"I'm in martial arts since I was 11/12"
Where do you live again? No offense, but last time I checked there weren't too many ancient master martial artists spread throughout the U.S. The majority is a bunch of tiny dojos where soccer moms drop their kids off and the kids get a blackbelt in about 2 or 3 years. (Which as you probably know, is ridiculous.) There is no way anyone here is going to match a Shaolin Monk in dicipline or technique. People might dedicate 15 hours a week to their little martial arts class here, but those monks live it.
"I've seen and I've done myself various blocking and parrying manouvers, you can use all the brute strenght you want to, but when I'm faster and I'm quite strong on my own too(and I am), I'm gonna outmatch you."
Then you've got to admit that actual martial arts fights look nothing like the choreographed ones they have in the movies. I didn't say parrying was impossible. And even you have to admit there is a limit to your abilities. You're not going to be parrying any hits from Spiderman either.
I agree with you on some accounts and Ive said this time and time again, most people who train their whole lives have never been in any fights, and cannot control their emotions enough to help them insituations where guys aren't going to let them get up or fight like they you wnat to fight.
There are just people out there who are good at hurting people, and I don't like those dojos next to the washing machine place, these guys are init for the money, although I have done various forms, traditional and untraditional, been in real fights capable of controlling my emotions, and came from basic training last year where larger guys had more strength,( could exert 90% of their force once then wear out, and I had more power , could exert 60% of my force quicker, and for longer periods of time and had hitting knowledge therefore i did More DAMAGE than the big guys.
The truth is you don't need all of your strength to beat someone, just knowledge and a calm, fast acting mind, though there are points technique wont take you, like trying to kung fu a fully grown beserk polar bear. You wont stand a chance, kind of like Bats vs. Spidey simply head to head.blowupblowupblowup
Originally posted by 8bitChris
"I'm in martial arts since I was 11/12"Where do you live again? No offense, but last time I checked there weren't too many ancient master martial artists spread throughout the U.S. The majority is a bunch of tiny dojos where soccer moms drop their kids off and the kids get a blackbelt in about 2 or 3 years. (Which as you probably know, is ridiculous.) There is no way anyone here is going to match a Shaolin Monk in dicipline or technique. People might dedicate 15 hours a week to their little martial arts class here, but those monks live it.
"I've seen and I've done myself various blocking and parrying manouvers, you can use all the brute strenght you want to, but when I'm faster and I'm quite strong on my own too(and I am), I'm gonna outmatch you."
Then you've got to admit that actual martial arts fights look nothing like the choreographed ones they have in the movies. I didn't say parrying was impossible. And even you have to admit there is a limit to your abilities. You're not going to be parrying any hits from Spiderman either.
"Where do I live?Italy, check out under the name of the poster guy before answering.
I'm 19 years old, and I don't have to admit that movies are just movies.
The concept of a movie is fictional and abstract since it's creation.
I've never said I can parry hits from a guy that is 30times faster than a human, I've said that most of physically trained guys with technique or that are at their first steps in fight trainings are pathetic compared to someone of my level, and I can say it cause I'm the instructor assistant of my master, not the last of the class."
Yeah well, Italy doesn't exactly have a strong reputation for producing ancient martial arts masters either.
Good job, i'm glad you're having fun and doing well in your class. Thanks for agreeing with me. I'm not sure why you put yourself in this thread anyway; unless you were trying to brag.
I still don't think martial arts are the "end all" decision to fights. Sure, if your in a competition where only punches and kicks are allowed that's one thing; but if you're in a street fight with two physically superior guys and one tackles you to the ground and starts punching you in the face... well, that's another thing.
**Edit** Sorry for acting like a kid K3v1l. I'm not saying you don't got skills, I was just getting defensive in the point I was trying to make. Don't take offense. I apologize.
Originally posted by jinzin
well the organic stuff has only been around for the better part of a year or so I think.....I don't know exactly how strong it is.....I think that wolverine broke out of it because i didn't adhere fast enough for the amount that spidey used on him....go to the spiderman vs. wolverine/capa/dd thread and go to about page 80 or (theres a ton of scans) you can see what happened for yourself......but with enough of it he trapped absorbing man's arm....so who knows...
in anycase spiderman and batman have just about an equal chance of nailing the other with their projectiles which is why I thought this match to be so equal...
And when it comes to who's tagging who with projectiles, let's face it....only one of them has superhuman agility, reflexes, speed, leaping ability, i.e. abilities more than adept for evading projectiles.
Originally posted by lifeisaglich
WOw I thought I said batman was in his boxers, and that is just it. And he is going to survive an unpulled punch from spiderman. I never mentioned batman's suit. at all. Of course batman in this situation batman is not going to survive. Because of the suit he was able to survive a punch from a ticked off superman from the future, and again from a superman under the control of red kryptonite.Is this logical? Superman >>>>>>> many times stronger than spiderman. If some guy survive a punch from superman is it logical for that guy to survive the best spiderman has to offer?
Please just answer the question and not beating around the bush. This is just a straight yes or No question.
So you are acknowledging the fact that batman can control his mobiles with a remote control. Because you STRAWNILLA said that I'm not saying that Batman has to be inside the Batmobile for it to do anything. Apart from that I am lost.
......Batman's supposed to survive an unpulled punch from Spidey and Supes because he has a suit that bullets can't penetrate? Has the thought of both Spidey and Supes being capable of hitting harder than a bullet ever crossed your mind? How about the fact that maybe Batman created a suit able to deal with punches from Supes? Otherwise just the thought of Batman's suit being able to stand against such force would be utter crap? And what of Batman's unprotected jaw, can Spidey not shatter it seeing as Batman is human in every sense of the word? There, good enough of an answer for you?
