Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
the ones where spiderman wasn't fighting his best, the stalemate, or the one's where he doesn't have his full abiliites.
😄
Originally posted by jinzin
of course it's a part of obtaining a victory but it doesn't help offensively....and ask the aliens? what the hell? batman's the only one here who's fought the aliens...and kicked their collective asses...
I'm not talking about those ailens, and he didn't do it alone.
Originally posted by jinzin
Yet also flash gets hits more than batman, not fair eh?
Who moves near light speed?
Originally posted by jinzin
if you had all those powers and you were fighting batman........that's debeatable.....
No its not at all, just like having a gun against a normal person.
Or you having bats powers versus spiderman.
<<<<"But spiderman has better travel, adn dodging.">>>>
Originally posted by jinzin
better travel? WTF is that even supposed to mean? 😕 better dodging? ummmm no...he has an early warning system that allows him to keep from being sneaked up on.....however dodging.....that's fair game for either party....
He can get around and away faster, and dodging is spidermans, use common sense on that one, bats is not a better dodger, explain why he would be, considering spiderman is one of the best dodgers around. Precog and reflexes and speed help ALOT, obviously.
Originally posted by jinzin
do you even read batman?
Does batman make his own equipment, no.
Originally posted by jinzin
god I hope not....
why?
Originally posted by who?-kid
I'll tell you a secret : Wolverine never had a clear victory over Spider-Man. Neither did Spider-Man, I agree, but saying that Wolverine beat SM on numerous occasions, is wishful thinking.😄
They were stalemates, as with all crossovers basically, not a good source of evidence at all, just a cash cow.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You misunderstand the difference between pressure and force. Pressure is the force divided by an area, the high pressure of a punch is due to the small area of a fist. A car definitely impacts with more force and causes a much larger transfer of momentum.It's the transfer of momentum from the moving body, the moving vehicle, to the stationary body, the person, that causes damage. Since total momentum is conserved in an isolated system if the car stops it loses its large momentum then the person gains it. Their masses do not change so the person undergoes a large increase in speed i.e. acceleration and therefore force.
[B]If a non superpowered person could punch with the force of a speeding car then they should be able to stop a speeding car by punching it.
Batman does not have the "damage of a car wreck" behind each and every one of his punches. [/B]
hm I get what you're saying...but I'm definitely positive batman can apply the same amount of force or greater into a concentrated area....if real world martial artists far below peak human levels can....why can't batman?
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
This is silly about the ice, its all about equal and direct force. The men who break so easily shards of ice, would never bread a plastic bag of water of the same size, with a punch.
like how spiderman can't decimate a human frame although he punches threw brick walls right?
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
the ones where spiderman wasn't fighting his best, the stalemate, or the one's where he doesn't have his full abiliites.
yeah cause spiderman obviously said he wasn't fighting his best OR had his full abilities... 🙄 more like the ones where wolverine did exactly what I said he did and you guys don't like it...
Originally posted by who?-kid
I'll tell you a secret : Wolverine never had a clear victory over Spider-Man. Neither did Spider-Man, I agree, but saying that Wolverine beat SM on numerous occasions, is wishful thinking.😄
cause all those punches to the face from a claws sheathed wolverine definitely indicate that spiderman stands a chance when they're out....oh wait...no he doesn't the one time they WERE out when wolverine hit him..spidey got KOed...so much for that theory...nice try though..
<<<"I'm not talking about those ailens, and he didn't do it alone.">>>
and the alien vs. marine argument came from what source again?
<<<"No its not at all, just like having a gun against a normal person.">>>
batman's a normal person right? people try to use guns against him all the time right? and they always beat batman right?
WRONG
<<<"He can get around and away faster, and dodging is spidermans, use common sense on that one, bats is not a better dodger, explain why he would be, considering spiderman is one of the best dodgers around. Precog and reflexes and speed help ALOT, obviously.">>>
let me re-clarify this since it blew over your head the 1st time...spidey can't be caught of gaurd by gun fire due to spider sense. batman however doesn't have one....HOWEVER when batman DOES know where incoming fire is coming from he dodges it just as easily as spidey....another example is spiderman or batman against the Hulk....spiderman is able to avoid hulk for a while...batman did the same damn thing....they're the same in dodging ability....spiderman just can't be caught off gaurd...in a 1 on 1 fight, unless spiderman's sneaking up on bruce..they're ability to dodge things will be near equal...
<<<"Does batman make his own equipment, no.">>>
so that was a NO to my question then............lol......now I see how credible you really are...you probably don't read batman comics at all then...you must be arguing against movie cartoon bats....
Originally posted by jinzin
<<<"I'm not talking about those ailens, and he didn't do it alone.">>>and the alien vs. marine argument came from what source again?
<<<"No its not at all, just like having a gun against a normal person.">>>
batman's a normal person right? people try to use guns against him all the time right? and they always beat batman right?
WRONG
<<<"He can get around and away faster, and dodging is spidermans, use common sense on that one, bats is not a better dodger, explain why he would be, considering spiderman is one of the best dodgers around. Precog and reflexes and speed help ALOT, obviously.">>>
let me re-clarify this since it blew over your head the 1st time...spidey can't be caught of gaurd by gun fire due to spider sense. batman however doesn't have one....HOWEVER when batman DOES know where incoming fire is coming from he dodges it just as easily as spidey....another example is spiderman or batman against the Hulk....spiderman is able to avoid hulk for a while...batman did the same damn thing....they're the same in dodging ability....spiderman just can't be caught off gaurd...in a 1 on 1 fight, unless spiderman's sneaking up on bruce..they're ability to dodge things will be near equal...
<<<"Does batman make his own equipment, no.">>>
so that was a NO to my question then............lol......now I see how credible you really are...you probably don't read batman comics at all then...you must be arguing against movie cartoon bats....
Originally posted by willRules
Um you are talking about the amount of pressure Batman can apply assuming he can get near to Spidey, who can literally run circles around him.This would be a fairer fight if Batman had the Bat-mobile............... 😂
cause spidey so easily runs circles around everyone he ever fights...like shang chi!
oh wait no.....
what about iron fist?
...ummmm nope....
OH okay how about punisher?...y---yeah...oh wait...no...🙁.......
wolverine?
nu-uh......
captain america?............no...🙁...................
daredevil?..........ummmmm yeah! oh.....wait...................no nevermind......
the white ninja?
nope....