Originally posted by Darth Revan
*smacks forehead*Go read the damned constitution and tell me if it doesn't say that church and state are to be kept separate. Until then, I refuse to buy any of this "these are Satan's tactics" bullshit. Finti already explained in this thread why "In God we trust" is printed on our money.
And you've done something I guess you really enjoy--you've ignored the really relevant part of my post and taken only what you (or so you think) have an answer for.
I don't have to comment on everything you say lol, i didn't ignore it I read it. No need to be rude about it. I comment on things I have a comment about. Has nothing to do w/ignore, I disagree w/you it, thats that!!.
Okay. FE, you keep saying that it's not fair to Christians to not have the 10 Commandments in public school or gov't buildings, etc. But like has been said many times in here (including by me), it wouldn't be fair to followers of all the other religions to have the 10 Commandments but nothing for all the others. So it simply makes more sense to not have any of it. Seperation of church and state means that NO religion is to be in schools and gov't, plain and simple.
And to refute your argument that religion is being taken out of schools...as has been pointed out, "In God we Trust" was only added to paper money in the last 50 years or so. Same with "Under God" being added to the pledge. So if anything, there's MORE religion now, not less.
And for the last time, the USA was NOT founded on Christianity. It was founded on religious freedom.
Yes, we do have freedom of speech. But there is a limit to it: you only have freedom of speech until it infringes on the rights of another person. And praying publicly in schools or having the 10 Commandments in a school infringes on the right to freedom of religion of those who don't believe in Christianity, who don't believe in God.
If someone wants to learn about religion or pray in school, then they should go to a religious school.
Originally posted by Silver Stardust
Okay. FE, you keep saying that it's not fair to Christians to not have the 10 Commandments in public school or gov't buildings, etc. But like has been said many times in here (including by me), it wouldn't be fair to followers of all the other religions to have the 10 Commandments but nothing for all the others. So it simply makes more sense to not have any of it. Seperation of church and state means that NO religion is to be in schools and gov't, plain and simple.And to refute your argument that religion is being taken out of schools...as has been pointed out, "In God we Trust" was only added to paper money in the last 50 years or so. Same with "Under God" being added to the pledge. So if anything, there's MORE religion now, not less.
And for the last time, the USA was NOT founded on Christianity. It was founded on religious freedom.
Yes, we do have freedom of speech. But there is a limit to it: you only have freedom of speech until it infringes on the rights of another person. And praying publicly in schools or having the 10 Commandments in a school infringes on the right to freedom of religion of those who don't believe in Christianity, who don't believe in God.
If someone wants to learn about religion or pray in school, then they should go to a religious school.
That was not my only claim on America being founded on God, Presidents would pray daily for out country and that also has changed thru the years.
I said the 10 commandment were in some Gvmt blds & i knew a school that had them in there, i don't recall saying they should be in there. I was commenting on how people are whinning about them being there. And peeps wanting them out. I mean how long have they been there & NOW they're throwing a fit about it. And what does it matter when it was put on our money & on in the Pledge, the fact is it was added and has been there for over 50 yrs.
Why now are they whinning about it?? What has changed. To me what has changed, is the end of time is coming and Satan is doing everything he can to keep people in sin & to take God out of everything he can.
I never said there was NO graduations that didn't pray, I said i've been to several and they have ALL prayed. I've never been to one where they didn't pray. I guess that would depend on what part of the Country you live in. I never said religon shld be taught in schools. Agreed, there are christian schools for that.
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To me what has changed, is the end of time is coming and Satan is doing everything he can to keep people in sin & to take God out of everything he canSatan is no match.
And what does it matter when it was put on our money & on in the Pledge, the fact is it was added and has been there for over 50 yrs.you must take into consideration of what happened historically around the time it was added, they were added largely because of the increased religious sentiment at those trouble times
who says they gonna change it, i thought they argued about whether the commandments in GOvt classrooms and parayes at graduations and such to be disallowed
They ought to do something about the dollarbill though, too easy to counterfeit and must be hell to tell the difference between the bills for weak-sighted