Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Yes anybody can win with prep time but nobody does it the way batman can. Batman has the prep time thing patented if you want to use it you better pay the due. He did not get rich by passing out checks you know, even though he most inherited of his cash. Is a family business.
Yea imagine how spiderman would be with all those gadgets and money, peter's beaten villans, using equipment from a school.
Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Batman took a beating from darksied, darksied people not anyone but darksied, and all he has to show for it is a broken harm and a messed up face.
Think about what you just said, will that logically happen in a one on one fight between the 2, or can batman beat superman and lobo, one on one.
Originally posted by lifeisaglich
And you guys are telling me what ????? One punch and batman is down🙂 .
Absolutely positively. Look Below, at my previous point.
I've been over this, speed and velocity add to the damage, a bullet it is dangerous not for its size but for its velocity. Spiderman moves with superhuman speed and velocity and attacks from many angles in his fighting. He's broken concrete, adn ripped Iron mans 2020's armor, something batman could never do. Would you mess with someone in real life if he could lift cars with ease,and smash concrete.
Also area of damage and proficiency of attack count, any one with basic fighting knowledge, knows basic lethal hit areas, spiderman in a half calm mood, can fatally injure batman. He lifts 30000 lbs. batman is still a human.
Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Thanos is equal to Darksied when was the last time that spiderman faced him down Alone. Batman faced darksied his first time and got what he wanted granted he got his ass 😄 handed to him but people this is darksied.
Spiderman is at where no human will ever get on extreme training or practice. He is way beyond that, with precog. A human is still subject to high muscle density, weight, flexibility prohibited by strength, and easily accessible vital spots, which spiderman negates easily. A human is still a human and even thogh they do great odds, an accurate spiderman could easily fatally injure batman.
Can he beat titania too?
Originally posted by lifeisaglich
In-case I am lying as so many of you people are going to imply Superman batman # 13. For those of you who do not know this is a superman comic so brace your self. And in continuity.Superman batman # 12.Batman got eaten by some dragon dog or hound dogs or something.
Superman batman # 11. This is the one where the batman faced up against an army of doomdays. Granted they were defects of a clone they still sent superman flying out of thermiscira.
By K3Vil
"Following the assumptions of pathetic fanboys annoying in this topic, Batman can beat anyone cause he's trained to be the perfect human.
I'd like to see him facing Rhino or the Sinister Six or maybe Black Tarantula, just for the pleasure to see him dying.
Bane beat down Batman, Bane, who lift at max 5 tons.
Batman is gonna lose, but the fanboy powers are too much for Spider-Man, maybe even for Thanos."
Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Unless you are going to tell me that you see spiderman webbing the doomdays and giving them one Punch's to knock them out. Then you will be saying that Spiderman is stronger than Wonder-woman right??
Doomsday is superior to batman, and peter is smarter than wonderwoman.
Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Batman has never met darksied face to face before this moment and he still walked away (a first time meeting). This alone should prove that batman is the smartest of the two. Batman is not just book smart genius he is also street smart genius. Street smart enough to come up with Matches Malone (An Italian drug lord or something?)
Spiderman is nothing short of a genius, he matches bats in intelligence, but not in cunning. Spiderman is so much more than paper, adn its used as common sense against inaccurate writing catering to fanboys. The moral is not to believe everything you read.
Spiderman is resourceful enough to hang with batman, and easily is more resourceful than wolverine, too much emphasis is on fighting skill. Wolverine is cut and cut better once I'm mad, he's spoiled by his healing, and doesn't use really anything special, its application, not just knowledge.
Spiderman is super dextrous and intelligent, therefore making him more skillful, and is harder to guard against in a fight.
U don't use those points as evidence all the time do you??
Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Power, reflexes, agility, do you guys want to rethink your one punch knock out. 😆 ahahahahahah
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Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Yea imagine how spiderman would be with all those gadgets and money, peter's beaten villans, using equipment from a school.
