Batman vs Spiderman

Originally posted by Creshosk
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Unfocused area effect attack. . . Like a flash of light or Gas bomb. . .

And the spidey sense isn't infalliable. . .

And fighting skills? Are we forgetting that Spidey composed a fighting style of his own that is collaborated of abilities all many times superior to Batman's own? Batman would be destroyed in hth combat with Spidey, period. Spidey's own fighting style uses abilities much too advanced for Batman's own physiology to meet or adapt to.

Originally posted by StrawNilla
So.....Spidey could not have speedblitzed Batman by then with his great, GREAT speed, strength, and maneuverability advantage by then?

And fighting skills? Are we forgetting that Spidey composed a fighting style of his own that is collaborated of abilities all many times superior to Batman's own? Batman would be destroyed in hth combat with Spidey, period. Spidey's own fighting style uses abilities much too advanced for Batman's own physiology to meet or adapt to.

cuase spideys sooooo GREAT OF THE GREATEST GREAT FIGHTERS AND HE'S SOOOOOOO INHUMANLY FAST THAT HE......................................................................gets creamed by the kingpin?

"Yeah that doesn't sound biased or uninformed at all. . . "

lol pretty much the whole reason I don't debate with strawnilla too much........I'll take intelligence over bias anytime...

Originally posted by Creshosk
Yeah that doesn't sound biased or uninformed at all. . . 😆

Batman may be a much better fighter, but he surely could not withstand Spiderman's strength.

Spiderman could web Batman, and slam him all over the place.

Can batman beat Namor? Cuz apparently according to you SPiderman is the favorite in that matchup.

And as far as relevance to your current argument...Kingpin couldn't cream Namor...and yet according to you he'd be defeated by Spiderman.. So why does it make a difference if spiderman gets "creamed" by kingpin? When according to you...spidey can beat people who would beat down kingpin?

Originally posted by jinzin
cuase spideys sooooo GREAT OF THE GREATEST GREAT FIGHTERS AND HE'S SOOOOOOO INHUMANLY FAST THAT HE......................................................................gets creamed by the kingpin?

"Yeah that doesn't sound biased or uninformed at all. . . "

lol pretty much the whole reason I don't debate with strawnilla too much........I'll take intelligence over bias anytime...

Originally posted by jinzin
cuase spideys sooooo GREAT OF THE GREATEST GREAT FIGHTERS AND HE'S SOOOOOOO INHUMANLY FAST THAT HE......................................................................gets creamed by the kingpin?

"Yeah that doesn't sound biased or uninformed at all. . . "

lol pretty much the whole reason I don't debate with strawnilla too much........I'll take intelligence over bias anytime...

When was Spiderman creamed by the Kingpin? Batman's nemisis is an insane clown.

Originally posted by Creshosk
The Spidey fans make Spidey look bad with the constant powering down of the opponents. . .

I mean he fights the goblins with their gadgets . . . so why can't batman have his artilery?

Batman is just not on Spidey's level physically, and as far as gadgetry goes, it wouldn't really matter if he had it or not, after all, this is a non-prep fight. Maybe you can't grasp that and instead see our putting Spidey's physical advantages into play and stating of the fact that Batman IS written as a human, one at his peak physically, but still human all the same as fanboyism. And frankly, though it may be a simple misunderstanding, I don't agree with that at all.

Originally posted by jinzin
cuase spideys sooooo GREAT OF THE GREATEST GREAT FIGHTERS AND HE'S SOOOOOOO INHUMANLY FAST THAT HE......................................................................gets creamed by the kingpin?

"Yeah that doesn't sound biased or uninformed at all. . . "

lol pretty much the whole reason I don't debate with strawnilla too much........I'll take intelligence over bias anytime...

Sure pal, keep telling yourself that.

And talk about intelligence....when you were the person that said: "crap writing or not it happened" in DEFENSE of PIS/CIS. Crock-of-bull.

I can sum your post up in one word jinzin: hypocrisy.

"Can batman beat Namor? Cuz apparently according to you SPiderman is the favorite in that matchup.
And as far as relevance to your current argument...Kingpin couldn't cream Namor...and yet according to you he'd be defeated by Spiderman.. So why does it make a difference if spiderman gets "creamed" by kingpin? When according to you...spidey can beat people who would beat down kingpin?"

totally illogical.....okay shadow cat has a better chance at taking down automated threats like sentinals than logan....but because of her powers....she can't beat wolverine cause phasing through adamantium messes her up...but wolverine has a waaay slimmer chance of taking down the same sentinal than shadowcat.........same stuff applies here buddy....anyways.....with gadgets....yeah I think he could take namor....

"I'm biased because I don't agree with PIS?
Sure pal, keep telling yourself that"

no you're biased because you think everytime that spidermans been beaten or hit by a street level speed character..."is not fact"

Originally posted by jinzin
"Funny, but impossible. Lobo's balls are invulnerable as well. It was crap writing, plain and simple. Lobo should have snapped him in two."

wolvies stabbed through savage hulks balls easily enough (with bone) why couldn't he do the same to lobo?

"So now Spidey just stands there like an idiot asking himself why the spider sense is still going off without doing anything about it?

Nice try jinzin......*cough* not really *cough*"

oh you mean like how he did that when daredevil outsmarted his spidersense twice using nothin but his freakin billy club...?

Spidey could've caught the thing if the occurance were written correctly.

