Originally posted by Koto K
Grey Fox, I think you should familiarize yourself with what is known as a 'Mary Sue' fanfic before deciding to put yourself in a known comic continuum/universe.
oooh nice avatar and sig Koto. reminds me of biscut dough hands man...
hey everyone, why dont you all check out the symbiote pic thread? it has an interesting conversation occuring. and your pics will pump new blood into it
aww come on kotto this is my shining moment i am trying to live up to my fanfiction net idol classic cowboy the guy who has the most fanfics and does the best crossovers ever plus there is tragedy in the stories i mean robin was n love with a lesbian so basically his heart shatters but I'm thinking i might get him and jinx together
also i need a male from this site as well to be the big evil dude for my third fanfic I'm thinking nataku he would work well he has good humour the name works well and i think the powers that i will give him (mortal with hyper sense and can eat souls who destroys the dimension of each planet he was sucking souls form
OFFICIAL i have made the team listing
good guys
THE ORDER: fever red, rayne, raziel, kaine, buffy lilo and stitch (i know the last one sounds kiddy but there is point in this she is 18 and was turned she is now Gothic while stitch or 626 as everyone knows him is now quite tall and stronger )
TEEN TITANS : robin ,starfire, raven, beastboy, cyborg, terra, (the rest are new to the titans because they are added on in the second fic) darthjag, jinx (possibly)
AND THE TITANS ADULT GUARDIANS (i always thought the titans should have the odd guardian like in the comics) Freddy Krueger (who is only there because darthajg has allowed him to stay when Freddy wants to kill he can go back to his world so in a way he is a good guy/bad guy)
future raven ( from how long is forever she is only staying because of her boyfriend who is also a guardian) D (the vampire hunter who is a dunpeil is future ravens boyfriend although his symbiote can be a pain in the ass sometimes )
BAD GUYS
nataku : evil soul sucking mortal with hyper senses (eg sight smell hearing ) and dimension swapping powers , once he has gorged himself on one dimensions populace he will release all the energy that the souls contain destroying that dimension before moving onto another enjoys destruction (fyi :can use the soul energy to create energy blasts but that would make him yearn for more souls therefore he would need to eat more souls before he could destroy the dimension)
sidderz : a author who enjoys tormenting overs likes games and watching television or to be more exact dimensionvision he watches people lives for fun has a grudge against darthjag for being mean to him in the first grade which has evidently scarred him for life last seen promising never to return to the Titans dimension but as we all know promises can be broken .....
what do you think good, bad
Two cents from a guy who has been writing fanfiction for nearly 12-years- Crossovers with characters from more than two franchises is a recipe for disaster.
From a writers standpoint, let me explain why: Too many characters equals too much confusion. The average reader generally can only stay focused and interested in stories that focus on one maybe two main characters. You're going to lose A LOT of cohesion if you focus on too many characters (each of whom a main character in their own right). Also, unless you are very familiar with all of the characters, know them inside and outside, it's not a good idea to put them in a story out-of-character. I mean, Freddy Kruger as a good guy? Please. You're going to have a lot of people hating your story for stuff like that.
My own personal standpoint- I hate inter-franchise crossovers, period. If you want to show some real creativity, come up with your own ORIGINAL characters, and think of interesting ways of having them interact with canon characters.
There's a right way to do fanfiction, and there's a wrong way. And I don't mean to sound insulting Fox, but you're doing it the wrong way as it stands.
Originally posted by grey fox
good guys
THE ORDER: fever red, rayne, raziel, kaine, buffy lilo and stitch (i know the last one sounds kiddy but there is point in this she is 18 and was turned she is now Gothic while stitch or 626 as everyone knows him is now quite tall and stronger )
TEEN TITANS : robin ,starfire, raven, beastboy, cyborg, terra, (the rest are new to the titans because they are added on in the second fic) darthjag, jinx (possibly)
AND THE TITANS ADULT GUARDIANS (i always thought the titans should have the odd guardian like in the comics) Freddy Krueger (who is only there because darthajg has allowed him to stay when Freddy wants to kill he can go back to his world so in a way he is a good guy/bad guy)
future raven ( from how long is forever she is only staying because of her boyfriend who is also a guardian) D (the vampire hunter who is a dunpeil is future ravens boyfriend although his symbiote can be a pain in the ass sometimes )
BAD GUYS
nataku : evil soul sucking mortal with hyper senses (eg sight smell hearing ) and dimension swapping powers , once he has gorged himself on one dimensions populace he will release all the energy that the souls contain destroying that dimension before moving onto another enjoys destruction (fyi :can use the soul energy to create energy blasts but that would make him yearn for more souls therefore he would need to eat more souls before he could destroy the dimension)
sidderz : a author who enjoys tormenting overs likes games and watching television or to be more exact dimensionvision he watches people lives for fun has a grudge against darthjag for being mean to him in the first grade which has evidently scarred him for life last seen promising never to return to the Titans dimension but as we all know promises can be broken .....
