I wasn't justifying anything, did you see that black versus thread, made by GothamProtector, he also bashed us before, in an anime thread, using the N word(I don't really get mad over it) but I don't use it myself, i have a better vocabulary.
I just know there are all types of people online, and you think badly of me more than ever after I typed that, thats all.
Yeah I saw that thread, it was the most distasteful thing I've seen in a while.
"I hate you as much as the letters you type." I was trying to make a comparison showing how hard it is to hate letters. You're barely a personatilty. These forums show one limited view of one side of you at best, you follow?
And I do think less of you, all your other insults were just fine. Frankly I thought such a tactic was beneath you.
Originally posted by Wanderer259
Not really. A single solid punch to the throat or to the temple is sufficient to kill a human being; neither weapons nor superhuman strength is necessary to be a killing machine. Ask Lady Shiva.
To be nit-picky, your example is bad. A polar bear also has tremendous weight to throw in with its physical power, not to mention a height advantage as well. In fact, Batman is both heavier and taller than Spider-Man.[/B]
Spidey's much stronger, faster, more durable, more elastic, more agile, more powerful in general, has webbing strong enough to support a collapsing building, can adhere to walls, has a spider sense that (when coupled with his superhuman reflexes, speed, and leaping ability) makes him that much harder to touch...slomehow, I don't think a height or weight advantage or both will help Batman from getting tossed like a sac of lightweight potatoes in this fight.
Of course it is. It's easier no matter who you are. The more resources you have, the better you can strategize. Spider-Man is also a 'town' hero as he hardly ever leaves NYC. I don't see your point.[/B]
Actually, sometimes Peter gets hit because he's too busy going, "Huh?" when his spider-sense hits him. And that's how his suit should work based on what I've heard it's made from. What it's done in the comics, I don't know for certain. Gadgets are also a viable reason. Are Spider-Man's web-shooters not a gadget? Perhaps they once were, but the new, organic ones aren't as versatile as the old mechanical ones and since we've been throwing the mechanical web-shooters' specs around (such as the tensile strength and whatnot), I'm assuming those are the ones Spidey's using right now.[/B]
No, but Bats may have, and probably does, an EMP device that would make it useless. [/B]
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
Styles lead to patterns and predictabilities. All styles are counterable and in general only work against other style. The true fighter fights with no style.
Slight faster
If you honestly think he can dodge Bat's attacks all day long you have never read a Spidey comic.
And another thing, the fight won't take all day long.
And last but certainly not least, Spider-Man is the tougher and stronger one, so it's Batman who really really really needs to dodge Spider-Mans attacks. Not vice versa.It's been proven that one punch won't do against a peek human and like 3 different' examples have been given (what's that guys name sin eater?)
Batman is only human, peak human or no peak human => only human. Is his skull or his jaw made of steel ? No. And even if it were made of steel, Spider-Man can crush steel.You've assumed what level of effort Spidey would put in although you have no comics to support what you're saying especially since even according to you he always holds back. 5 seconds is 4 seconds of excess planning. And having a plan goes hand in hand with victory for Bats.
You wish.
Originally posted by Wanderer259
Not really. A single solid punch to the throat or to the temple is sufficient to kill a human being; neither weapons nor superhuman strength is necessary to be a killing machine. Ask Lady Shiva.
(note : Spider-Man didn't beat the Hulk, to say the least, but he sure did hurt him, and he took the Hulk beating pretty well).
Well your so damn respected 😕 Still trying to run this forum I see 😆 Opinions vary about a lot of things 😄 But you don't like others having one. You disappoint me.
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
As much as I can hate the letters you type. My opinion of you is poor, poor indeed. But you flatter yourself, I don't waste my hate on people I'll never see or know nothing about.
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
Styles lead to patterns and predictabilities. All styles are counterable and in general only work against other style. The true fighter fights with no style.
This is deep....this was what Bruce lee was getting at when he created his own fighting style....Jeet Kun do. And if guys don't mind me quoting The great late Bruce Lee. "Jeet Kun do is the art of fighting without fighting. You put water in a cup...the water becomes the cup....put water in a kettle...the water becomes the kettle...be water my friend."🙂 explanation....be unpredictable. And this from one of the greatest martial artist that ever lived...batman learning all those martial arts and putting it into one. Nice he took bruce lee's teachings to heart.