Yea...imagine how batman would be with superpowers. He would be too overpowering considering his training in martial arts. And batman has defeated villians using the equitment in his tool belt.....what's your point.😆
Originally posted byCorderaMitchell
Think about what you just said, will that logically happen in a one on one fight between the 2, or can batman beat superman and lobo, one on one.[Quote]Well batman has shown that he is able to hold his own aganist superman. Case in point.....Superman:Red sun (I think) ...In case you thought I moved around your question....Superman Red sun is a comic where the two clashed but thanks to wonder woman superman won. And ask for lobo...batman will deal with him the same as he has dealted with every power house he has ever come across. OUTSMARTING THEM.
Now if mean can batman stand toe to toe...that is human strength vs. superhuman strength....then NO.
[Quote]Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Absolutely positively. Look Below, at my previous point.I've been over this, speed and velocity add to the damage, a bullet it is dangerous not for its size but for its velocity. Spiderman moves with superhuman speed and velocity and attacks from many angles in his fighting. He's broken concrete, adn ripped Iron mans 2020's armor, something batman could never do. Would you mess with someone in real life if he could lift cars with ease,and smash concrete.
First off I will like to call to attension that while velosity is a factor when dealing with bullets. You need to also understand that this analogy is only half true. The structure of the bullet and how dense it is plays a great deal. For if it wasn't we will have no need for armor percing bullets. You know why because the velocity at which a normal bullet will be traveling is not going to be enough to menetrate the armor....See.
Thanks to batman's training he can go through mortar walls, and concrete. And lets not bring in how inexperience our Iron man 2020 is when skill comes in to question. If skill was not the reason why spiderman ripped off that armor...what was it then. Strength?? Because if strength is your answer....well...you have to know that Ironman's strength greatly out ranks spiderman.🙂
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Also area of damage and proficiency of attack count, any one with basic fighting knowledge, knows basic lethal hit areas, spiderman in a half calm mood, can fatally injure batman. He lifts 30000 lbs. batman is still a human.
So someone with just basic fighting knowledge knows at least 5 to 10 ways to killing someone. Then batman probably knows at least an infinite number of ways to kill someone. 30000 lbs...🙂.... strength is not the deciding factor when faced with an experienced martial artist.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Spiderman is at where no human will ever get on extreme training or practice. He is way beyond that, with precog. A human is still subject to high muscle density, weight, flexibility prohibited by strength, and easily accessible vital spots, which spiderman negates easily. A human is still a human and even thogh they do great odds, an accurate spiderman could easily fatally injure batman.Can he beat titania too?
With all your talk about humans not reaching the level of spiderman even with extreme martial art training...has put a smile on my face....because I remember a Kid.. initials are...KK...full name Karate Kid. the kid is human. And with only his Karate he is going to put Spiderman in his place...🙂
And of couse your speculation is correct...an accurate shot from any of the people batman fights can easily injure batman or kill him.
You think adding a smiley to all your points makes you look smarter or something?
Thanks to batman's training he can go through mortar walls, and concrete. And lets not bring in how inexperience our Iron man 2020 is when skill comes in to question. If skill was not the reason why spiderman ripped off that armor...what was it then. Strength?? Because if strength is your answer....well...you have to know that Ironman's strength greatly out ranks spiderman.
Because you know, how strong Ironman is has a lot to do with how well his suit was actually put together. I fail to see the connection. 😖mart:
So someone with just basic fighting knowledge knows at least 5 to 10 ways to killing someone. Then batman probably knows at least an infinite number of ways to kill someone. 30000 lbs....... strength is not the deciding factor when faced with an experienced martial artist.
Martial arts are not a deciding factor when dealing with someone that strong. 😖mart: Saying Spiderman has basic fighting knowledge is ignorant. He's been in countrless battles and honed his fighting skills over many years. Just because he doesn't use martial arts doesn't mean he only has basic fighting knowledge.
With all your talk about humans not reaching the level of spiderman even with extreme martial art training...has put a smile on my face....because I remember a Kid.. initials are...KK...full name Karate Kid. the kid is human. And with only his Karate he is going to put Spiderman in his place...And of couse your speculation is correct...an accurate shot from any of the people batman fights can easily injure batman or kill him.
