Originally posted by samishe
Because if DD dies Marvel would lose a lot of money. On this forum we assume what would happen realistaclly. Everyone knows that in comicbooks Wolverine could beat Galactus if marvel writers decides so.
I am afraid that "realism" is one concept that Batfans have extreme difficulty to grasp...
Imo, in this fight Batman is fighting without are usually his three main advantages:
Prep time - doesn't get any in this fight
Intelligence advantage - Peter is almost as smart as Bruce, especially when it comes to thinking creatively in the heat of battle. My point is that Batman isn't facing a physically superior but mentally inferior opponent in this fight.
Martial arts skills - This is negated by Spiderman's physically superiority. Not only is Spiderman faster, stronger, and more agile but he also has precognition thanks to his spidersense. For example Daredevil has stated that normally he can't outfight Spiderman even though, as we all know, DD has a similar advantage in martial arts skills and he also has a radar sense that Batman lacks. My point is that MA skills by no means ensures a victory over Spiderman.
All in all, I'd say Spiderman wins 7 or 8/10 once you factor in Spiderman's long range attack options.
Here are the scans for the DD/Spiderman fight. The scans are from the DD respect thread:http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t386982.html
http://img387.imageshack.us/my.php?image=amazing45rc.jpg
http://img387.imageshack.us/my.php?image=amazing58sk.jpg
Originally posted by TheKahn
Imo, in this fight Batman is fighting without are usually his three main advantages:Prep time - doesn't get any in this fight
Intelligence advantage - Peter is almost as smart as Bruce, especially when it comes to thinking creatively in the heat of battle. My point is that Batman isn't facing a physically superior but mentally inferior opponent in this fight.
Martial arts skills - This is negated by Spiderman's physically superiority. Not only is Spiderman faster, stronger, and more agile but he also has precognition thanks to his spidersense. For example Daredevil has stated that normally he can't outfight Spiderman even though, as we all know, DD has a similar advantage in martial arts skills and he also has a radar sense that Batman lacks. My point is that MA skills by no means ensures a victory over Spiderman.
All in all, I'd say Spiderman wins 7 or 8/10 once you factor in Spiderman's long range attack options.
Here are the scans for the DD/Spiderman fight. The scans are from the DD respect thread:http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t386982.html
http://img387.imageshack.us/my.php?image=amazing45rc.jpg
http://img387.imageshack.us/my.php?image=amazing58sk.jpg
While I agree with everything you have to say, Batman is much smarter than Spider-man. However, this wouldn't make much of a differnce in this fight considering Batman doesn't have some prep time.
Originally posted by RUNMAN
A class 15 punch in the exposed chin of batman won't knock him out? Is BatMan from Krypton or some planet not named Earth?
it would if batman wasn't roling with the punch.. but he's just done it with too many faster stronger characters than spiderman to ignore the fact that he could do it again.
Originally posted by MrHeavySilenceI’m not going to insult you or call you a fanboy. That’s really not good reasoning though. You do realize you’re pretty much saying that because it hasn’t happened that it can’t. By that logic you could say that Batman’s immortal because nobody’s killed him yet. I guess nobody that hasn’t been killed by a face punch can die that way then. Bad reasoning. Really bad man.
Spiderman isn't going to kill him because of an exposed chin. It's no more likely that Spiderman is going to kill Batman because of a chin punch (WHICH NOONE ELSE HAS DONE BY THE WAY BECAUSE IT DOESN'T WORK), then Batman has just as much chance to gauge Spiderman's eyes with the knives in his gauntlet. It's stupid, you can't actually think Spidey wins just because of an exposed chin, because no superhero/villain/person has ever killed him with a chin punch.
Originally posted by MrHeavySilence😆 WTF?? Come on now. Do you think they’re punching as hard as they can? Are you telling me that Supes or WW couldn’t kill him with a single blow to the chin if they wanted? Please answer. Protected somehow? Pfffffffffffffffffffft!!!!!! only by the fact that nobody including myself wants to see Batman get his head splatted. I don’t think DC’d be doing too well if that happened. Regardless though, common sense should tell you what would happen if a guy who’s faster than a human can ever be and able to press ten tons(that’s where Spidey was a while back. He’s stronger now) punches a non-meta in the face as hard and as fast as he can. If Spidey punches Batman in the fast full force his jaw will probably be knocked of his face. & that’s the BEST case scenario for Batman in that event. Come on now. If Spidey couldn’t kill a human in one punch, he wouldn’t feel the need to hold back all the time
Superman and Wonder Woman knock him in the chin regularly. What does that mean? The chin is probably protected somehow.
Originally posted by MrHeavySilenceNo. The Spidey-eye gauging is super improbable. For some reason, you seem to thin Batman’s got a super-jaw. He doesn’t. Crapping reasoning is thinking Bats can’t be killed by a punch just because it hasn’t happened. Seriously, any of the other Bat supporters agree w/this Bats chin>>>>>>>>>>Super punch theory? Bats survives because there’s not a smart writer on earth who’d have him killed off like that because he too important of a character, not because he’s immune to “mega punch poisoning”
It's really crappy reasoning to think Batman loses because of a minituae reasoning like that; just as how Spidey-eye-gauging would be speculation.
