goku vs superman

Started by crazy22 pages

Pre-Crisis superman sounds gay, that's not the superman we all refer too now.

"In February 1961, after Mr. Mxyzptlk has loosed a cloud of magic sneezing powder on Metropolis, Superman finds himself forced to give vent to a super-sneeze that literally destroys an entire distant solar system."

Well, I have to say that that's just gay. It's one of those situations where the writers got wasted off crack cocaine and accidently had the story follow through. a sneeze at that force would destroy most of the earth if not all, let alone just metropolis, and destroying a distant solar system......with a sneeze.......he would have to use that force to carry pretty much all of Earth's air into space, and while thining and spanning out still have the force to to wipe out a star.....and several planets....basically a few mollecules of air would travel at faster than light speed to wipe out a planet..........that's just ridiculus.

But don't get me wrong, DBZ characters don't follow physics either, but at vegeta's first apearance, He could destroy a planet (shorter younger brown haired Vegeta before he reached Earth). With Ease. Brolly could destroy a planet with a fart if he so pleased. Currently, Brolly, Cell, and Freeza ain't even doodoo crusts. Goku would send "Pre-crackhead" Supes into the next dimension, and then visit him in hell to apologize for accidentally farting on him....
"Hey, I'm sorry Superman, I was taking a crap in the woods when I sensed a Pedophilic ki behind me. U must have tried to stop him and got blown up as well. I didn't mean ta hurt anybody, but that buritto really got to me.......Hey.....(dumb wit puts the pieces together)......Why aren't you in heaven???..........::gasp:: that was YOUR ki!!!!!!."

what is the difference between the powers and power levels of the various superman incarnations??

I know that superman prime is clearly the most powerful, at god-like levels with 15'000 years of resting in the core of the sun, with the last GL ring and the abilty to manipulate time and space at willl.

BUt I am not sure about the technical difference between post crisis and pre-crisis superman.

Did he lose or gain power when:

1. The crisis on infinate earths happened.

2. He died fighting doomsday and was returned to life

3. He was split up into superman red and superman blue before rejoining into one superman

so every is ok with superman wining

Supes can't win this one.

he already did.....pre-crisis anyway

lol we're not talkin bout precrisis . even if we were, then I could just bring out Super Sayain 4 Goku, who could destroy an entire universe with a fart. if he so pleased. Brolly destroyed an entire galaxy, and that was early dragonball Z, before the cell battle. Supersayajin 3 goku could wipe him out with a cough. Super Sayajin 4 Goku would pull an SBD and still destroy half the universe. Destroying a galaxy with a sneeze is the strongest most unrealistic thing precrisis Supes has ever done. He can't destroy the universe. Brolly can. Super Sayajin 4 Goku is God.

DUDE.... DO NOT GET ME STARTED ON PRE-CRISIS SUPRMAN VS GOKU

OR IF U WANNA GO GOKU WITH THE DRAGON BALLS THE I'D BRING OUT SUPERMAN PRIME.

i dont get this whole pre-crisis thing, so did a crisis happen? I'll be right back im gonna go read on it

wont this thread just die? Supes has NOTHING on goku. Not speed, not agility, not fighting ability, not strength...

pre-superman and please read befor you make unneeded statements
http://theages.superman.ws/Encyclopaedia/powers.php

we aint talking about precrisis this point as been brought up by me earlier, NO ONE COULD BEAT PRECRISIS OK, so we have been talking about current supes ok.

First of all.
Gokus physical resistance:

VS Freeza, he comes up from the magma of Namec planet without being hurt.

When in SSJ 4Form he was having difficults in lift a building, he was VERY tired, and hurt.

Goku's superstrong punches create shockwaves that can reach planetary range.

Goku has lightspeed reflexes.

When he was having difficults lifting 40tons, he was after Cell saga.At the end of DBZ or of the lame Dragon Ball GT, Goku is too much strong for Superman.When he fought's Bebi, the took a Kame-Ha-Me-Ha blast that would destroy entire Earth and survived it, after that he was stunned for a few but he survived.Supes would be near killed from that, or killed.Goku hasn't moved planet's cause in DB they don't have to do it to show their strenght.

When in SSJ 4Form he was having difficults in lift a building, he was VERY tired, and hurt.