Yeah and KK is a universely trained martial artist. He's learned techniques across the galaxy from many different species and has been proven to perform super human feats. Batman has trouble benching 600 pounds. So I guess Batman better get a new mentor or something because his chi definately isn't doing him any favors. For the record, KK does not only use "Karate". 😖mart:
An assessment of how I see it.
Intelligence/Tech
There are different kinds of intelligence. Spidey has the edge in booksmarts, he's a bit of a boy genius when it comes to chemistry and physics. (Expert biochemists, material engineers etc have not managed to design any artificial material with the tensile strength of spider silk) Not that well versed in Batman, but how much of his tech does he actually personally design and how much of it does he acquire through his company or otherwise?
Batman does have the edge in cunning and battle strategics. As well as a brilliant problem solving mind, and he is very resourceful. Those are his forte as a detective. Batman also has a considerable wealth of resources behind him.
Physical Combat
First I gotta point out that the physical properties that would determine the amount of damage a punch would inflict would be mass and acceleration other than that I agree with the fact that Spidey's punches pack more of a wallop than Batman's due to his speed of movement (and because he is just stronger).
Batman may have trained for years and years but at most he is at peak human physical fitness. Spider-Man is more than human. He has superhuman (therefore greater than any human could achieve) reflexes, agility, strength etc. As stated he has vocational experience, on the job training in the Big Apple.
Powers
Spider-Man has them Batman doesn't, (other than the power of imagination which we all have 😄) his extrasensory abilities give him an added edge that no amount of Batman's training derived unagi can compensate for.
It's a tough fight but Spidey takes it in the end.
Orginally posted by CorderaMitchell
By K3Vil
"Following the assumptions of pathetic fanboys annoying in this topic, Batman can beat anyone cause he's trained to be the perfect human.
I'd like to see him facing Rhino or the Sinister Six or maybe Black Tarantula, just for the pleasure to see him dying.
Bane beat down Batman, Bane, who lift at max 5 tons.
Batman is gonna lose, but the fanboy powers are too much for Spider-Man, maybe even for Thanos
I do not make assumptions...will this help....Superman/batman issue # 2 batman is punched by ticked off superman from the future. Lex Luthor: Man of steel issue # 3 superman under the control of red kryptonite beats up batman....scary isn't it.🙂
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Doomsday is superior to batman, and peter is smarter than wonderwoman.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Spiderman is nothing short of a genius, he matches bats in intelligence, but not in cunning. Spiderman is so much more than paper, adn its used as common sense against inaccurate writing catering to fanboys. The moral is not to believe everything you read.
Spiderman a genius, I got no arguments in this department. Spiderman as Intelligence as batman... you keep telling yourself that. If I should not believe what I read then what should I believe? Remember this is comics where the impossible is always so possible.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Spiderman is super dextrous and intelligent, therefore making him more skillful, and is harder to guard against in a fight.
Batman survived a punched from a ticked of superman from the future and a beating from a superman under the control of red kryptonite. If he survived that I am sure he is going to survive a super dextrous and intelligent spiderman. I know common sense says that he should not have survived but he did thanks to his suit.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
U don't use those points as evidence all the time do you??
My friend why do I need to... when they are so....easily countered.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Here's a token for your time into that response
In response to your response...right back at ya...🙂
This is a random pick-up battle where they meet on the street. I'll say it again, "Batman being able to outsmart Spider-Man is a pickup battle is personal speculation." They've both done amazing feats to outsmart villains in the heat of battle. So it's not "fact".
As for Peter's intelligence. Hank Pym who is smarter than Batman recently stated that he believed Peter Parker was smarter than he was.
Spiderman designed Spider Tracers that interacted with his spider sense when he was a teenager. Parker also made web shooters as a teenager etc...He'll probably start making more gadgets now if recent issues are hinting at anything.
As for your three questions, the answer is simple, Bruce Wayne inherited a trust fund worth billions and Spiderman didn't. Parker has always nickled and dimed it. He can't even afford his own apartment.
1. Does he have the money to add armor plating and missles to a brand new car that will probably get destroyed?
2. Does he have a limitless budget to experiment with all that weaponry?
3. Yes. It's called the Avengers tower. Does he need it? Probably not.
Do you even know what Spiderman's abilities are?