Originally posted by Creshosk
The question would be how much skill do you need to be able to hit spiderman with a bomb?
Very impressive of you to show us a pic of a fight in which Spider-Man gets hit by a bomb. The guy has fought literally thousands and thousands of fights, but you showed us he actually can be hit by a bomb.
Impressive... I'm sure if you search long enough, you'll probably find even a few more pics of SM being hit a bomblike things.
Oh yeah, FYI : that's the comic in which SM gets angry and breaks Hobgoblins jaw very short after that bomb thing. Not bad for a guy who fought Demogoblin and Hobgoblin at the same time and who was beaten senseless by Hobgoblin.
But I'm sure Batman could take those punches 😉
Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Is batman suppose to survive an unpulled punch from spiderman? With the suit...Yes.... batman is suppose to survive an unpulled punch from spiderman. Is batman suppose to survive A punch (meaning one) from superman and survive? With the suit...yes, Batman is suppose to survive a punch (Meaning one) from superman and survive.No... the thought of spiderman and superman hitting harder than bullets has never crossed my mind. Seeing as one is everything superhuman due to being bitten by a radio active spider. And the other one can literally sneeze and a galaxy is destroyed. Nope... the thought of these two hitting harder than a bullet had never crossed my mind.
My god his got it. baby steps, this is how things are done...little by little....Yes batman has created a suit able to deal with punches from superman. And expanding on your question if batman has a suit able to protect him form the likes of superman, what good is spiderman's punches going to do?
Is this your answer to everything that does not sit right with you. Aren't you being to hasty in making your judgement? How about batman's tech? Do not take light batman's tech.
😆 I know about the unprotected jaw. In-fact I think that the first punch from spiderman is going to destroy his jaw. And the second is going to finish him. Yes I thought about that. It is just to bad that batman is the better fighter. And yes I know about spiderman's unique style. But do not forget that batman changes his fighting style to fit the unique style of his opponents.
None taken...it was not a retaliatory argument. I was just confirming that you acknowledged the fact that batman can control his mobiles via remote control. For as you said, (I'm not saying that Batman has to be inside the Batmobile for it to do anything.)
I have answered all of your questions, Now why don't you the same and answer mine. It is just a yes or No question...Short and simple.
Is this logical? Superman >>>>>>> many times stronger than spiderman. If some guy survive a punch from superman is it logical for that guy to survive the best spiderman has to offer?
I do hope this is not how you are going to answer all my questions.🙂
And what's to say that Batman will even use the suit he used to compensate for Superman's punches for this fight? I mean, I'm sure Batman anticipates alot of thing (not to a superhuman degree mind you), but Batman's not the kind of guy to just go out and make all the stops for EVERY situation. This is especially so in a non-prep fight where he has no knowledge of Spidey's superhuman strength.
And Batman being the better fighter? I think not. As aforementioned I just don't think their respective styles should be compared, you've got one guy with years of training in multiple forms of martial arts....and then you have another guy whose style is so unorthodox as it is collaborated of abilties rarely if ever seen displayed by just one character that it would really be pointless to try and see who's superior....esp. seeing as Batman could not just adapt and assume superhuman strength, speed, agility, equilibrium, elasticity, etc. for his own. It would only result in his becoming easy pickings for a guy like Spidey (who definitely has the aerial advantage if Batman tries bouncing around to evade Spidey's attacks.)
And as for my statement about the Batmobile, whether or not Batman is inside it or not will not be a factor in it's effectiveness. There is no element of surprise advantage for Batman when he's facing a guy with pre-cog. When you factor in the superhuman agility, speed, relfexes, etc, etc.....well, I think you get the picture.
Originally posted by StrawNilla
Okay, so Batman creates a suit strong enough to deal with Superman's punches.......that still doesn't compensate for lack of protection for his jaw. A jaw that, as you have admitted, is more than vulnerable to Spidey's attacks. Nor does this compensate for the tactic of Spidey rattling Bats with a punch to the jaw hard enough to KO him. And not even with the suit can Batman's strength be augmented enough to break free of Spidey's webbing.
Batman's jaw is deadly most vulnerable to spidey's attack. But then again batman is the better fighter. And this is what I am judgeing this on. Seeing as there are people out there who are faster and stronger than spiderman have tried and failed. So I do not see spiderman getting a shot like this.
And what's to say that Batman will even use the suit he used to compensate for Superman's punches for this fight? I mean, I'm sure Batman anticipates alot of thing (not to a superhuman degree mind you), but Batman's not the kind of guy to just go out and make all the stops for EVERY situation. This is especially so in a non-prep fight where he has no knowledge of Spidey's superhuman strength.
You create things like the suit ,able to survive a punch from superman not to only keep it in your closet at home. But to bring it out and stay with it. Isn't spiderman a 15 tonner now do you expect him to leave it behind and become a 10 tonner again?
