Look, Spidey is much faster and stronger than Batman is.
But Batman is a much smarter and much much more seasoned fighter than Spiderman is.
I happen to believe the latter wins.
What's humorous is that these are even the principals that martials arts teaches you. Martial arts that Batman knows. 😉
Speed and strength are only AIDS in fighting.
Originally posted by Juntai
Nothing like stuff other people have, like no super abnormal fears of fire like Martian Manhunter or anything, but when speaking of weakness, at least on my part, it's meant in weakness in attack... or nievity.... compared to Batman's training in combat martial arts and knowing every limit for his body, EVERY punch or kick or move Spiderman made would be considered inferior despite his Superness making up for it. Likewise, if I throw a punch, and an old chinese man . . . how about Wing Tsung Inventor... Great Grandmaster Leung Ting.... who's half my size and strength throws a punch, but he's trained a lifetime of martial arts . .. I can punch a guy out, but he can punch through concrete or 1-inch momentum punch the guy 10 feet and crack several ribs.
With concentration and application beyond that of which spiderman would need.
Do you know what proificiency is?
Originally posted by Juntai
lol, so now [b]you're the one going "but but but but. . .I saw Spidey do [so and so]" now?
Weren't you just criticising me for that? [/B]
When did I say that to you? I probably could've, I'm really tired right now. But I don't recall it.
All I'm saying is that there isn't anything that Batman can do that would allow him to win in the slightest. Spiderman takes this 10/10.
Originally posted by Juntai
Look, Spidey is much faster and stronger than Batman is.
But Batman is a much smarter and much much more seasoned fighter than Spiderman is.I happen to believe the latter wins.
What's humorous is that these are even the principals that martials arts teaches you. Martial arts that Batman knows. 😉
Speed and strength are only AIDS in fighting.
Okay then, you can go beat up a polar bear?
You are smarter, and a more skilled fighter, right?
Technique is an AIDE, who's to say what technique is better.
Batman can't keep up, this is what matters most in fights.
Durability, speed, then skill.
If I can't hurt it I lose
If I can't touch it I lose.
If I can't get a hit in I lose.
"Look, Spidey is much faster and stronger than Batman is.
But Batman is a much smarter and much much more seasoned fighter than Spiderman is."
Ok then stop saying Batmans punch do as much damage as one of Spiderman. When someone is alot weaker that isent going to happen.
About much smarter. No he isent. Seasoned fighter? Both are comparable, Spidey knows how to use his superior physical stats and Bats knows how to use his superior hand to hand skills.
"Speed and strength are only AIDS in fighting."
And in this case when one of them connects Bats hes down for the game. Its more likely to happen that, than the other way around.
Originally posted by Juntai
Ahh, it's not that I'm an all out Batman fan, I've read most DC comics that they've put out in the last 20 years, and sparingly Marvel too, mostly just the crisis' for them though. Like onslaught, Secret wars, etc.
I wasn't pointing out names or anything, but the people here listen more, go to a wolvie thread...
Has anyone ever seen that Martial artist movie..I think its called the "The Iron Rule"(I might be wrong however)
Some martial artists went up against a bunch of british people with guns..guess who one? Let me give you a hint..the british guys with guns.
FYI "Real world" martial artists aren't fast enough to dodge a bullets, stop speeding cars with their punches, or kick down trees with ki strikes.
Just wanted to point that out, cause many in here seem to be using "real world logic" to justify the "peak human" arguments, however, they fail to realize that this directly contradicts their "comic book" logic arguments.
Originally posted by whobdamandog
Has anyone ever seen that Martial artist movie..I think its called the "The Iron Rule"(I might be wrong however)Some martial artists went up against a bunch of british people with guns..guess who one? Let me give you a hint..the british guys with guns.
FYI "Real world" martial artists aren't fast enough to dodge a bullets, stop speeding cars with their punches, or kick down trees with ki strikes.
Just wanted to point that out, cause many in here seem to be using "real world logic" to justify the "peak human" arguments, however, they fail to realize that this directly contradicts their "comic book" logic arguments.
Originally posted by Juntai
Look, Spidey is much faster and stronger than Batman is.
But Batman is a much smarter and much much more seasoned fighter than Spiderman is.
What's humorous is that these are even the principals that martials arts teaches you. Martial arts that Batman knows. 😉
Speed and strength are only AIDS in fighting.
"Much smarter ? A bit smarter yes, but SM is also a genius you know"
Theyr smart in different ways. Bats its more smarter in a tactical way, he has proven that time and time.
Spiderman is more smart in the sciences way. More accomplished also considering that he actually invented something from scratch when he was nothing but a teen.
What Bats does in that field of expertize is improve/make existent tecnology work for him.
Originally posted by olympian
"Much smarter ? A bit smarter yes, but SM is also a genius you know"Theyr smart in different ways. Bats its more smarter in a tactical way. Spiderman is more smart in the sciences way. More accomplished also considering that he actually invented something from scratch when he was nothing but a teen. What Bats does in that field of expertize is improve/make existent tecnology work for him.