Batman vs Spiderman

Actually you did because you state your OPINION about Batman being BETTER at FIGHTING as if it is a fact carved in stone. It's a speculation at best because Spider-man has gone toe to toe with guys who would KILL Batman. Like Doc Ock. If Batman didn't KILL Ock first encounter, he would DIE second encounter.

Batman is a more skilled fighter. You bringing up Doc Ock is inconsequential at best, considering it's Ock's arms that he fights with. It's like saying Person B, who is the more skilled combatant, isn't as good a fighter because Person A shot him.

Nice try, but since Spider-Man is the faster one, the more agile one and the one who dodges attacks more easily than Batman, it's Spider-Man who kicks Batmans ass.

Not vice versa.

When written right, I really don't see Batman jumping all of a sudden on Spider-Man and surprise him using pressure points.

Spider-Man's reflexes, together with his spider-sense and agility, will make that SM is always one step ahead...

It's not impossible for Batman to get a hold of Spider-Man. Daredevil did it.

Hulk is very fast. Certainly faster than Batman. But did SM have a problem to hurt the Hulk? Nope.

Spider-Man being able to hurt the Hulk is just bad writing. Sorry. That is, unless you're saying his damage came from the ear-boxing, which could very well work against Spider-Man as well. As I said before, it's not impossible for non-enhanced humans with great training to tag Spidey.

I think wanderer is half half on this one, regardless, spiderman is still the larger threat up close.

I am. I only argue for Batman because Spidey fighting against him won't be as simple as many make it out to be. It's easy to argue for Spider-Man - he's the one with superpowers. But Batman? Try it sometime.

Originally posted by The MISTER
Actually you did because you state your OPINION about Batman being BETTER at FIGHTING as if it is a fact carved in stone. It's a speculation at best because Spider-man has gone toe to toe with guys who would KILL Batman. Like Doc Ock. If Batman didn't KILL Ock first encounter, he would DIE second encounter.

Batman being better at fighting than spiderman may not be fact carved in stone. But it is clearly obvious that batman is clearly the surpior fighter of the two. Case in point. Batman could not follow the movement of a martial artist... so he adapted by feeling the viabrations of the air around him to mount an effective counter. What is to stop him from using this technique against spiderman..... nothing that's what.🙂

And if you have Doc. Oct. lose to batman the first time, he is going to lose the second time. THIS FACT I CAN GUARANTE IS SET IN STONE. Becaue batman already knows how to defeat him.🙂

Originally posted by who?-kid
Nice try, but since Spider-Man is the faster one, the more agile one and the one who dodges attacks more easily than Batman, it's Spider-Man who kicks Batmans ass.

I beg to differ....spiderman might be the one dodging stuff more easily but the fact of the matter is that batman as been dodging stuff like that as well. But when he dodges machine gun fire and gun fire, sniper fire just as well this is a subject for debate. He may not have it easy but he dodges as well not to mension that suit of his. That adds a nice well rounded protection.

When written right, I really don't see Batman jumping all of a sudden on Spider-Man and surprise him using pressure points.

Pressure points are more of a deffensive technique if you ask me. And batman is more of a defensive kind of figher. And of couse we all know a good defense gives a better offense. And this is how batman is going to capitalize.

And of couse we all know a good defense gives a better offense.

Some argue it's the exact opposite. In reality, it's circumstantial.

Let's kill this, I know about pressure points and things well.

Batman is the "more skilled" fighter, Ive been over this before, but in an upclose fight, he would not prevail, with hand2 hand2, combat, this is like trying to go hand2hand with a wizard against an ADMANTINE golem,(if you can picture that).

However before I started combat training, I knew well many vital points, I figure anyone with an I.Q above 80 would. You can wactch fights and learn, that hits to the head, neck, and sternum, under the nose, and kidneys, can be fight ender's and even lethal attacks. Spiderman would be no exception. Batman's a good combatant, but he's pailed in comparison to any physically superior, compatant with only hand 2 hand, unless they are stupid. But still once you have the application and focus down, you become a fighter, and can modify the style the way you want, spiderman isn't tought at a dojo, but his suits him best. An imprecise attack from even a zen calm spidermna would be lethal, in the generall area, this guy has staggered the hulk, and other great feats of strength, is not dumb, and has a detection system that would let him take the fight up close with closed eyes. Could bruce lee beat spiderman, no, jet li, no. Theses guys, and batman, are great martial artists, but are still human, and are subject to the same things, I could list the things that could kill the artist with the highest of stamina.

Bottom line: who's the more skilled fighter, batman. Who's the most dangerous up close , and more efffective"spiderman" therefore the better fighter.

I agree with you Cordera. You make some really good points in your posts. I agree with you on every single thing you said.

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Originally posted by havok801125
now thats just crap writing....no offense but a mere human going toe to toe with the man of steel with no krytonite......

Batman wore a strength enhanced suit.

Yea, that was a stipulation, but someone tried to make it look like a normal feat..........

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Pressure points are more of a deffensive technique if you ask me. And batman is more of a defensive kind of figher. And of couse we all know a good defense gives a better offense. And this is how batman is going to capitalize.

Pressure points depend on what you are talking about. Strike points like the temple, are offensive, cause really no pain and can be fatal.

Nerve points, like under the nose or ears, are extremely painful, is meant to be presssed, used as a submission, they don't have to be struck to have an effect, because more nerve endings are there. However a strong blow under the nose is fatal, in a bad scenario.

Originally posted by Wanderer259
It's not impossible for Batman to get a hold of Spider-Man. Daredevil did it.

Spider-Man being able to hurt the Hulk is just bad writing.

I am. I only argue for Batman because Spidey fighting against him won't be as simple as many make it out to be. It's easy to argue for Spider-Man - he's the one with superpowers. But Batman? Try it sometime.

Originally posted by Wanderer259
Some argue it's the exact opposite. In reality, it's circumstantial.

Originally posted by who?-kid
I agree.

as do I

Spiderman confessed to knowing how to defeat the hulk.

He stressed and wore down another gamma charged character just like tahe hulk, after a long time the process of gamma reversed and he was able to defeat him. He had to used mental and physical on him. Hulk is schizophrenic

I think it would be very close, but i agree with cordera. Spidey would win. The only thing , though, in the one post near the top of the page, when you said "Could bruce lee beat spiderman, no, jet li, no. Theses guys, and batman, are great martial artists, but are still human, and are subject to the same things," Batman is smarter than Jet li and Bruce Lee, and Batman has all the gadgets. But still, i think SPidey would win. I think what gives him the edge is his Super-strength and Spider-sense.

Thank you Dan, we were just confirming up close prowress however.

Hey Cordy I agree with all your posts man, but you'll never convince some people like Mercilous who just get silly and take it all personally. 😄 But common sense will prevail 😄

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Batman being better at fighting than spiderman may not be fact carved in stone. But it is clearly obvious that batman is clearly the surpior fighter of the two. Case in point. Batman could not follow the movement of a martial artist... so he adapted by feeling the viabrations of the air around him to mount an effective counter. What is to stop him from using this technique against spiderman..... nothing that's what.

How is that case in point? That doesn't prove he's a better fighter at all. It's just labeling a technique Batman uses.

Spiderman can dodge a blow before Batman throws it. Does that make Spiderman a better fighter? No. But there is no way to prove that Batman is. It's just speculation. Is Batman better at martial arts? Yes, he's had formal training in it.

Does knowing martial arts = better fighter? Absolutely not.