Human torch vs. cyclops

untrue, the fact is it is so rare for cyclops really to let go and fire at full strength, so how do we know he wouldnt obliterate the torch. And johnny is way to cocky, also cyclops is a master tactician, hell always be a step ahead of torch

It's Scott Summers, not Bullseye.

Cyclops can hit Torch with his blast easily. Did anyone tell you that he cleared a room full of people with one blast. He counted where it would hit and hit all of them. Oh, and he didn't hit any of the people, he hit only their guns. This happened in Uncanny X-Men 392.
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yeah, he can be like a surgeon when he wants to with that optic blast

you guys seriously give the torch far too little credit and Cyclops far too much.

He IS STUCK ON THE GROUND.

Now if he had somewhere to run for cover...that may change things a bit. But it's a simple fact. Being in the air is an advantage to being on the ground.

I think that Cyclops would snatch him off air.

you guys seriously give the torch far too little credit and Cyclops far too much.

your doing the opposite. i know torch is powerful, he is, hes gone up against the best in the business, but cyke is smarter, he would use being stuck on the ground to his advantage, one thing cyke excels at is using everything at his disposal in a given situation.

I admit, i'm giving Cyclops no credit, because the guy is a poser. He doesn't impress me in the least.

And being on the ground is not an advantage, and hasn't been an advantage since World War 1 which was before advanced aviation enabled adequate aerial assaults.

Scott shoots one beam...if he misses...he's toast. The Human Torch is deadlier and has more room for error.

😆 i hate Cyclops.

me too...and seeing him in the movies only helped cement my idea that he's a little b!tch.

yes in the movie he was a *****, fair enough, but in the comics he isnt, hes actually quite powerfull, whether u hate him or not

Sorry for the Torch lovers, but do I have to count the times little Storm acted without thinking ? (Torch no, wait... ka-blam... oops, guess we'll have to fight this villain without your brother, Susan) He's nowhere the strategist, fighter and clever leader that Cyclops is. Facts !

He's much too hotheaded. Cyclops always keeps his cool.

And I really believe Cyclops has mastered his optic beams more than Torch has mastered his firepowers, though I can not prove it.

Cyclops started his training before Torch. Cyclops is older and he was what, like 14-15 when he went to the X-Men? Torch got his powers when he was about 20...

And I really believe Cyclops has mastered his optic beams more than Torch has mastered his firepowers, though I can not prove it.

u dont have to prove it, the proof is in any comics with either of them in it. great point about him being hotheaded, he loses his temper too easily.

Originally posted by Linkalicious
I've seen Cyclops miss, so I most certainly wouldn't sit here giving him the kind of accuracy credentials that he's being given. It's Scott Summers, not Bullseye.

Human Torch IS the man. Have you ever heard what Spiderman has had to say about him? Spiderman says that the Human Torch "toys with him" when they battle.

Human Torch can hurl flames from a higher vantage point with both hands while flying around avoiding attacks. He can mask himself behind a shrowd of flame that Scott wouldn't even be able to see beyond, and rain fire down on him until there is no more Cyclops left.

Human Torch is one of Marvel's greatest heroes....Cyclops is just some goofy guy with a cool visor.

dude, is is literaly imposible for cykes to miss, think about it, he looks at something, beams travel at near the speed of light, in a straight line, to wut he is looking at because the beams come straght from his eyes, therefore, he cant miss

torch got his powers when he was 20?....what highschool has 20 year olds in it cuz that is when he got his powers...and Torch has far outmastered cyclops in skill...ever see when he fought Graviton?...a guy who humbled the entire avengers

first hit = winner

Oh. I forgot Torch's age. I just thought that Reed would be intelligent enough to not let an underage to spaceship in testing. Well, still, Cyclops has more skill.

Originally posted by crazyspinz
dude, is is literaly imposible for cykes to miss, think about it, he looks at something, beams travel at near the speed of light, in a straight line, to wut he is looking at because the beams come straght from his eyes, therefore, he cant miss

Impossible to miss?

Tsk....tsk. Scott has missed before, and you know NOTHING of the speed at which his Optic Blast travels so don't go claiming that it travels "near the speed of light" unless you have some way of backing it up.

It is most certainly not IMPOSSIBLE for him to miss. He can't JUST look at a target and kill it, he has to POINT HIS ENTIRE HEAD at the target in order to hit him.

What happens if the Human Torch makes a wall of fire in the sky that shrouds him from Cyclops view?

Roast Cyclops for dinner....

Torch has to many advantages over Cyc to lose.

your right about one thing, cyclops can miss, his blast does not fire at the speed of light or near it, but it is fast.

do u think cyclops at full power wouldnt cut through torch's wall of fire like a hot knife through butter?