Batman vs Spiderman

Originally posted by 8bitChris
Are people still trying to bring crossovers into continuity? come on that is BS.

I supposed anyone on Marvel Earth could just hop over to Gotham whenever they wanted. It's only a fifteen minute drive away.

funny thing...spidey supporters had no problem using the crossover to say "this fight happened and spiderman kicked batman's ass without even trying"...THEN when I brought up how spiderman didn't win a fight cause there was no actual fight....it automatically turned into an invalid tool for debate...hmmmmmmmmmm

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Who? because I tried to stop using them a while ago. You and Merc wouldn't stop, so I started again.

it wasn't just you man.....I am of course reffering towards the earlier 50% of this thread...

Originally posted by jinzin
how the **** should I know how it works I didn't make the damned suit....
you asked what would have happened had the problem persisted....that's my take on what would have happened...yours is obviously different...none of the chances the fact that batman basically curbstomped his face into the pavement though does it?.

Originally posted by jinzin
we've already given multiple reasons for why or how batman would be able to do such....if your inability to either read or accept the theories as they are is a problem...all I have to say is at least it's not our problem....

............how come everytime someone thinks that someone can beat spidey they are a fanboy of whoever it is vs. spidey at the moment....and when they provide multiple examples of proof to support a claim...EVERY LAST EXAMPLE is PIS/CIS.... but everytime spiderman does something great.....

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Originally posted by jinzin
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t358225.html

like batman's NEVER beaten opponents exponentially greater than himself without prep...

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Cresh already thinks bats loses, but his love for jinzin keeps him coming.

These guys like to use the spiderman that has problems with kingpin.

Lets use the spiderman that gave thor, firelord, and titania trouble.

Spiderman's second class villans are a greater threat.

The funny thing is my fanboy test proved this well, not only did noone think these two would beat spiderman, they gave good reasons, not coolness arguments.

Originally posted by jinzin
let me ask you something....how many senses can you simply TURN OFF?
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sight? no....hearing? ummm no....smell? nu-uh......touch?...that's a no.....taste?....NADA!
yet spidey can turn off his spider SENSE?
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either that orrrrrrrr he can't dodge everything....

Originally posted by jinzin
spiderman hitting all out....put logan's head through a tombstone with repeated blows (hitting away like a jackhammer)

Originally posted by brainchild81
The world's smallest violin plays just for Jinzin. Come on dude. Nobody's trying to say that all Batman's stuff is PIS/CIS. I'm saying you seem to be unable to see PIS/CIS when even big time DC or Batfans see it. The fact that you brought up this

Yeah right...one of the reasons this thread has gone this far is because of the PIS/CIS...that everything that batman does is either PIS/CIS...So now you are here to tell us and every new comer to this thread that Spiderman defenders never tried to justify the this things that batman done to either PIS/CIS.....please if you wanted to be more accurate you could have said some and instead of nobody

Find a post where somebody from the Spidey Wins side says something like "all Batman's stuff is PIS/CIS". Quote it and list the page number my good youngster.

Originally posted by brainchild81
I also asked you to explain why and how Bats won in the book. I wanna see if you think Joker had nothing to do with it even when the writers tried to make that clear. I can't see why this is still a matter of discussion. I figured you might have read up on Batman and his one time only failsafe. Don't be so defensive

The world's smallest violin plays just for Jinzin. Come on dude. Nobody's trying to say that all Batman's stuff is PIS/CIS. I'm saying you seem to be unable to see PIS/CIS when even big time DC or Batfans see it. The fact that you brought up this Shows clearly what I'm talking about. Read the thread and read the scans. 1. He had help so this means little to our debate. 2. Even with that help he still shouldn't be able to blow pieces off of somebody with Supes powers @ all. That was bulls**t. If you read that and think "Wow that makes perfect sense", I don't think you're qualified for debating. No offense. Cresh is honestly one of the better debators speaking for Batman here. I'm forced to respect him.

it actually has to do with this fight more than you think....

1. batman was able to harm a foe multitude stronger than himself or spider for that matter...

2. batman was able to easily use his batmobile to secure a victory where victory off his assets alone where slim.

3. he took a hit from someone multitudes stronger than himself or spidey again and he was fine...again.

and 4. he was able to keep pace with someone who had every physical attribute to his advantage like spidey does....AND win....

I don't care if you think I'm not qualified for debating because I don't choose to run and hide behind the pis argument...it really doesn't matter what you think on the issue..if I'm so inept maybe you should just ignore me....

Originally posted by brainchild81
I don't remember saying "cut off". Take the goggles off please. 🙂 Click the link in my sig Jinzin, then go to the last page of it. Oh yeah and Spidey's a good deal stronger than that now.

😂 the fisrt page in that link completely supports what I've been saying all along...he reacts to ALL forms of danger at various levels...obviously his spidersense wasn't enough to compensate for wolverine's hit...lol...."thanks for the ammo"

p.s. we are either debating current spidey or we are not....

Originally posted by jinzin
😂 the fisrt page in that link completely supports what I've been saying all along...he reacts to ALL forms of danger at various levels...obviously his spidersense wasn't enough to compensate for wolverine's hit...lol...."thanks for the ammo"

Originally posted by jinzin

p.s. we are either debating current spidey or we are not....

Originally posted by jinzin
it actually has to do with this fight more than you think....

1. batman was able to harm a foe multitude stronger than himself or spider for that matter...

2. batman was able to easily use his batmobile to secure a victory where victory off his assets alone where slim.

3. he took a hit from someone multitudes stronger than himself or spidey again and he was fine...again.

and 4. he was able to keep pace with someone who had every physical attribute to his advantage like spidey does....AND win....