Originally posted by MrHeavySilenceWhat part of exposed chin do you not get? I guess if somebody shot him in the chin the bullet would bounce off? No? You do realize people like Supes, WW, and even Spidey can do way more damage than a bullet with a single punch?
And no matter where Spidey punches, its not going to K.O. Batman. It's already been gone over that quantitative reasoning suggests Batman's suit is durable enough to handle class 10+ tons and up to giant levels.
Originally posted by jinzinThe real question is whether those faster and stronger were using their speed or not. If you're talking of WW or Supes or Flash, there's no way in hell he'd be able to roll w/anything unless they let him.
it would if batman wasn't roling with the punch.. but he's just done it with too many faster stronger characters than spiderman to ignore the fact that he could do it again.
Originally posted by TheKahnGood pix. And I'm not even sure if Spidey was moving his absolute fastest in that pic. DD's better @ dodging stuff than Bats could ever dream to be because of the radar sense and even he can't evade a really high velocity Spidey. Bats won't have that early warning DD has and since Spidey's not holding back here, Bats won't even have a face like DD has when it's over.
Imo, in this fight Batman is fighting without are usually his three main advantages:Prep time - doesn't get any in this fight
Intelligence advantage - Peter is almost as smart as Bruce, especially when it comes to thinking creatively in the heat of battle. My point is that Batman isn't facing a physically superior but mentally inferior opponent in this fight.
Martial arts skills - This is negated by Spiderman's physically superiority. Not only is Spiderman faster, stronger, and more agile but he also has precognition thanks to his spidersense. For example Daredevil has stated that normally he can't outfight Spiderman even though, as we all know, DD has a similar advantage in martial arts skills and he also has a radar sense that Batman lacks. My point is that MA skills by no means ensures a victory over Spiderman.
All in all, I'd say Spiderman wins 7 or 8/10 once you factor in Spiderman's long range attack options.
Here are the scans for the DD/Spiderman fight. The scans are from the DD respect thread:http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t386982.html
http://img387.imageshack.us/my.php?image=amazing45rc.jpg
http://img387.imageshack.us/my.php?image=amazing58sk.jpg
Originally posted by who?-kid😆 I wish I'd have seen this before I posted.
Okay, listen up everybody, chin punches don't work with Batman !!Got it ? Okay, now continue debating.
Look @ the pic people. This guy can't knock Batman's jaw completely off and kill him?
Originally posted by lifeisaglichIt was a question you asked only because what I said went way over your head. Please don't let this drag on like you did with the Batman's nothing VS Batman's Noting thing
Actually it was not over my head, and my question was actually appropriate. And you did a nice job of walking around my question?
Originally posted by batdude123I must admit that I don't smell fanboy on ya. You do like Bats big time but you do @least try to put that aside in these debates(unlike batfanboys). Very respectable.
Batman is my absolute favorite of all time, but I said that Spider-man would win this fight.
Once again batman is not going to get his jaw knock off. And here is why.
We are all assumeing that spiderman is just going to in there and knock of batman's jaw. Batman has dressed like that eversince he was created. And he still continue's to do so even though he knows that the world he lives in is full of superpowered beings.
Chances are batman is protecting that jaw of his. Let's look it at this way, the most vulnerable part on batman's suite is what...answer...his exposed jaw line. And we are now assuming that batman does not know that the most vulnerable part of his armour is his jaw line. A person that is said to be one of the most smartest of human beings both analytically and scientific. I find that hard to believe.
What do you guys think, about batman not knowing that the most vulnerable part of his suit, his armour is his chin?
I am hearing this debate and I find it funny people believe batman can roll with the punches.
Case scenaro
Spiderman can attack with a force of 10 tons. Thats about 20,000 pounds. If a person can be killed with a shot from a 30 pound weight in the head. Imagine 20,000 pounds hitting you in the face at superspeed. It would be a divine miracle if the head does not fly down the block.
😆 Ditto
Originally posted by lifeisaglichWhen will it stop? What's with all this assumption that it's protected? His jaw is bare. There's no protection. People will just say anything convienent to their side of the argument. Sure it's protected. That's why this guy who's not as strong or as fast as Spidey and has a broken arm is able to knock blood out of his face.
Once again batman is not going to get his jaw knock off. And here is why.We are all assumeing that spiderman is just going to in there and knock of batman's jaw. Batman has dressed like that eversince he was created. And he still continue's to do so even though he knows that the world he lives in is full of superpowered beings.
Chances are batman is protecting that jaw of his. Let's look it at this way, the most vulnerable part on batman's suite is what...answer...his exposed jaw line. And we are now assuming that batman does not know that the most vulnerable part of his armour is his jaw line. A person that is said to be one of the most smartest of human beings both analytically and scientific. I find that hard to believe.
What do you guys think, about batman not knowing that the most vulnerable part of his suit, his armour is his chin?
It was a question you asked only because what I said went way over your head. Please don't let this drag on like you did with the Batman's nothing VS Batman's Noting thing
Hey I am good enough to admitt when I am wrong bob....😆
And by the way you did not answer my question...Can BP survive a punch from Spiderman to head? (keep in mind that BP and other such heros have suffered far much worse one time or another)
