What will vader think

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anakin won't care where yoda is cuz yoda's a short green dude. and OB1 went into hiding, so anakin isn't too fearful of him. anakin shouldn't care where they r.

That's how I took it. What advantage would they have hunting down Yoda and Obi-Wan if the two of them are hiding? They have bigger things to worry about then that.

anakin won't care where yoda is cuz yoda's a short green dude. and OB1 went into hiding, so anakin isn't too fearful of him. anakin shouldn't care where they r.
oh really, if he had known they were still around he would have turned the universe upside down to find them. jedi master strong with the force could tip everything in the favor of the rebellion, and they kind of did that too. If Vader had known they were alive he and the Emperor had been certain that Obi and Yoda indeed was a treath to them

OK Watched ANH last night and here is what I came up with:
Vader tells Tarkin "Obi Wan is aboard"
Tarken replies "Surley he must be dead by now"
Vader say "I must face him Alone"

That implies that Tarkin and Vader know that Obi Wan is alive.

Something else interesting is at the end in the trench before Solo comes in Vader is pursuing Luke, he says "The force is strong with this one" He knows the person in the cockpit is using the force before he even meets skywalker.

Another interesting quote was when leia is rescued and Luke introduces himself, He says IKm Luke Skywalker. She replies "Who?" as if she is totally unaware of the skywalker name.

i remember something about yoda in regards to rotj....it was either in the novelisation, or a cut piece of dialogue from the film....but basically palpatine reads in luke's mind that yoda is still alive, the same way that vader reads into luke having a sister....it was very similar to the vader/sister scene, it may have been replaced by it......

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ALso I read somewhere that he will know Padme had twins, but not sure.
cowboyography

i was under the impression that anakin only thought there was one child, but i can't back that up.....

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Yoda and Obi-Wan found themselves in the classical Sith role "always two there are...no more no less..." .......
ken benobi

actually, quite a few people have speculated that this is what was meant by "bringing balance to the force".....the idea goes back years....

someone on another thread speculated that yoda would fall, much like luke in esb landing on that upside down weathervane/crucifix thing under cloud city......and that this is where bail rescues him from in the red speeder we've all seen.....i think this was just speculation, and wish i could credit the person who mentioned it, but it makes perfect sense to me, and explains why the sith unquestionably believe yoda dead....

Another interesting quote was when leia is rescued and Luke introduces himself, He says IKm Luke Skywalker. She replies "Who?" as if she is totally unaware of the skywalker name
why should she have any knowledge of the Skywalker name.
I think the reason why shes says who is because Luke talks real fast and is overly eager so his words aint all that clear.

Yeah, there was never really any indication that Leia should have knowledge of that name.

I guess not, but that means its not common knowledge who Vader is.

I dont think anyone knows Vaders true identity besides The Emperor, Obi Wan and Yoda...........and of course Vader himself🙄

So yes Vaders identity is not common knowledge if it had been Luke would have known about his father true idntity and fate long before he did

that makes sense to me.

yoda hides on dagobah a planet renowned for its dark force aura(remember the cave from esb) so i belive his presence is covered by the dark side of the force making him invisible to the force where as ob1 hides on tattoine to overview luke growing up and eventual rise to jedi knight a prophecy which i don't believe was stopped because palps needed luke to over throw vader and take his place at the emporers side which is why i believe ob1 wasn't hunted just lured

Now how all of this will play out is difficult to tell....
Palpatine and Vader know Obi Wan is alive.....
[they are not sure where, but they know he trains luke
and believe he continues to train luke thru the force;
go back to ANH/ESB if u have forgotten]

Yoda is a wild card....they probably are not 100% sure
he is alive or dead because of something that will happen
in ROTS.....
Yoda must have some spectacular escape or something...

I am sure that if Palpatine was aware of Yoda being alive at
the same time Luke was being trained by Obi Wan; a massive
search would've been initiated...

But Palpatine was over confident in Luke's abilities and felt both
he and Vader could cause Luke to become one with the Darkside...

Palpatine is not really aware of Luke's presence until ESB and Palpatine and Vader are not aware of Leia [go back to ROTJ]....

LUCAS wasn't aware of leia 'til rotj....

you might be interested in this information, bail apparently rescues yoda in the speeder post duel, someone has speculated on a scene reminiscent of esb with luke hanging under bespin. sounded really plausible to me.....

if they screw with Yoda, I will be pi$$ed....
if Yoda was so easy to pick off and Palpatine
was so powerful, then he would've been more
then capable by now....

Yoda's fight has to be a ploy for Padme and the twins.....

Yoda has always been able to see the bigger picture;
that is what he was trying to explain to Luke in ESB....

and the Lucas/leia bit is just funny.....Guiro good one....

Interesting info guiro.

cheers all....

kadub, i guess it's possible the yoda/palpatine duel is some kind of planned distraction, but obi wan, anakin and padme are long gone....until i hear more, i'm assuming it's just a long, exhausting fight, where yoda (eventually, after kicking much ass) loses, or retreats (out the window)....then he and bail fly to mustafar to pick up obi and padme in the tantive (probably).....

i have also heard that he is the cause of palpatine's limp and/or facial disfigurement....but i can't back that up....

Guiro,

I have heard the same about Yoda....
I just have a problem with people thinking
Palpatine is all powerful.....

Just as Palpatine hid from the Jedi for all those years;
Yoda did the same to the Empire....

I just believe that Yoda can see the bigger picture, for
the prophecy to come true....

in full agreement kadub.....with only 2 jedi left they would be crazy to risk their lives in a vain attempt as well.....

then the jedi would definitely be finito, no second chances....

i don't think a tactical retreat should necessarily be considered "weak", yoda is a thinker before he's a fighter....

Obi-Wan is assumed dead judging from Tarkin's remark and I'm sure the same is true with Yoda. Especially if the rumors of him disfiguring Palpatine and being injured by him in return are true at all. Either way, you've got to remember that Yoda went to a planet that is literally crawling with life forms, so no one is going to detect him (with the Force or scanners). That bit about the cave was the invention of one of the EU authors, maybe Zahn.

agreed cain, just to clarify: obi wan is not assumed dead at the end of ep III, but yoda is....they assume obi wan must have died in the interim.....

don't know if this is true, but this is how it seems to me at this point...