"Batman is just not on Spidey's level physically, and as far as gadgetry goes, it wouldn't really matter if he had it or not, after all, this is a non-prep fight. Maybe you can't grasp that"

no I guess you dont comprehend that batman has his gadgets with him at all times....hence the hefty belt....

"And talk about intelligence....when you were the person that said: "crap writing or not it happened" in DEFENSE of PIS/CIS. Crock-of-bull.
I can sum your post up in one word jinzin: hypocrisy."

totally misconstrued...just like all your posts......i said that in retaliation to the crap writing argument....so now I'm a hipocrit because I find actual reasons for things that happened and take my licks when they come without having to resort to bad writing....ever....? pah lease!

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Batman may be a much better fighter, but he surely could not withstand Spiderman's strength.

Spiderman could web Batman, and slam him all over the place.

It's part of who they are, but het if batman can have his gadgets taken away why not Spideys spider abilities?

Originally posted by StrawNilla
Come on....now you're whining about how the Spidey supporters are powering down Batman?

Originally posted by IRTMU-Dragon
Batman with no gadgets equals prey for spiderman.

Originally posted by StrawNilla
Please. If anything the Batman supporters are trying elevate Batman past the point of his humanity to a point where he's on even terms with Spidey in most physical aspects......which is, in case you're wondering, redicoulous.

Batman has martial arts prowess, Spidey doesn't. So if they'tre main atrributes were taken away Batman would have an advantage.

Originally posted by StrawNilla
Batman is just not on Spidey's level physically, and as far as gadgetry goes, it wouldn't really matter if he had it or not, after all, this is a non-prep fight. Maybe you can't grasp that and instead see our putting Spidey's physical advantages into play and stating of the fact that Batman IS written as a human, one at his peak physically, but still human all the same as fanboyism. And frankly, though it may be a simple misunderstanding, I don't agree with that at all.

Batman has overcome super powered humans before with his gadgetry. So it's not unreasonable for him to stand a chance with his gadgets but:

Originally posted by IRTMU-Dragon
Batman with no gadgets equals prey for spiderman.

Powering down spidey's opponents has been a popular tactic I've noticed. Did it to vader too in the Spidey Vs. Vader thread.

"Vader without the force Spidey wins"

"The spider sense isn't failproof, but unless DD's billy club has a mind of it's own and it moves at lightning speeds an action such as that wouldn't happen logically"

the spidey sense was going at a constant rate spiderman didn't know when it was over or where it was coming from.....and it DID happen get over it...

Originally posted by StrawNilla
The spider sense isn't failproof, but unless DD's billy club has a mind of it's own and it moves at lightning speeds an action such as that wouldn't happen logically.

Spidey could've caught the thing if the occurance were written correctly.

Spidey WAS blinded before.and his spider sense really didn't help him as it doesn't tell him WHAT the threat is. Just that there is a threat and how bad the threat is. but not where it is (unless he plays hot or cold).

Originally posted by jinzin
"I'm biased because I don't agree with PIS?
Sure pal, keep telling yourself that"

no you're biased because you think everytime that spidermans been beaten or hit by a street level speed character..."is not fact"

And no, when I say that a street level character like DD has a chance of hitting Spidey, I don't mean that they have a good chance...just a chance. Especially when Spidey's fighting at his absolute best and to his full potential, then I'd say there's virtually no chance.

"I do believe that a street level character like DD or someone does have a chance of hitting Spidey, but as far as Spidey standing there letting them or when you try to overlook the fact that in each of these examples where a peak human hits Spidey that there's some type of technicality where Spidey does something or doesn't do something that he would/would not normally do or he's simply fighting stupidly and deem the occurance fact anyway......that's where I disagree."

he wasn't LETTING anybody hit him....his spidersense got outsmarted plain and simple...

Originally posted by Creshosk
Spidey is not infalliable.

Spidey WAS blinded before.and his spider sense really didn't help him as it doesn't tell him WHAT the threat is. Just that there is a threat and how bad the threat is. but not where it is (unless he plays hot or cold).

And Spidey can tell where an attack will come from if he focuses on the strength of the sensation and whether it gets stronger or weaker as he approaches or steps back from the attack.

And it would take alot more than one flash grenade to confuse the spider sense....same thing in the case of gas bombs, etc, Spidey would have to leap back well out of range of the gas/flash attacks to completely avoid it.

And nothing you've provided in your post can eliminate the possibility of Spidey speedblitizing Batman before Bats can put his tools to work....esp. in a non-prep fight.

bats moves out of the way....there done...

Originally posted by StrawNilla
Did I ever claim that the spider sense was not infallible or that the spider sense told Spidey what an attack actually was?

And Spidey can tell where an attack will come from if he focuses on the strength of the sensation and whether it gets stronger or weaker as he approaches or steps back from the attack.

And it would take alot more than one flash grenade to confuse the spider sense....same thing in the case of gas bombs, etc, Spidey would have to leap back well out of range of the gas/flash attacks to completely avoid it.

And nothing you've provided in your post can eliminate the possibility of Spidey speedblitizing Batman before Bats can put his tools to work....esp. in a non-prep fight.

I don't think Spidey is that stupid.

You know, Spiderman would also win if Batman was tied to a chair and unconscious. And he had no gadgets.

Seriously, Spidey has dodging skills, but he's not Flash. Batman is paranoid enough to have knockout gas handy...