Originally posted by Max Spidey 24
I hope you aint talking about the cartoon
In the case of batman JLA OR JL..I am but he has also done thrown them batarangs is matter of seconds too in the comics....
Ask for green goblin....tell me if the goblin has anything that is meant to incapacitate his opponents...oh yeah he has them gases too that he chucks at spiderman....but the green goblin has more exploding toys than he does incapacitating ones.
In the Cartoon random losers beat batman while Batman beat Gods . I dont get it .
😆 that is entainment for yah....
Also If Spidey goes up close in Bats face what the heck Bats going to do throw explosive batrangs or gas that he will inhale as well.
Batman is going to try and distance himself from spiderman...he might chuck a granade or gas if it will keep spiderman way...spiderman is going to move back.. I say batman does not do things that he is not prepared for...but the bulk of the matter is batman is going to do everything he can to keep his distance away from spiderman because he does not know what spiderman is capable of....yet..
Originally posted by lifeisaglichMight not wanna use cartoons. In the 1st episode of JL, Batman got his a$$ kicked by an alien dog that crawled up walls. 🙂
In the case of batman JLA OR JL..I am but he has also done thrown them batarangs is matter of seconds too in the comics....
Originally posted by jinzinYou have? Did you give a reason why Batman was able to hit Capt. Marvel so hard he turned back into Billy(You brought that up as evidence for Bats)? Did you give a reason why Batman & Nightwing were able beat an Amazo(You brought that up as evidence for Bats)? Do YOU think these are examples of bad writing? Please answer me.
figures, the first post I make on here in a long time and automatically it all gets discarded as bad writing. cordera, you say you want a better argument then "he can" for most things I've already given reasons for why batman can do the things he can do as have many others....
Originally posted by jinzinAllow me to clear something up just in case there's any confusion. Wonder Woman's like class 100 right? If she punches me in the face that's a class 100 punch right? Not neccessarily. If she punches me with all her might, THAT'S a class 100 punch. If she punches me with the intent to merely knock me to the ground, I’m not gonna get up and say, “Wow! I just took a class 100 punch and didn’t pass out! I’m the f**king man!” It’s obvious that if Bats wasn’t wearing some exxxxxxxxxtra heavy-duty armor that a full on-punch from Darkseid, Supes, or WW would logically kill him. Bullets shattered the plates in his armor. Are you saying they can’t do waaaaay more damage than a bullet? Think.
however when you guys simply discredit consistant showings of a character you do nothing but make a "no he can't" argument...which is just hypocritical...no offense but really....Anyways....I find it interesting how much of the rest of the forum uses feats as evidence for situations....now I've given you guys several examples of batman taking class 10 punches to the face without his suit...several examples of batman taking farrrrrr above class 10 punches with the suit and yet all of these occasions simply don't count because YOU'VE deemed them to be crap writing?
Originally posted by jinzinDoes DStroke boast class 50 strength? He’s KOed Bats before. Batman’s survival is essential in selling Batman comics. Agree?
nuh-uh. sorry but you're opinion on the quality of the material presented isn't what makes the material in question count or not.....sorry but batman's been presented as a character who can consistantly go up against people who farrrr outclass him in physical statistics, he's been presented as a character who's consistantly been hit by people boasting over class 50 strength and survived....so let me ask you guys. How many times does a hero have to do something until it's a proven fact that they can?
<<<-You have? Did you give a reason why Batman was able to hit Capt. Marvel so hard he turned back into Billy(You brought that up as evidence for Bats)? Did you give a reason why Batman & Nightwing were able beat an Amazo(You brought that up as evidence for Bats)? Do YOU think these are examples of bad writing? Please answer me.->>>>
lifesaglitch already did about amazo.....about captain marvel......a kick that can rend through a 3 foot thick living tree should be able to hurt someone at a pressure point that would otherwise kill the opponent outright....in any case....captain marvel was slightly worn down due to his fight with superman...but in the same token batman was slightly worn down due to his fight with hawkman....crap writing? maybe...it depends on the person reading the material.....deeming something as crap isn't a solid argument.....for example....everyone...EVERYONE thought that deathstroke hitting flash was past the point of ridiculous and called it bad writing....however...after it was proven with a more consistant amount of similar feats than that one time...more and more people gradually began to accept the matter of the fact...general concensus went from "crap writing" to "it's believable" in about 5 months...proving that crap writing is a matter of opinion not fact....and that opionion is subject to change..
<<<<"Allow me to clear something up just in case there's any confusion. Wonder Woman's like class 100 right? If she punches me in the face that's a class 100 punch right? Not neccessarily. If she punches me with all her might, THAT'S a class 100 punch. If she punches me with the intent to merely knock me to the ground, I’m not gonna get up and say, “Wow! I just took a class 100 punch and didn’t pass out! I’m the f**king man!” It’s obvious that if Bats wasn’t wearing some exxxxxxxxxtra heavy-duty armor that a full on-punch from Darkseid, Supes, or WW would logically kill him. Bullets shattered the plates in his armor. Are you saying they can’t do waaaaay more damage than a bullet? Think.">>>>
this however does not take away from that fact that these characters even holding back a TON of their power are still capible of hitting harder than spiderman....in any case...the amazon...certainly wasn't holding back.....for all the good it did her....🙄
and when have bullets rend through his armor?
I've seen batman take a full clip to the chest, walk through the gunfire and one punch KO the guy on the other side of the firearm...
batman's also taken point blank shotgun buckshots to the torso and just kept comin....
spiderman.....he's been shot once and died.....
<<<-Does DStroke boast class 50 strength? He’s KOed Bats before. Batman’s survival is essential in selling Batman comics. Agree?->>>
as does spidey's....moote point....here's a relivent one however.....deathstrokes speed, presicion, and incredible skill allow him to go face to face with wonder woman and take it to her in a fist fight...knocking batman out WHILE BATMAN'S NOT FIGHTING BACK (as he was trying to talk to ds.........coming from deathsroke really isn't something to be ashamed of.....
Originally posted by jinzin
[Bfor example....everyone...EVERYONE thought that deathstroke hitting flash was past the point of ridiculous and called it bad writing....however...after it was proven with a more consistant amount of similar feats than that one time...more and more people gradually began to accept the matter of the fact...general concensus went from "crap writing" to "it's believable" in about 5 months...proving that crap writing is a matter of opinion not fact....and that opionion is subject to change.. [/B]
Or yah know you COULD just be taking the worst moments of crap writing for the sole purpose of supporting your point completely ignoring the other 95% of the time he fights and basically dicking people for no good god damn reason
clarify that please
whatever..
I just can't stand how every time a point is brought up that either nullifies spiderman's offense...or puts him in danger of being threatened...the point is instantly deduced to be crap writing....pfffft...seriously..if everything impressive that batman has ever done is crap writing...why bother arguing against the character...you guys are arguing against the character for how you think he SHOULD be...instead of how he is.....
well theoritically speaking yes he could....the thing is...it's far more likely he'd get gassed before he got the chance...or worse....miss...I mean he missed hitting a random judo expert due to lack of skilled h2h fighting ability....batman's one of the top h2h fighters in DC earth.... so it's also very likely batman would anticipate the attack and counter it....
in any case batman took multiple class 10 punches to the face without his body suit on and survived because he knew exactly how to roll with the punches....