What will vader think

Yeah, maybe in that scene Vader is thinking to himself "geez, I had one of them right in front of me!"
So far, the best thing about this new trilogy has been the info that gives us a glimpse into Vader's thoughts. I'm sure that's part of the point, but still.
I had always wondered what might be going through Vader's mind when he watches Luke get zapped. With these movies, I have several ideas. Its great discussing these things and not fearing the nerd label.
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well I find it interesting....that Anakin's life is so messed up. So much crud happens to him, yet he has a good side to him. And Palpatine has all these evil plans for him, of which most succeed. But here's the kicker for me. It's as if one of the dark side's triumphs so to speak is in gloating over how Anakin has been turned over, given in to his anger and hatred, and how he supposedly can't be saved. And when it comes down to it, the dark side is evil, full of hatred, you can see what and who the emperor really is when he zaps Luke. Anyway, whatever benefits there were to to the dark side, they came to a fizzle when Palpatine fried Luke. Way to go emperor, lol, Vader loves his son after all.....chosen one under his nose the whole time....

Not that an up-and-coming Sith like me has ever been called that.......

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it's like no matter how hard Palpatine schemed over all those years, he actually ends up fulfilling the chosen one prophecy by having Vader near him lol and he couldn't "see" it

Originally posted by Darth Cain
Not that an up-and-coming Sith like me has ever been called that.......

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Heck, even Luke knew that overconfidence was Palpatine's weakness. That's one of the best exchanges of dialogue in that movie, by the way. But, its easy to be too confident in yourself if you're him. Y'know he just remade the galaxy in his image is all......

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I think in another thread someone said that the weaknesses of the jedi and sith were very similar, and I am thinking they refer to the jedi from Episode II, who were pretty much blind. If you think about it, it is pride that blinds all of them every time. Maul was gloating over his victory when Obi-Wan leaped up and had Maul beside himself. And actually, I think the very way Obi-Wan found himself hanging there was pride blinded him while he was fighting Maul. And Palpatine was blind in his pride, and didn't even see Vader coming behind him....

Who ever that was made a very good point. I just pictured a shark and the jaws music when you said he didn't see Vader coming, don't know why.

Anyway, who knew that good old non-Force having Han Solo had the best advice when he said: "Don't get cocky".

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yeah... perhaps the Jedi Council should've emphasized the "Pride leads to a fall" program more than the "Fear leads to Anger" program 😆

Vader/Jaws thing...yeah I could see it...kinda scary....you know same guy too John Williams did both scores...

You're right. For some reason I just had this image of Vader moving in real slow before he grabbed the Emperor and chucked him down that shaft. I must be tired.....

You're right about the curriculum, too. Forgot to agree there.

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Vader's thoughts are all over the place in the OT,
first he finds out that ObiWan is back, then dead..
Then there is another force user, and DANG! I had
him [oops, my son]....
Then, he fights Luke and Luke denies him.....
Then he finds out about Leia but Luke is trying
to take him out; then he has to be saying to himself somewhere

"I had Luke/Leia in my grasp and I let them get away..."

"Oh, by the way.....those look like my droids"

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Good points, Master Kadub. Its almost like the point of these new movies has been to let us what was in Vader's mind in the old ones....

that's always been my secret to enjoying the prequels.....they can be a complete load of bollocks, as long as they add depth to my appreciation of the originals....

the points stated above are all good to me....

an additional thought on the kenobi/maul duel.....obi wan fell because he was using anger and tapping darkside energy, leaving his concentration off-balance, when he was hanging he had time to compose himself, and then could finish the job....

Guiro,

Good point......but the duel with Maul made ObiWan a great Jedi;
not average.....he learned to deal with his emotions and the darkside...
which i am sure is what helps him to deal with Anakin and Palpatine in
ROTS.....

Obi became a better Jedi because he learned when to keep his focus on the current moment, like Qui-Gon told him.

i still think it's technically the best duel in the saga....
didn't mean to imply obi wan did badly at all....
ken benobi's post gave me the thought that maybe obi wan ended up hanging in the pit because at that point he wanted revenge for the death of jinn....and was fighting with anger....just for those few brief moments....

it had just never occurred to me before.....wondered what other people thought....should have put a question mark....

i don't think i said he was only average as a jedi....

MAybe... he looked more struck by the loss and the shitty situation he was in. Was it anger? Dunno.... He didn't particularly fight as if he was furious, he looked very much in control.

i assume your talking about TFM duel.

obiwan was struggling to control his anger.
you could see the way he looked at maul "you son of a b****"
during the duel, he stayed in control though...until the last strike,
he is consumed by anger, clouding his mind, giving maul an opening.

then the force push

just slo-mo on the dvd, and tell me you dont see the burning anger in obiwan's face.