a point in his bumbling tirades, either. Unless, of course, you, too think that just because your black automatically entitles you to being an indestructible heavyweight boxing champion.

I'm not above anyone, or trying to be. Sorry if you see it that way.

It seems to me that you're not really listening to him just because you think he's right. What I'm saying is that he's made some valid points throughtout this entire thread, ya know for those of us who pay attention.

Originally posted by Arahael
It seems to me that you're not really listening to him just because you think he's right. What I'm saying is that he's made some valid points throughtout this entire thread, ya know for those of us who pay attention.

Eh, well, point 'em out. But please, PLEASE spare me any crap about thing being "unrealistic", because aside from being nothing but an opinion, it's a movie. Don't bring up the race card, either.

What the hell are you talking about with the "unrealistic" crap and race card. I don't recall saying anything about either of those subjects. 😕

I'm asking you to find Mr. Parkers points, and leave out anything he had to say about the movies being "unrealistic", as well as anything pertaining to race, as both examples are totally irrelevant to the movie.

Then, you're probably left with nothing, but if you can show me any point he has made, or tried to get at, I'd gladly debate it.

Why the hell is this thread still going? Who cares what was worse,Rocky 4 or 5? They were both pointless sequels to a rather poor series that should have ended after the first film. It's not worth all this pointless debate and boohooing.

This thread is still going because some people can't accept the opinions of others when they conflict with their own. This started out as just a poll. Not everybody agrees with you all of the time CD, so deal with it for Christ's sake. The reason I'm defending Parker like this is because I do support him and he's my friend.

Originally posted by BackFire
Why the hell is this thread still going?

I'm bored, and I like "Rocky 4". That's my excuse. 😄

Originally posted by Arahael
This thread is still going because some people can't accept the opinions of others when they conflict with their own. This started out as just a poll.

It's not people's opinions I can't accept, it's people's stupid reasoning. I think I'm allergic. 😕

Not everybody agrees with you all of the time CD, so deal with it for Christ's sake. The reason I'm defending Parker like this is because I do support him and he's my friend.

Oh, I'm aware not everyone agrees with me. I don't expect much out of anyone on these boards, that way, I'm never disappointed. As an aside, you call what you are doing "defending"? Set down the pom-poms and show me what point he was trying to make, and like I said, I'll gladly drop the whole stupid thing.

You'll be doing both of us, as well as Parker, a big, big favor.

So if everybody is done thinking they can screw with me, I'll be leaving for a while.

Me-ow.

Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
He has no point, just an opinion, like me. The difference between us is that I have a basis for mine.

That said, there's nothing to get over, if there were, I already was.

your the one who has no basis not me,to say rocky 4-the one that had absolutely no believeability or realsiem in it unlike the first 3 rocky films and the only awards it won was razzle awards is the best rocky movie is laughable and absurd. 😆 as far as stupid reasoning, look no further than your points you made on why 4 is the best. 😛 by the way,you know what? every encounter I have had with you on a film,YOU are the one with no reasoning behind your points,so meet my ignore list. 😛

Originally posted by BackFire
Why the hell is this thread still going? Who cares what was worse,Rocky 4 or 5? They were both pointless sequels to a rather poor series that should have ended after the first film. It's not worth all this pointless debate and boohooing.

Yeah they were both pointless sequels to a movie that i would not have minded if they had ended it after the original rocky but for sure SHOULD have ended at least after the third and should not have been more than a trilogy.Needless to say this discussion will probably no longer continue since I have now put CINEMADDICTION on my ignore list since he obviously cant stand to see a movie put down that he likes.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
your the one who has no basis not me,to say rocky 4-the one that had absolutely no believeability or realsiem in it unlike the first 3 rocky films and the only awards it won was razzle awards is the best rocky movie is laughable and absurd. 😆 as far as stupid reasoning, look no further than your points you made on why 4 is the best. 😛 by the way,you know what? every encounter I have had with you on a film,YOU are the one with no reasoning behind your points,so meet my ignore list. 😛

For those of you following the thread, that aren't cowards, see basis in my opinion, and don't get miffed when I out their ludicrous reasoning, my basis, again was soley in the Cold War allegory of "Rocky 4". It was a fun gimmick, and it featured some of the best training montages, as well as villians in the entire franchise. That's a common opinion amongst fans of the franchise, and the poll is a reflection of that.

Good to know that a lack of "realsiem" and the "fact"
that a white man can't knock out a black man is a better basis than that of a movie featuring a unique allegory, storied villains, and a message that was realized only 4 years after the movie with the end of the Cold War and subsequent fall of the Berlin Wall and U.S.S.R.

Besides, your "Razzie" arguement would hold water, had the movie "won" Worst Picture, which it didn't.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
Yeah they were both pointless sequels to a movie that i would not have minded if they had ended it after the original rocky but for sure SHOULD have ended at least after the third and should not have been more than a trilogy.Needless to say this discussion will probably no longer continue since I have now put CINEMADDICTION on my ignore list since he obviously cant stand to see a movie put down that he likes.

Oh, I can stand to see it put down. Apparently it's you that can;t see your "basis" put down.

By the way, don't you think if Apollo Creed and Rocky were friends, some of his "blackness" would have worn off on him, thus making him a better fighter, subsequently raising the all important "realism" in the movie?

I mean, otherwise, white guys can't beat black men or Russians, right? 😕