Originally posted by CreshoskPlease click here Spider Sense
Spidey is not infalliable.Spidey WAS blinded before.and his spider sense really didn't help him as it doesn't tell him WHAT the threat is. Just that there is a threat and how bad the threat is. but not where it is (unless he plays hot or cold).
Originally posted by jinzin
"Batman is just not on Spidey's level physically, and as far as gadgetry goes, it wouldn't really matter if he had it or not, after all, this is a non-prep fight. Maybe you can't grasp that"no I guess you dont comprehend that batman has his gadgets with him at all times....hence the hefty belt....
"And talk about intelligence....when you were the person that said: "crap writing or not it happened" in DEFENSE of PIS/CIS. Crock-of-bull.
I can sum your post up in one word jinzin: hypocrisy."totally misconstrued...just like all your posts......i said that in retaliation to the crap writing argument....so now I'm a hipocrit because I find actual reasons for things that happened and take my licks when they come without having to resort to bad writing....ever....? pah lease!
And Spidey would have the advantage most definitely in a non-prep fight simply because Batman can't fall back on a crutch such as reading up on his opponent, you can post that Batman will anticipate Spidey's actions just because he says that he can do so in fights with alot of people, that doesn't mean that that will be the case.
Originally posted by jinzinWhen's the last time Spidey fought Kingpin and lost?
cuase spideys sooooo GREAT OF THE GREATEST GREAT FIGHTERS AND HE'S SOOOOOOO INHUMANLY FAST THAT HE......................................................................gets creamed by the kingpin?"Yeah that doesn't sound biased or uninformed at all. . . "
lol pretty much the whole reason I don't debate with strawnilla too much........I'll take intelligence over bias anytime...
Originally posted by brainchild81I Know what it is and what it does thanks, but you are overestimating it:
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Originally posted by StrawNillaWhy?
What do you think crap writing is? Do you still consider it fact like before on the trio thread? Crap writing is just another term for PIS/CIS. YOU DEFENDED PIS/CIS! And what other actual reason do you have for crap writing other than saying it happened. You give PIS/CIS too much credit and disregard Spidey's abilties and experience with arguments of strategy and gadgetry and what happened in a situation where Spidey was at a mental disadvantage such as being hypnotized.And Spidey would have the advantage most definitely in a non-prep
What do you think crap writing is? Do you still consider it fact like before on the trio thread? Crap writing is just another term for PIS/CIS. YOU "DEFENDED PIS/CIS! And what other actual reason do you have for crap writing other than saying it happened."
well it did happen....it's not my place to make excuses for it...though I do pnder about reasons....
"You give PIS/CIS too much credit and disregard Spidey's abilties and experience with arguments of strategy and gadgetry"
hahahaha oh right you mean making arguments against him using batman's advantages? damn me I'm so illogical!
"and what happened in a situation where Spidey was at a mental disadvantage such as being hypnotized."
this was not a hypnotized spidey get your shit straight...
Originally posted by Creshosk
Would Spiderman speedblitz though? IT is a non preped fight, so he doesn't know what batman is capable of.I don't think Spidey is that stupid.
And besides, Spidey COULD speedblitz Batman whether he knew it or not, the only thing stopping him would be his morals. And there are other alternatives to a victory for the Spider so gadgetry or not, in a non-prep fight, I just wouldn't count Spidey out.
Originally posted by StrawNillaNever said that. I doubt weither would speedblitz the other. They are both supposed to be inteligent. Why would they attack each other right away? Their attacks could make the other stronger for all they know.
Oh, so that's the case with Spidey but according to the Batman supporters Batman can anticipate and prepare himself for anything Spidey can throw at him...sure.
So I doubt that either would just attack, seems out of character for both of them.
Originally posted by StrawNillaNeither would I. But as you said Spidey wouldn't speed blitz. I base it on brain, you base it on morals, either way a speed blitz is out of character.
And besides, Spidey COULD speedblitz Batman whether he knew it or not, the only thing stopping him would be his morals. And there are other alternatives to a victory for the Spider so gadgetry or not, in a non-prep fight, I just wouldn't count Spidey out.
Originally posted by jinzin
"And besides, Spidey COULD speedblitz Batman whether he knew it or not, "or batman just sidesteps out of the way.....then flashgrenades him....
Originally posted by StrawNillaHe doesn't need to read up on a person, that's why he has his utlity belt, that some villans hate so much they target it to try and hinder batman.
And Spidey would have the advantage most definitely in a non-prep fight simply because Batman can't fall back on a crutch such as reading up on his opponent, you can post that Batman will anticipate Spidey's actions just because he says that he can do so in fights with alot of people, that doesn't mean that that will be the case.
"I wouldn't have suggested Spidey using the speedblitz if Spidey weren't faster than Batman jinzin, jeez, I didn't expect you to think the battle would be that simple whether you supported Batman or not."
spiderman isn't the flash...his movements not near instantaneous.....batman sidesteps and jumps and hops out of the way of bullet fire.....he can do the same to spidey....then BANG flash grenade when spidey's in close.....spidey's blinding and confused then gets sprayed with acid...then gets blown up with grenades...
Originally posted by Creshosk
Never said that. I doubt weither would speedblitz the other. They are both supposed to be inteligent. Why would they attack each other right away? Their attacks could make the other stronger for all they know.So I doubt that either would just attack, seems out of character for both of them.
Neither would I. But as you said Spidey wouldn't speed blitz. I base it on brain, you base it on morals, either way a speed blitz is out of character.
And Batman speedblitzing Spidey faster than Spidey can avoid it? Not likely. It's just a good thing Batman wouldn't think of doing it.
Originally posted by brainchild81Wow then his spidersense would be 100% useless in a fight.
You obviously don't. Even if you think you do, please just read it anyway. You might see something you didn't know.
Because it'd be going off all the bloody time. . .
That looks like it wasn't very well thought out writing.
Why would it go off if there isn't a threat?
And why didn't it work that way when Spidey was blinded? And why didn't it help when Wolverine accidently "snikked" him?
Originally posted by jinzin
early comics....spiderman may have won overall but kingpins had more than enough strength and fighting ability to fubr him up pretty damn good....like when he made spiderman's arm numb with a grappling/sumo lock.....
Jinz is right, Kingpin isn't even peak, strong as hell, but not peak, and has nearly broken Spideys arm.
Good point.
Glad I brought it up.