Originally posted by StrawNilla
If both characters were to go on an unarmed killing spree then Spidey would most definitely have the higher kill toll to his credit. Think about it, Bats would have to rely on hitting specific areas on the body at a certain time, while Spidey could simply make your skull implode with a simple punch or palm strike. Spidey could kick a guy through the stomach. He could suffocate a guy with webbing. He could slam a guy into a wall really hard, not to mention that with both characters on their feet running after a fleeing victim, Spidey could run down both his and Bat's vicitm before Bats could get close to either.
How is this fair, first you start with both batman and spiderman un armed. then you move to spideman useing his webbs and not his arms. And batman is left to fight unarmed and not use his gadgets. How Is this fair? 😆
And for your information batman does not need to hit specific places on the body to get a kill. He can also go through their skull and into the brain. You did not know batman could do this did you.
Originally posted by lifeisaglich
This is deep....this was what Bruce lee was getting at when he created his own fighting style....Jeet Kun do. And if guys don't mind me quoting The great late Bruce Lee. "Jeet Kun do is the art of fighting without fighting. You put water in a cup...the water becomes the cup....put water in a kettle...the water becomes the kettle...be water my friend."🙂 explanation....be unpredictable.How is this fair, first you start with both batman and spiderman un armed. then you move to spideman useing his webbs and not his arms. And batman is left to fight unarmed.How Is this fair? 😆
And for your information batman does not need to hit specific places on the body to get a kill. He can also go through their skull and into the brain. You did not know batman could do this did you.
I've known he could do it and so can people with no formal training...that's what I've been trying to get YOU to realize.... Strength matters!!
A strong regular guy could punch through a weak regular dudes skull.
Spider-man ain't a strong regular dude! and Batman can only be the STRONGEST REGULAR/HUMAN DUDE!
regular means NOT INHUMAN or IRREGULAR!!! so don't get it twisted cause training and practise will never make him MORE THAN REGULAR/HUMAN!!
Originally posted by The MISTER
I've known he could do it and so can people with no formal training...that's what I've been trying to get YOU to realize.... Strength matters!!
Of cause strength matters...but it is hardly the deciding factor when faced with a trained martial artist.
A strong regular guy could punch through a weak regular dudes skull.
Correction... a strong regular guy is not going to be able to punch through the skull of weak regular guy. The worse the strong regular guy can do is give the weak regular guy a concussion. And please do understand that batman and Lady Shiva are able to go through peoples skulls with their fingers because of training.
regular means NOT INHUMAN or IRREGULAR!!! so don't get it twisted cause training and practise will never make him MORE THAN REGULAR/HUMAN!!
You are correct...training only makes batman better and stronger in his art as he goes along. And let's not forget Practice makes perfect.🙂
Originally posted by who?-kid
Everybody, gather around, and look at the picture below. Batman can not survive such an attack from Spider-Man.
Hey who?kid nice post. If pressure point can work on people as strong as the HULK why is it not going to work on Spiderman? Note that spiderman is hitting Hulk on the ears... a known pressure point region. So you see batman using pressure points on spiderman is going to work quit nicely. Thanks for the post BUB. 🙂
And yes such a blow from spiderman is going to disorient batman AND maybe stop him that is if batman stood on one place and told spiderman to slap him on both his ears the way he did to HULK. But I don't see spiderman pulling this off on the batman while in a fight simply because batman is the better fighter.
Originally posted by who?-kid
Everybody, gather around, and look at the picture below. Batman can not survive such an attack from Spider-Man.
Thank you who?-kid for posting this picture. 😎
I had that comic and referred to this tactic on the Wolvy vs Spidey thread long ago.
Batman would die from this attack and Wolverine would be knocked out at the least.
Argument ender.
Tight work. 😮💨
Originally posted by Zahit
Good Pic Who?-Kid.
Do you have the Amazing Spiderman issue where he feels like
blowing off some steam by going into an abandoned building
scheduled for demolition and destroying it with his bare hands?
Post all those picks.
Telling people how strong Spidey is isn't enough.
Show them!!!!!
Word.
Replace "abandoned building" with Batman and see what happens 😉
Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Hey who?kid nice post. If pressure point can work on people as strong as the HULK why is it not going to work on Spiderman? Note that spiderman is hitting Hulk on the ears... a known pressure point region. So you see batman using pressure points on spiderman is going to work quit nicely. Thanks for the post BUB. 🙂And yes such a blow from spiderman is going to disorient batman AND maybe stop him that is if batman stood on one place and told spiderman to slap him on both his ears the way he did to HULK. But I don't see spiderman pulling this off on the batman while in a fight simply because batman is the better fighter.