I don't care if you think I'm not qualified for debating because I don't choose to run and hide behind the pis argument...it really doesn't matter what you think on the issue..if I'm so inept maybe you should just ignore me....

you just asked me to read through 3 pages of immediate contradictory material...THEN you tell me about bad writing?

lol

batman won because he was able to outmaneuver, out strategize, and out think his oponent.... he was able to capitalize on every single small advantage he could and he took the win....

I recoginize PIS CIS...i don't know how many times I have to say that..the ONLY DIFFERENCE between you and myself is...I don't completely discard it. It's a life experience in the life of a fictional character, whether or not I recognize it as PIS/CIS is irrelivent....the reason I choose to accept it however is because IT HAS HAPPENED IN HIS LIFE....thus he at one point had the capability to do it, thus the possibility of his ability to do it again is now open to discussion.

Simply because a large amount of people disagree with the material given to us..that does not make the material invalid, majority opinion and general consensus do not always negotiate fact....like it was said before....most of the world thought earth was flat...one person didn't.....most of the world thought the sun revolved around the earth..one didnt....etc..etc....

Originally posted by jinzin
you just asked me to read through 3 pages of immediate contradictory material...THEN you tell me about bad writing?

lol
batman won because he was able to outmaneuver, out strategize, and out think his oponent.... he was able to capitalize on every single small advantage he could and he took the win....

Originally posted by jinzin
I recoginize PIS CIS...i don't know how many times I have to say that..the ONLY DIFFERENCE between you and myself is...I don't completely discard it. It's a life experience in the life of a fictional character, whether or not I recognize it as PIS/CIS is irrelivent....the reason I choose to accept it however is because IT HAS HAPPENED IN HIS LIFE....thus he at one point had the capability to do it, thus the possibility of his ability to do it again is now open to discussion.

Simply because a large amount of people disagree with the material given to us..that does not make the material invalid, majority opinion and general consensus do not always negotiate fact....like it was said before....most of the world thought earth was flat...one person didn't.....most of the world thought the sun revolved around the earth..one didnt....etc..etc....

You guys are saying Bats would win cos he is a great strategist, well if your opponent can dodge bullets because he is fast enough to do so, plus hes got a Spider-sense, then Bats aint gonna have much time to use his tactics. Bats has beat Superman, but he had Prep. He beat the Hulk but 1) Crossover storys are rubbish examples and 2) Bats had time during the encounter to work out how to beat him. Against Spidey, Bats dont have enough time.

Originally posted by willRules
You guys are saying Bats would win cos he is a great strategist, well if your opponent can dodge bullets because he is fast enough to do so, plus hes got a Spider-sense, then Bats aint gonna have much time to use his tactics. Bats has beat Superman, but he had Prep. He beat the Hulk but 1) Crossover storys are rubbish examples and 2) Bats had time during the encounter to work out how to beat him. Against Spidey, Bats dont have enough time.

Batman is a great strategist, and the reason this is not up for debate is because batman soundly outclasses spiderman in this department. Spiderman can dodge but what if your opponent can also dodge bullets as well plus he does it without any kind of help but by the skills he gained over the years. A person who is this good and cheats would most certainly have a plan 99.99999999% of the time.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Find a post where somebody from the Spidey Wins side says something like "all Batman's stuff is PIS/CIS". Quote it and list the page number my good youngster.

So you are going to tell me that no spiderman fan have never called most of the things that batman have done as PIS/CIS to justify why it would not count in this batman vs. spiderman match??

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Spiderman can dodge but what if your opponent can also dodge bullets as well plus he does it without any kind of help but by the skills he gained over the years.

Spidey has dodged bullets without his spider-sense but with his speed. Think of it as a back up.

please....*hack*....*cough*.....please let this thread die...jinzin will never say spidey wins....brainchild will never say batman can win....why do we go on......*dies from the raw agression being shot back and forth on the thread*

Batman fans

Spider-Man fans

who wins? 😕

Originally posted by jinzin
and I have yet to see someone come up with a good reason for why bat's can't just smack spidey around with his high pitch sonic frequincy emiter.....maybe it's cause you guys don't have one......

I've got a good reason .....webbing.....whats to say spidey can't spray some around his ears to muffle the sound?......I mean there has got to be a way to negate the sonics or else bats would sucumb to the effects as well.....

Also in the same vein I'VE yet to see someone come up with a reason why spidey can't rip batmans armour off.....I mean the dudes got sticky hands for pete's sake plus webbing which he can use just as effectively......

and one more thing you guys have been mentioning bats wide ranging attack.....what about spideys?.....he can deploy his webbing pretty effectively like a net......sure bats may pull out a batrang to cut it or acid but this would take some time.....time which spidey would use to come in close and finish this match

Originally posted by havok801125
I've got a good reason .....webbing.....whats to say spidey can't spray some around his ears to muffle the sound?......I mean there has got to be a way to negate the sonics or else bats would sucumb to the effects as well.....

Also in the same vein I'VE yet to see someone come up with a reason why spidey can't rip batmans armour off.....I mean the dudes got sticky hands for pete's sake plus webbing which he can use just as effectively......

and one more thing you guys have been mentioning bats wide ranging attack.....what about spideys?.....he can deploy his webbing pretty effectively like a net......sure bats may pull out a batrang to cut it or acid but this would take some time.....time which spidey would use to come in close and finish this match

Thats similar to what Ive been saying. Bats is too slow..........compared to spidey. Maybe bats can dodge bullets but he has human speed, Spidey has superhuman speed...........

This again??