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yeah, whether GL likes it or not, the PT is the follow up of the OT.

if TFM came out first, lucas would never have the budget left to even get to ep3. its only by the support of OT fans, kids and adults, that the PT have been blockbusters.

on their own, as previous posters have stated, they are far to obscure for someone to enjoy, who does not know what a jedi is, or who anakin will eventually become.

without the elements of irony, and nostalgia from the OT, those little moments that matter will be missed "what you think your some kinda jedi?" "we will be watching your career with great interest" "your going to be the death of me" etc.

we should petition GL to package the saga dvd as eps 4,5,6,1,2,3. 😛

or we can just present this idea to supershadow, which would save much time, and cut through alot of red tape 😄

Killercool! your idea will be forwarded!

er, actually i was saying the opposite....i would have enjoyed phantom menace MORE if i had never seen the originals, with no frame of reference to be judgemental...."weird and unhinged" is my idea of a compliment when it comes to films.....not "zany", just something totally original i've never seen before....

i'm crossing ideas over from another post here, but i can't be bothered to dig around and find it.....if "luke, i am your father" is as imbedded in the public consciousness as "go ahead, make my day", doesn't that pretty much mean NO ONE is gonna be surprised by the "revelation" ever again (future generations).....i mean "frankly my dear, i don't give a damn" doesn't tell you the plot of the film.....

i will always watch them in numerical order, unless i'm just watching one trilogy by themselves.....at the very least it will end with the ones that don't annoy me 😉 .....

i've got something to present to supershadow....

i dont think little kids pay much attention to cliche movie lines that we adults tend to beat to death.

its easy for you and me to say that the lack of the ESB revelation doesnt matter, cause we've all been there done that, right? but to a new fan, i think its a downright sin for them to miss out on that.

Originally posted by guiro72
i've got something to present to supershadow....

yeah, i've got something for him too.
a good ol' "one finger salute" 😄

everyone's heard "luke, i am your father"....a hundred million times....maybe if i had a kid who was 5 years old, and had never left the house, had no friends, and had never watched television before, i would think about giving them the pure ot experience.....but for me myself it's numerical all the way....but i'm possibly a bit obsessive compulsive....

I still think there's a lot of weight to the scene even if you know its Anakin, the emotion behind the scene, for me, has always been Luke's reaction and his ultimate acceptance of this. For me it's not "oh wow, this bad guy was actually good at one point" or anything. For me it was always, jeez, how do you find that out and deal with it? I mean if you go far enough back, all bad guys were good at some point. But the fact that Luke now knows is why its powerful, he's built up this image of his father based on what Owen told him. Then Obi-wan tells him he was actually a jedi, so Luke thinks his dad was even cooler, now he finds out he may have been a Jedi, but now he's this ultimate evil mass murderer feared throughout the galaxy. The weight of the scene is how do you deal with that? Do you get mad at Yoda and Ob-wan for essentially lying to you, whether it was for a good cause or not? Or do you accept it and try to stay on the path of the light? The scene will always be important whether you know who he is or not. Its a scene more crucial to Luke's development than it is this shock value twist.

if that is the case, you can still watch them 4,5,6,1,2,3, and think of it as keeping it in chronological order 🙂

but the point is, the scene won't be ruined by watching the prequels first, because you'll be waiting for Luke to be told and the suspense will come from how he deals with it. So they still should be watched in numerical order.

but what if your OCD gets out of control and you end up watching them in alphabetical order 😄

1-attack of the clones
2-(the) empire strikes back
3-(a) new hope
4-(the) phantom menace
5-return of the jedi
6-revenge of the sith

Originally posted by mephistodesigns
but the point is, the scene won't be ruined by watching the prequels first, because you'll be waiting for Luke to be told and the suspense will come from how he deals with it. So they still should be watched in numerical order.

i just dont think it will have the same power as it did from 4-6.
i do agree though, it would not KILL the scene, but it will take the edge off of it

then you will need some seriously intense therapy before venturing back out into the real world! 🙂

think you're both right to some degree....i think the shock reveal was huge at the time, but then luke's reaction and inner turmoil takes over as the main point of drama (even while watching it for the first time)....if knowing the twist was going to kill the movie completely, then you wouldn't have watched it 300 times since.....and i know you have 😉 ....

302 actually 😱

When I first saw ANH (as a child), I took it as a major possibility that Darth Vader was Luke's father. Yeah, you can say that George Lucas didn't know that it was going to happen yet, but what else do you think when someone talks about your dead father, then introduces a masked villain, then goes on to talk about how this villain was once a good man. The shock was never big at all for me when ESB came out, so that should not be a motivation.

However, the movies should still be watched by the order they were produced in. That's what you do when you have an original and a prequel! You don't watch the prequel first, since that would be the same as watching the sequel first. Lucas tried to design it so that the movies can be watched in numerical order, but it is not a "you have to watch it like this" kind of thing. A prequel is just a sequel that takes place before, instead of after the original. Original always comes first. The PT takes place first chronologiocally, but it is the evolution that came from the beginnings. When you watch films, you progress; you do not regress.

The OT shows a universe. The PT expands on that universe. If you watch the PT first, you get a universe, then when you watch the OT, that universe becomes smaller and less significant.

I'm not saying that you can't watch it 1,2,3,4,5,6 whenever you want, but don't show it to your kids that way.

I'm not saying that you can't watch it 1,2,3,4,5,6 whenever you want, but don't show it to your kids that way.

You can do it either way. But do you think that some 10 year old kid in 2015 is just gonna start watching Star Wars for the first time, and for some reason start in the middle? I am not bickering at you, just a word of advice man 2 man: Don't tell kids how they should watch a certain movie, or they won't watch it at all. My Dad tried to make me watch John Wayne movies a zillion times because he loves John Wayne, but I didn't care and still don't because it was almost force fed. Its understandable why you would want to have future generations expierence it the way you did, but school always told us that #2 comes after #1, and that is the way its going to be. Life can be a real *****.

i just watched shattered glass with Hayden Christensen and i was actually impressed with his more emotional moments in the film... he CAN actually act sometimes... if he only he had done that right for his mother's death scene sequence.. he could've pulled out so much more than just one little tiny fake tear. I think he could've done it better, with the right direction.

I thought he did a great job with his mother's death scene. But that's just me. I'm sure we'll see a much better performance out of him during Episode 3.

Originally posted by Gangularis
i just watched shattered glass with Hayden Christensen and i was actually impressed with his more emotional moments in the film... he CAN actually act sometimes... if he only he had done that right for his mother's death scene sequence.. he could've pulled out so much more than just one little tiny fake tear. I think he could've done it better, with the right direction.

perhaps lucas didnt want a tear...you know its very easy to create tears through cg, same as facial movements, and addition of a smirk or a raised eyebrow, to avoid reshoots. if lucas really wanted tears, we would have seen them, whether or not hayden could conjure them up.

besides, im not sure if it fits anakins character to cry....b**** and moan till no end, yes....bot not crying