Oh wait I just gave batman an up grade didn't I....PLEASE I DID NOT GIVE BATMAN ANY UP GRADES.
Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Hey who?kid nice post. If pressure point can work on people as strong as the HULK why is it not going to work on Spiderman? Note that spiderman is hitting Hulk on the ears... a known pressure point region. So you see batman using pressure points on spiderman is going to work quit nicely. Thanks for the post BUB. 🙂
Not vice versa.
When written right, I really don't see Batman jumping all of a sudden on Spider-Man and surprise him using pressure points.
Spider-Man's reflexes, together with his spider-sense and agility, will make that SM is always one step ahead...
And yes such a blow from spiderman is going to disorient batman AND maybe stop him that is if batman stood on one place and told spiderman to slap him on both his ears the way he did to HULK. But I don't see spiderman pulling this off on the batman while in a fight simply because batman is the better fighter.
Batman is arguably the better fighter, but that's simply not enough.
If both characters were to go on an unarmed killing spree then Spidey would most definitely have the higher kill toll to his credit. Think about it, Bats would have to rely on hitting specific areas on the body at a certain time, while Spidey could simply make your skull implode with a simple punch or palm strike. Spidey could kick a guy through the stomach. He could suffocate a guy with webbing. He could slam a guy into a wall really hard, not to mention that with both characters on their feet running after a fleeing victim, Spidey could run down both his and Bat's vicitm before Bats could get close to either.
I don't recall saying Batman would simply beat Spider-Man's "kill toll", but that Spider-Man isn't suddenly the better killer just because he's stronger.
To be nit-picky, no, Spider-Man couldn't implode a human's skull with a punch, nor could he kick through someone. If he punched someone in the head full-force, sure, it'd send their head backwards and snap their neck. If he kicked them, it's more likely he'd just hemorrhage something so badly that they'd die later - but not immediately.
If anything is a factor, it'd be Spider-Man's superior speed which would allow him to simply kill faster. But Spidey's actual ability to kill a person isn't so significantly better than Batman's.
By the way, saying Spidey could use webbing isn't what I call unarmed, especially when you brought up an unarmed scenario.
Your point?Spidey's much stronger, faster, more durable, more elastic, more agile, more powerful in general, has webbing strong enough to support a collapsing building, can adhere to walls, has a spider sense that (when coupled with his superhuman reflexes, speed, and leaping ability) makes him that much harder to touch...slomehow, I don't think a height or weight advantage or both will help Batman from getting tossed like a sac of lightweight potatoes in this fight.
It looks like you're just trying to argue for the sake of argument. This isn't even a point as to how Batman could win. All I said was that his example was bad, nothing more. One of the big reasons why us humans can't tango with strong animals is the fact that they're so heavy; there's a lot of weight to throw around. Just because Spider-Man is strong doesn't mean Batman can't toss him around, either; the man is only 160 lbs. To properly apply his strength, he would need leverage.
Who cares if he hardly ever leaves New York? Do you know the crime that ravages through NYC in the MU? The FF (Fantasic Four) is stationed there. Spidey's currently a New Avenger there, work as a crimefighter there isn't hard to come by. Spidey is next to never left without anything to do right where he is.
You're not even paying attention. He said Batman was a town hero; he sticks to Gotham. Spider-Man usually sticks to NYC. What's your point here?
Peter going "huh?" as an excuse of his getting hit despite having the spider sense is a cheap way of trying to dismiss it, no offense. Usually there's no explanation as to his being hit by people slower than himself. Spidey's gone "huh?" plenty of times at the tingling of his spider sense because the danger that it was trying to Peter aware of had, up to that point, gone unseen. And even then, it's done nothing to stop Peter from leaping out of harm's way, if there is any, and I do mean any instance where it's been noted through a visual or a writer's note in the corner of some comic book panel that Spidey's questioning of the spider sense the instant it goes of has detered him of steering clear of trouble then I'll apologize despite the idea of it all reeking stupidity.
I only brought it up as to why Spidey gets hit sometimes, not as how Batman would sneak up on him. Quit putting words in my mouth.
Bats utilizing [EMP] requires prep time. Spidey could do the aforementioned (rip the armor) without planning of any sort.
Not necessarily. If he has it, he has it - no two ways around it. I said he might have an EMP device on him at all times, and quite frankly, it wouldn't surprise me if he did. The fact that it's a gadget doesn't mean it requires prep-time, nor does the fact that it's a device that could take down Iron Man mean that it's huge and therefore requires prep.