And Batman being the better fighter? I think not. As aforementioned I just don't think their respective styles should be compared, you've got one guy with years of training in multiple forms of martial arts....and then you have another guy whose style is so unorthodox as it is collaborated of abilties rarely if ever seen displayed by just one character that it would really be pointless to try and see who's superior....esp. seeing as Batman could not just adapt and assume superhuman strength, speed, agility, equilibrium, elasticity, etc. for his own. It would only result in his becoming easy pickings for a guy like Spidey (who definitely has the aerial advantage if Batman tries bouncing around to evade Spidey's attacks.)
It has been documented that batman changes his fighting style to fit his opponent. The fact that he can do this simply states that he has mastered enough to know when a change in tactic is required. With this I conclued that batman is the better fighter because he adapts his fighting style to that of his opponent. That is trying to cancel out his opponents methods. PS. Batman does not have superhuman strength even when he adapts.
And as for my statement about the Batmobile, whether or not Batman is inside it or not will not be a factor in it's effectiveness. There is no element of surprise advantage for Batman when he's facing a guy with pre-cog. When you factor in the superhuman agility, speed, relfexes, etc, etc.....well, I think you get the picture.
Oh yes there are element of surprise, Spiderman already has the car and throw's it. The blast from the car is going to knock him out. Batman is inside the car and failed to push spiderman back. Spiderman is about to pick up the car but batman ejects. That ejection is already a distraction and the car still blowing up is still going to knock spiderman out because I dought he will be able to clear the blast radius.
What I am just showing you is that there are still elements of surprice.
Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Batman's jaw is deadly most vulnerable to spidey's attack. But then again batman is the better fighter. And this is what I am judgeing this on. Seeing as there are people out there who are faster and stronger than spiderman have tried and failed. So I do not see spiderman getting a shot like this.You create things like the suit ,able to survive a punch from superman not to only keep it in your closet at home. But to bring it out and stay with it. Isn't spiderman a 15 tonner now do you expect him to leave it behind and become a 10 tonner again?
It has been documented that batman changes his fighting style to fit his opponent. The fact that he can do this simply states that he has mastered enough to know when a change in tactic is required. With this I conclued that batman is the better fighter because he adapts his fighting style to that of his opponent. That is trying to cancel out his opponents methods. PS. Batman does not have superhuman strength even when he adapts.
Oh yes there are element of surprise, Spiderman already has the car and throw's it. The blast from the car is going to knock him out. Batman is inside the car and failed to push spiderman back. Spiderman is about to pick up the car but batman ejects. That ejection is already a distraction and the car still blowing up is still going to knock spiderman out because I dought he will be able to clear the blast radius.
What I am just showing you is that there are still elements of surprice.
And Spidey's superhuman strength to a 15 ton lifting force degree is not something you can leave at home neither figuratively and physically, strength like that or of any kind isn't something you can throw off to the side. A suit, however, is. And Batman is not one to waste his resources in a battle he isn't even allowed to prepare himself for, in fact, since this is the case, he'd most likely assume that a battle he doesn't have prep for would not have him being pitted up against someone as powerful as Supes.
And again, Batman is just not on a level high enough physically to adapt to Spidey's superhuman abilties, Spidey is just on a level physically that Bats cannot augment himself up to by will alone. Nor can he do if he applied himself. He cannot overcome Spidey physically, and physically, his attacks will be nigh-ineffective against someone with the degree of superhuman durabilty that Spidey has. Batman has never encountered a collaboration of superhuman abilties that Spidey has in his ploy, and he cannot anticipate it before hand. In short: in a non-prep fight, Bats is overwhelmed if the two fight in hth combat.
So the car will explode if Spidey tries and lifts it? 😕 Even if this is so, all he has to do is flip it instead, a notion that will maybe take half the time of trying to throw it. And even if Spidey goes against the notion of trying to flip it, the spider sense should warn him of the car if it's about to explode before he attempts anything brash. And who says Batman will clear the explosion radius if Spidey tosses it and he ejects? Especially if, as you've said, it's exploding while Batman is inside (seriously, it's as if you said Bats will have the Batmobile explode once Spidey can get close enough to throw it, before Batman has the chance to eject.)
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
no spidey is not more resilient to damage than scorpion and he is not the best shot, he is more versatile and unique than pretty much anyone else, any way don't just show one pick, to use in your favor explain that story on both ups and downs, because DD ko'ong symbiote spidey is grade a crap.
Just cause you don't like it doesn't make it crap.
It's funny how you agreed to all the points I made though.
So where are your pics?
One pic is all that is needed, I made a point but didn't go anywhere beyond that. No specualtion was added.
You on the other hand are nothing but speculation, and it is very poor specualtion at that.