Does Dooku Want to be Killed?

Originally posted by Darth Cain
Maybe that was one of Dooku's favorite tactics and he taught it to Qui-Gon, who taught Obi-Wan, but Anakin gets it wrong by doing it to his own son.

Hehehe....DC.....'Poor Luke'

That should be a thread- unintentionally funny things in Star Wars.
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ANYWAY...stay on target 😛

Originally posted by Darth Cain
I've convinced myself that Dooku was given orders NOT to kill Anakin. How he would interpret that, I don't know. Did Sidious say "I don't care if you maim your replacement, just don't kill him"? We may never know....

well, maybe for the sith, its just tough love 😄

but seriously, vader proved that until you are actually dead, you always have the potential to be all-powerful, regardless of what is hacked off of you, besides your head of coarse.

to me dooku seemed regretful that he had to cut anakins arm off...not that that i think he felt guilty, since hes evil... just more like "damn how am i going to explain this to sidious...i damaged his prodigy"

Maybe you're right PVS. Dooku had to hope the war started or he was in trouble.

yeah...i can see a cut scene from ep2:

dooku: the force is with us master sidious, the war has begun

sidious: welcome lord tyrannus...you have done well...everything is going as planned

dooku: oh..um....by the way, i was able to keep master anakin alive..

sidious: excellent lord tyrannus, just as i commanded.

dooku: yeah...right...but um...i had to um *cough*cuthisarmoff*cough*

sidious: i didnt quite catch that...say that again...

dooku: oh its no biggie...he attacked me so i had to cut his arm off...but he's ok, so dont worry abou----*slap*

(sidious imediately gives dooku a barage of b**** slaps....cut to next scene)

Maybe you should write the novelization of the movie, PVS. You're insight serves you well.

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you know I'm thinking Dooku might have wanted to keep Obi-Wan alive too- Look at how he put Obi-Wan out of the fight. He only burns him enough to put him down, but a master like him could've flicked his wrist a bit more and Ben would've had something in common with Maul...sorta. I wonder if Dooku was wanting to keep Ben on the backburner in case Anakin failed and/or if Palpatine betrayed Dooku later on....The idea of Dooku being serious when asking Obi-Wan to join him is sounding more believable to me, Dooku might've wanted to try and overthrow Palpatine with Obi-Wan...the Sith can't even trust one another aftter all...

i think dooku intended to kill obiwan.
i agree though, i think he wanted him to join when kenobi was captured,
but he was going to cut kenobi down after their duel.

it does look like dooku's going in for the kill on obi wan at the end of their duel....

only other explanation is that he knew anakin would step in, and was one step ahead the whole way on the manipulation front, but i don't buy that....

looks like he was going to off him to me....

There's more to Dooku's motives than we know.....

Originally posted by guiro72
it does look like dooku's going in for the kill on obi wan at the end of their duel....

only other explanation is that he knew anakin would step in, and was one step ahead the whole way on the manipulation front, but i don't buy that....

looks like he was going to off him to me....

yes, and that is a question no one can answer i guess.
see, he twirls his saber before going for the final blow.
some may say he was hesitating, waiting for anakin.
i say its just for theatrics, since its all about making us the audience
go "ooooh aaaaah".

so who knows about that.
not that i defeat my own arguement, but i think that issue may have a bit of room for debate.

Maybe Dooku has a terminal disease and is bitter towards the Jedi and the galaxy, and this is his way of getting back at them?
Just a crazy thought.

i agree pvs, i hope there's more detail on this in ep III....he looks like he's gonna kill obi wan in the duel, there's a good chance he's been told to spare anakin.....when you add in the interrogation when he invites obi wan to join him, and then tells him the TRUTH about the whole plot....and the "don't be so sure about qui gon" line....plus if he's interested in power, being the leader of a phoney war with a use by date, how much power is there in that?.....it's all most interesting...

yeah, he's kind of a puppet ruler...im sure he would desire more

I think Ush had an interesting theory on that. Did he tell it here already? It may have had to do with the difference between the Living Force and the Unifying Force. That Dooku and QGJ were more the Living Force and the Council more on the Unifying Force. That the Lost twelve may have separated because of this difference, hence Dooku's grudge against the Jedi.

Wasn't there a bacjstory briefly explained in a cut scene from the AOTC librabry scene where the lady talks to OB1 about Dooku. It's certainly in the book, but I can't remember exactly what was being said apart from Dooku being one of the lost twelve.

it would be nice if GL put that scene back in the damn film.
or at least as a cut scene on the dvd.
god forbid we should have some answered questions.

editor: should we keep it george?

GL: no no no, that would answer questions...we cant have that *snip*

I didin't get why they didn't put that on the DVD either. I was expecting that one to be in. Then again, GL is going to be changing these films until Kingdom come, so who knows what the future brings.

i bet he will be changing the films until the day he dies.
so lets just hope he never gets alzheimer's, or we are all in trouble

perhaps it gave TOO MUCH away, and would have spoiled ep III.....i've read something similar to this unifying vs living force theory somewhere else, but i can't remember where or just how similar it was.....it was tied in with the midichlorian thing somehow, i think....why the hell did he put this stuff in if there was no point to be made about it further down the track?....(actually, it might have even been official)....