And I don't know what to say to your last argument, seeing as you haven't made much of an argument to retaliate...no offense.
Originally posted by jinzin
how does "agility" make punches better?I've been arguing for batmans gadgets the whole time....if the goblins can lob pumkin bombs and gas him to sleep batman shouldn't have a problem...
Should we bypass the fact that almost all the Goblins in comic existence are either dead or......dead.
Originally posted by StrawNilla
......Batman's supposed to survive an unpulled punch from Spidey and Supes because he has a suit that bullets can't penetrate? Has the thought of both Spidey and Supes being capable of hitting harder than a bullet ever crossed your mind? How about the fact that maybe Batman created a suit able to deal with punches from Supes? Otherwise just the thought of Batman's suit being able to stand against such force would be utter crap? And what of Batman's unprotected jaw, can Spidey not shatter it seeing as Batman is human in every sense of the word? There, good enough of an answer for you?
Is batman suppose to survive an unpulled punch from spiderman? With the suit...Yes.... batman is suppose to survive an unpulled punch from spiderman. Is batman suppose to survive A punch (meaning one) from superman and survive? With the suit...yes, Batman is suppose to survive a punch (Meaning one) from superman and survive.
No... the thought of spiderman and superman hitting harder than bullets has never crossed my mind. Seeing as one is everything superhuman due to being bitten by a radio active spider. And the other one can literally sneeze and a galaxy is destroyed. Nope... the thought of these two hitting harder than a bullet had never crossed my mind.
How about the fact that maybe Batman created a suit able to deal with punches from Supes?
My god his got it. baby steps, this is how things are done...little by little....Yes batman has created a suit able to deal with punches from superman. And expanding on your question if batman has a suit able to protect him form the likes of superman, what good is spiderman's punches going to do?
Otherwise just the thought of Batman's suit being able to stand against such force would be utter crap?
Is this your answer to everything that does not sit right with you. Aren't you being to hasty in making your judgement? How about batman's tech? Do not take light batman's tech.
And what of Batman's unprotected jaw, can Spidey not shatter it seeing as Batman is human in every sense of the word?
😆 I know about the unprotected jaw. In-fact I think that the first punch from spiderman is going to destroy his jaw. And the second is going to finish him. Yes I thought about that. It is just to bad that batman is the better fighter. And yes I know about spiderman's unique style. But do not forget that batman changes his fighting style to fit the unique style of his opponents.
And I don't know what to say to your last argument, seeing as you haven't made much of an argument to retaliate...no offense.
None taken...it was not a retaliatory argument. I was just confirming that you acknowledged the fact that batman can control his mobiles via remote control. For as you said, (I'm not saying that Batman has to be inside the Batmobile for it to do anything.)
I have answered all of your questions, Now why don't you the same and answer mine. It is just a yes or No question...Short and simple.
Is this logical? Superman >>>>>>> many times stronger than spiderman. If some guy survive a punch from superman is it logical for that guy to survive the best spiderman has to offer?
Soooooo.......
I do hope this is not how you are going to answer all my questions.🙂
Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Is batman suppose to survive an unpulled punch from spiderman? With the suit...Yes.... batman is suppose to survive an unpulled punch from spiderman. Is batman suppose to survive A punch (meaning one) from superman and survive? With the suit...yes, Batman is suppose to survive a punch (Meaning one) from superman and survive.No... the thought of spiderman and superman hitting harder than bullets has never crossed my mind. Seeing as one is everything superman due to being bitten by a radio active spider. And the other one can literally sneeze and a galaxy is destroyed. Nope... the thought of these two hitting harder than a bullet had never crossed my mind.
My god his got it. baby steps, this is how things are done...little by little....Yes batman has created a suit able to deal with punches from superman. And expanding on your question if batman has a suit able to protect him form the likes of superman, what good is spiderman's punches going to do?
Is this your answer to everything that does not sit right with you. Aren't you being to hasty in making your judgement? How about batman's tech? Do not take light batman's tech.
😆 I know about the unprotected jaw. In-fact I think that the first punch from spiderman is going to destroy his jaw. And the second is going to finish him. Yes I thought about that. It is just to bad that batman is the better fighter. And yes I know about spiderman's unique style. But do not forget that batman changes his fighting style to fit the unique style of his opponents.
None taken...it was not a retaliatory argument. I was just confirming that you acknowledged the fact that batman can control his mobiles via remote control. For as you said, (I'm not saying that Batman has to be inside the Batmobile for it to do anything.)
I have answered all of your questions, Now why don't you the same and answer mine. It is just a yes or No question...Short and simple.
Is this logical? Superman >>>>>>> many times stronger than spiderman. If some guy survive a punch from superman is it logical for that guy to survive the best spiderman has to offer?
I do hope this is not how you are going to answer all my questions.🙂
Why would Superman try to hurt Batman?
Because you know, that's what Superman does. He's vicious and kills everything he ever fights. I saw Superman rip a baby's head off once. He just has no moral code or ethics or anything. Superman is a savage killing machine. I read a comic where super man used his laser vision to decimate a pack of wild cute two day old kittens on a rampage. That's how badass Superman is.
He's no match for Batman though. He'll punch a planet and destroy the universe by accident; but you see, Batman has made armor that can accomodate these Superman punches. So whatever you say doesn't count.
Superman is as fast as light you say? Well Batman knows martial arts. So tough shit. Batman wins.