Okay Grey Fox, I hope you've learned your lesson. Now let's never mention this again.
fgjzstrkljq....Getting....angry......I...am..thinking..of Milk...red..wait..Redbull...and now ..I am ..thinking about...kittens....kittens...covered in spikes............that MAKES ME ANGRY GRAAAAAAA!!!
*ENTER ANGRY DESTRUCTIVE/The anti-flag mode*
POSTERS OF IRRLEVANT-NESS
YOUR TOAST IS BURNT, AND NO AMOUNT OF SCRAPING SHALL REMOVE THE BLACKNESS!!
I SHALL EAT YOUR UNHAPPINESS!!
ALL OF THIS CONFUSING CROSS-OVERS IS HURTING MY HEAD!!
STOP POSTING IRRELEVANT NON SPIDEY/SYM RELATED FANFICTION >_< GRAAAAAAA
*ANGRY DESTRUCTO BIRD*
SOON ALL WHO DEFY ME SHALL TaSTE OBLIVION MWAHAHAHA..which taste like red bull...WHICH TASTE DISGUSTING!!
MWAHAHHA THE UNIVERSE SHALL BE MINE!! FEAR ME IRRELEVANT POSTERS..THE END IS NIGH!!
*powering down*
wha?...where am I..and why does my throat hurt?.....
uh Fox, I will allow a little more fanfiction in this thread, but you gotta take it elsewhere after this next fic post. It's clogging this thread(almost as much as my anger rants.). I mean, the spiderman Forum already has one of the highest closed thread counts on the site, lets not contribute to it.
ok in answer to all this crazy shit IT BURNS koto i know you're a decent writer and all but i have low self esteem and confidence and you really aint helping so be a little nicer i know my writing sucks but im a frigging fourteen year old i am trying my goddamn best here and lets not forget you aren't the one Reading it the nes who are Reading it are the slack jawed locals of f.f net ok i will shorten the list down though ma by making the order only 3 members taking Freddy out of the equation (he is only i9n the first two fics because darthjag has connections) keeping future Raven and d together but them only showing in one chapter just to check up on the Titans they will have cyborg with them because he is always the odd guy out
nataku you dotn want to be in it ok but can i use the name nataku it sounds cool and gives it a nice edge
and robo i will try to keep my fanfictionage to the lowest point i can now to end my post on a high note
LETS ROCK
I am so alike you
In so many ways
I know I’m just a copy
That carries on the strain
But, we make the same mistakes
‘Cause, we are one and the same
We leave behind the stain
That will never separate
All the lies in me
All that dies in me
How can I live without you?
All that lies in me
All that dies in me
How can I live without you?
I am your mirror image
I’m all you left behind
You made me what I am
But who the hell am I?
But, we make the same mistakes
‘Cause, we are one and the same
We leave behind the stain
That will never separate
All the lies in me
All that dies in me
How can I live without you?
All that lies in me
All that dies in me
How can I live without you?
We’ve made the same mistakes
We are one and the same
How can I live
Do you think of me?
Do you dream of me?
I always dream about you
Do you think of me?
Do you dream of me?
I always dream about you
Errr...spazzage.
grey fox, you've got to learn to take a little constructive criticism. I'm only a little older than you and I criticize the hell out of my writing whenever I revise it. I'll type it up, print out a nice, double-spaced copy and completely massacre the little bastard for sucking.
And, if you actually want us to read your stuff, clean up your grammar! There's nothing worse than reading a mess of a paper that gives me a headache because it is so sloppy. Seriously, I nearly had a breakdown when reading this girl's analysis of an excerpt of Dandelion Wine and she wrote the title (repeatedly) as "dandillion wine".
Edited-afterthought: I haven't really read any of your writing, but let me give you a couple tips, fox.
1. The entire story cannot be pure action. Yes, it's fun to write combat scenes with the slashing and kicking and energy blasting, but guess what? You need a plot. And not the shitty plot I always see in fantasy stories--liek omg tihs ultmate evil sumhow got ahold of tihs 1 artefact tihng and now hes gonna destroy teh world!!!!!1111111111111!!!!!!!!!1111111!!!!.....one. Think of something good.
2. Your fanfic needs to have an ending. None of this on-and-on-and-on crap (my mind flickers over the thought of never-ending D&D campaigns). You need to have the plot reach an endpoint and then start something else. And it can't be OMG TEH BAD GUY GOT RESURECTED INTO A NEW FORM AND NOW WE AHVE TO STOP HIM AGIN!!!!!!!1111111111!!!!!!!11111111111 like in so many animés.