I just want to add something, and after fighting intensely with Bebi vegeta for a whole year non stop.

spiderninja008 when did brolly destroy galaxies. Was brolly supersayian or something?

I heard at the end of GT Goku becomes a god and immortal? Is this true? IF it is true then this Goku and superman prime stand together. No clear winner between this two.

At the end of DB GT Gokus fly away with Shenron into another dimension probably, before turning to Earth into the XX Tenkaichi Tourneament.
Broly was the "real" supersayan.He's born with the greatest energy of all sayans childrens, is combat level was around 8'000'000 when he was born from 1 week.He was the only one that was a Super Sayan on his own and doesn't need to train to become a SS.His power was so great that when Goku starts searching for him, he sense the presence of his energy but Broly wasn't here anymore he was on another planet.
Goku and the other becomes Super Sayan in other ways, Goku after Crilin got killed by Freeza goes on berserk rage, Vegeta was enraged cause Goku/Kaaroth was superior to him.And Gohan becomes a Super Sayan after training.Goten and Trunks were born with the ability to become Super Sayan.
Turning on Goku's powers, you forget that the Battle between Supes and Doomsday destroy Metropolis, and battles between Goku and his enemies destroy planets from Freeza Saga to the end of DBGT?
To take down supes is sufficient a Super Sayan 3 Goku or Vegeta.

Who were the player in the tournament? Fighting for brolly is just second nature, then? I s the any reference as to what he was doing when Goku was fighting Freezer, Cell, Buu?

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
I just want to add something, and after fighting intensely with Bebi vegeta for a whole year non stop.

spiderninja008 when did brolly destroy galaxies. Was brolly supersayian or something?

I heard at the end of GT Goku becomes a god and immortal? Is this true? IF it is true then this Goku and superman prime stand together. No clear winner between this two.

In Brolly's first appearance in DBZ movie #8 the first scene is the Southern Galaxy disapearing from the inside out, due to the Power of the real "Legendary Super Saiya-jin". Brolly would have continued to destroy the entire universe, as stated by gohan and trunks in the movie. DBZ really got rediculous with the whole power level thing. Brolly was born at a power level of 10,000. Look at the movie or the japanese translation. Freeza destroyed planet Vegeta with one finger at power level of around 500,000. Vegeta detroyed a planet and it's moon with one finger at power level 17,000 before he reached earth. At powerlevels around 300-600 whole sides of mountains and cities could be destroyed. Raditz's power level is 1,000. Goku at supersaiya-jin was well over a milion. and he just gets grotesquly stronger than that thruout the series.

ppl cept beefing up the stats of the DBZ characters on faulty websites. Brolly being born at 8,000,000 is ridiculous. I have the movie in english and japanese, and I have been learning japanese for seven years now, nothing is said about 8,000,000. It cleary says 10,000, which is the same power level as Bardock, Goku's pops.

When Vegeta destroyed that planet, that was a filler episode. We should stick with the manga vs comic and not anime vs comic. Thus making the movies and fillers of the anime useless in this discussion.

yeah, ur right.

Vegeta still would've destroyed earth, cuz he said he would've and tried to I don't doubt him. Goku fired the Kaioken Kamehameha wave to deflect it. Nappa was only 4,000 and basically was superman the way he destroyed the armies of Earth. He even destroyed an entire city with much ease. his power created earthquakes ans super storms and super electrical fields, and th ROCKS, dude the rocks!!! they levetated like even a mile away!!!

Even though the Bardock series was a filler, it was pretty true to the entire storyline. Freeza still destroyed a planet with ease. And Even Krillin later on can beat the first Freeza. Cell was a threat to the universe, and so much stronger than freeza seeing as everyone had to train their a$$e$ off in order to fight him. Freza was nothing to Trunks, and Trunks even after getting so much stronger, was nothing to Cell. Mr. Buu (fat buu) was also a threat to the Universe, and ultimately becomes obsolete to Goku. Super Buu becomes obsolete to Gohan in mystic form. SSJ3 Goku is so much stronger than that, and eual to Evil Buu. If you want to regard GT as a Dragonball series than, Goku just furthers his godhood.

But since the beginning of DBZ Goku has been a threat to whole planets.