Originally posted by Mr Parker
What I meant to say..
That was quite possible the world's longest run on sentence ever. Keep in mind, it's only a movie. Besides, who are you, or any of use, to say who can survive what?
Dislike the movie, but just because things are presented in a credible manner doesn't mean it's a failure. If that were true. what purpose entertainment purpose would movies serve, with their subject matter relying on only credibility and realism?
I reallly think that the only believle rocky movies are the first two. I was more on a realistic tone , but 3 , 4 and 5 were just so stupid and incredible. I havent no problem with fantasy, i have no problem with luke skywalker beating darth vader when vader is much more powerful, and i have not problem with indy geting the holy grial with those unssupassed proofs.Because it was told in a very good way and was good and well scripted. But the last three rocky movies were annoying, awful and totally incredible. Not only that rocky never could have beated crubber lag, ivan drago and tommy gun. it was told in an awful way and poor scripts.The last three movies sucked in the same way.
Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
That was quite possible the world's longest run on sentence ever. Keep in mind, it's only a movie. Besides, who are you, or any of use, to say who can survive what?Dislike the movie, but just because things are presented in a credible manner doesn't mean it's a failure. If that were true. what purpose entertainment purpose would movies serve, with their subject matter relying on only credibility and realism?
I tried to spell it out in my original post WHY in real life he never would have survived those punches. 🙄 Credible manner? Rocky 5 was hardly presented in a credible manner. 🙄
Originally posted by Mr Parker
I tried to spell it out in my original post WHY in real life he never would have survived those punches. 🙄
How about a few more sets of rolleyes?
Anycrap, this is how you "tried to spell it out" in the original post.
Then after a russian fighter beats up and kills a black guy,we are somehow expected to believe that a white fighter-who 95% of the time loses against a black fighter, somehow is able to sustain the blows to him that Apollo Creed,a black fighter could not sustain and died from.yeah right. In real life,Stallone would have died in a fight with Dolph Lungren because I read somewhere a few years ago while filming Rocky 5 that Dolph Lungren punched into Stallones shoulder by accident and sly needed medical attention because his shoulder got dislocated.
You're breaking it down by race, which is pathetic. What if white guys had been cast in those roles? Same damn thing, probably. Keep in mind the only reason Apollo died was because nobody threw in the towel. It was all for dramatic effect, anyway. In real life, nothing in the "Rocky" sequels would likely ever happen. I could trip on a rock and dislocate my shoulder, it happens all the time and competent trainers can pop it right back in place.
Just keep telling yourself, it's just a movie.
Hey I like for there to be a sense of realisem and believeability in a movie which is what I got with the first 3 rocky films although I can understand why Bakerboy did not care for the third one either because thats when it started going a little too far with the believeability factor.To believe that Stallone would have been able to walk away from Hulk Hogan unscathed like he did after that wrestling match and be able to climb back into the ring as quickly as he did was stretching the believeability factor.He would have been in the hospital for weeks after that in real life and its funny that after the police tried to arrest Hulk Hogan that all of a sudden after being thrown around by him that at the end they changed their minds about arresting him,that he was not arrested after all that, that was the one thing in Rocky 3 that I did not like and thought was absurd but that didnt ruin the movie for me.
The believeability factor in 4 was even more laughable and got to where it was too absurd to enjoy anymore,thats why I agree with that one poster that said too bad that MR T did not kill Rocky in Rocky 3 so we could have been spared those last two god awful films. .5 was more realisitic and a little more believeable which is why I dont despise that one as much as 4.5 was especially believeable in the beginning when it showed Rocky trembling uncontrollably from the beating he took from Lungren.I'll say it one last time,that is just absurd to believe that he would not have died in those beatings he took from Lungren.Again I tried to point out in my first post how in real life Stallone would NEVER would have lived through those punches that he took from Lungren but I can see that you choose to ignore those points.
Originally posted by Mr Parker
The believeability factor in 4 was even more laughable and got to where it was too absurd to enjoy anymore,thats why I agree with that one poster that said too bad that MR T did not kill Rocky in Rocky 3 so we could have been spared those last two god awful films. .5 was more realisitic and a little more believeable which is why I dont despise that one as much as 4.5 was especially believeable in the beginning when it showed Rocky trembling uncontrollably from the beating he took from Lungren.I'll say it one last time,that is just absurd to believe that he would not have died in those beatings he took from Lungren.Again I tried to point out in my first post how in real life Stallone would NEVER would have lived through those punches that he took from Lungren but I can see that you choose to ignore those points.
Its a movie 😐 isnt real life 😛
Most movies today arent high on realism 😬 but you hate em for it.Find something else to complain about in Rocky 4 besides your believability factor 😬
Rocky 3 was shown last night and during the commercials they interview people that were involved in the movie as well as other celebritys and they interviewed Evander Holyfield and he brought up an interesting point that I always thought about because it was one of the reasons I really enjoyed Rocky 3 was Holyfield said of all the Rockys he liked Rocky 3 the best because it was the one that was the most like real life in the fact that once you get get on top like Rocky was,you lose your edge and become soft because everybody wants to market you -which is what they did with Rocky in the movie and because of the fact you have become soft,you stop training as hard as you did when you first came up and there is always someone else out there working their tail off trying to make it to the top and they always come along and knock you off the top pedastal.
Thats why I always enjoyed Rocky 3 so much was because even before holyfield talked about all that,I always noticed how after Rocky became successful that even his wife who originally was very shy and never spoke to people,she became outgoing and was living high and mighty dressed up in nice fancy clothes when she went to all of rockys fights and it also reminded me of how Mike Tyson got too cocky and stopped training as hard as he did later on in years after so many victorys and lost his edge as well.I remember seeing him in a lot of commercials on tv after he became successful and once he started doing that,like Hollyfied said,he got soft and lost his edge and thats why he lost to Buster Douglas in an upset that shocked the world because Douglas was an unknown and hungry for the title unlike Tyson and then when Douglas won the belt from Tyson,the same exact same thing happened to Douglas,he got fat and out of shape and lost his edge and was 20 pounds overweight when he defended his title against Holyfield and then also eventually lost the title. 🙂
Needless to say I will not be watching Rocky 4 or 5 this month when they show them the next following sundays.
Originally posted by Major Knight
all i no is i hated most of the rocky movies other then the first one. i say the first is the best but the fith is the worst becuase it was just the same thing shown for the fith time.
The reason I didnt like the first as much as the 4th is because Rocky lost 🙁.I wanted to see him win.
The second I didnt like just because of Apollo Creed I really didnt like him and think they shouldnt have made a 2nd movie pertaining to there fight.
The 3rd was ok
Im agree with mr Parker here. That Hulk Hogan stuff was really incredible. And i dont know how somebody could say that the best one is the 4th? The first rocky is the best movie by far, to say that the 4 is better than the 1 is clearly laughable. Rocky one gets several oscars and nominations. Rocky 4 was only nominated in the razzies. It sounds like a joke.
Originally posted by Mr Parker
ha ha good one Bakerboy.I think its also funny so many people think Rocky 4 is the best one when the only kind of awards that movie won was Razzle awards,a sign of a bad movie. 😄
"Rocky 4" only won "Razzies" for worst actor, worst supporting actress, worst director, and worst musical score (which is bullshit because Bill Conti scored "Rocky", and it was an Oscar nominee)
Anycrap, these "Razzies" are about as worthless as the Oscars themselves, IMO. I think your devotion to bringing this film down is pathetic and waste of time.