3. I don't mean to sound insulting here, but I am assuming you are a novice writer. This means you are making several of the following mistakes. I am going to copy-paste a little something that I wrote on my website, so this is going to be a little long...
/rant on My Creative Writing class is slowly pushing me to the edge of my sanity.You see, there's this one particular individual who always asks me to look over his writing and make suggestions about it. Normally, I don't mind this kind of thing (he even asks me to be sadistic to him about his paper). However, when this happens day after day after day, my ability to function wears thin. Especially when the writing hurts my head. The kid isn't a particularly bad writer; he just makes the same mistakes over and over. AND OVER. (This next part will be easier for those of you familiar with a foreign language.) Said individual will constantly make eight mistakes in his writing no matter how often I badger him about changing them.
1. The overuse of the verb "be". Writers are encouraged to avoid "am, are, is" whenever possible, instead changing the sentence structure to avoid the next problem.
2. The use of passive voice. Like the above, the use of passive voice is a habit one falls into easily--I use it all the time on Xanga. But that doesn't matter, since I'm not writing a literary work. Anyhow, for those less grammatically inclined, passive voice is like this:
"It was decided that the committee would do such-and-such." Bad.
"The committee decided to do such-and-such." Good. Active voice.
3. The overuse of the present perfect tense. Aaaah! Almost EVERY SENTENCE he writes is, "Mike had seen the alien," or "The colonel had fired a shot." IT IS BORING AS HELL TO READ THIS STUFF! And he always, always, always utilizes it--rarely does he say, "Mike saw the alien," or make an outright statement.
4. Adverbs. Adverbs are the bane of any writer's existance. Adverbs suck. Adverbs are a way of saying, "I am a poor writer and I refuse to get off my arse and look in the thesaurus. I will not use strong verbs in my literature. I will say things like, 'said softly' instead of 'whispered'. I will say things like, 'shot wildy' instead of 'fired a spray of bullets'. I AM LAZY AND REFUSE TO IMPROVE MYSELF!" The kid will not use strong verbs. He will almost always say 'laugh' instead of 'cackle', 'chortle', 'snort', or 'snicker'. IT IS BORING AS HELL TO READ THIS STUFF!
5. Wordiness goes along with number four. When the doof does use a verb besides "be" or "had been" or a boring one, he will say stuff like this: "Mike whispered quietly." No shit, Sherlock. Of course Mike whispers in a soft voice. The verb is "whisper"! Sheesh. It gets even worse than that at times.
6. You know what I said in number five, about poor verb choice? Imagine that being applied to all his nouns. He said the word "hell" three times in two sentences. Horrible. Utterly horrible.
7. The incredibly, utterly, horrendously, repetetive redundancy of his literary works also known as writing. (Wow, I could see him putting down a sentence like that.) Almost an entire paragraph was spent describing a wall looking odd.
"The wall seemed to shift in one spot. The wall seemed to shift, Mike thought. He went over to see the wall closer. It seemed to be moving."
That is almost an exact quote.
8. "Seemed to." Oh, my God. This...individual will say "seemed to" almost as frequently as he uses the present perfect tense. I flipped out on him about it and he STILL DOES IT. Do you know how boring writing is when you see sentences like the following?
"The wall seemed to shift."
"The alien seemed to explode into a million pieces."
"The aliens seemed to appear out of nowhere."
"The alien appeared to be thinking."
It fricking hurts.
And one more nitpick...his opening sentence into the story--for some reason his short story is going to be 100+ pages (of pure crap, I told him)--is, "It was hot. Too hot." Seriously. I wanted to stop reading from that point on. He also plans on modeling his impending disaster after the Aliens and Predator series (not sure of the official name...Aliens vs. Predator? Ha.). I know for a fact that the series makes gratuitous use of the word "****". His writing has little swearing in it--I think he says "hell" twice and "damn" once. Now, if you are going to participate in the series, you've got to conform. I don't care how many moral standards it goes against--drop the f-bomb. It makes your characters sound human. *Sighs.*
Oh, just thought of something else--his descriptions absolutely suck. The setting is virtually nonexistant, the physical characterisitics of the Aliens and Predator are horrible (the only reason I could picture them in my mind was because I guessed that's what he was writing about and I've seen some of the movies), and his writing is, as stated several times above, boring. I can see the problem now--he will try and write the story to be all action. Unfortunately, his action scenes are devoid of tension. And his use of the five senses is limited to sight. (The sight of a person with cataracts, that is...see the previous statement about lack of setting.)
I want to feel surrounded by the story. Tell me about the pungent odor of rotting flesh, the shrieks reverberating through the Alien tunnels, the cool, dank hive that has walls slick with mucus! Tell me about what everyone feels, tell me about their tensions, tell me how the character tightens his finger around the trigger, double-checking his safety every few minutes. Make me want to read the story--immerse me in it.
/rant off
Well, I think that's all that needs to be said for now.