Batman vs Spiderman

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Originally posted by Kento
Any Hulk is just unbelievable. Batman should not be able to take out Hulk before Hulk crushs him. Unless Hulk didn't want to fight, and lets Batman hit on him all day, and throw junk at him. Which still shouldn't make a difference. A punch or a kick from Batman would not hurt Hulk.

Cap took out Namor using the same kind of nerve strike jazz. I know they shouldn't be able to strike the nerves in the first place but you gotta throw them a bone. To a point. If it was savage Hulk, I'd still be outraged.

Jinzin,

Crossovers don't prove anything. They arn't actual continuity. Sometimes the characters are handled by writers not accustomed to using them. There is a conflict on interests between the participating comic companies because each one wants to come out looking stronger. Because each one wants to look strong, they have to make sacrifices bad writing they wouldn't make if the comics were actual canon.

Seriously, if you can't see that a Batman kick hurting the Hulk is utter crap...I don't know man. Just take off the blinders.

"batman beat scorpion in 3 hits in their first encounter 3 HITS was all it took for bats....

he beat the crap out of carnage by himself...

living against hulk is one thing.....beating him is another....batman beat him in less time it took than for him to beat carnage.....proffesor or not...it was still impressive....and does away with the superhuman vs. human arguement....it's obviously not that cut and dry.."

Batman is Human. Nothing more nothing else. He should not be able to take out Hulk. Nothing has he ever done in his own comics or JLA or Batman/Superman shows that he can take out Hulk. Or beat Spidey, or Scorpion, or Carnage. Well Carnage maybe with the right weapons.

"Because in the majority of batman's fights he uses a weapon. In the majority of Spiderman's fights the only extra weapon he has is the webshooters."

And so now having weapons against somebody stronger, and quicker, and deadly is against Spidey's rules? Since when?

batman can kick through a solid three foot living tree....he can punch through morter and cement walls but he can't make hulk breath (didn't hurt him...just made him breath)?

"Batman is Human. Nothing more nothing else. He should not be able to take out Hulk. Nothing has he ever done in his own comics or JLA or Batman/Superman shows that he can take out Hulk."

he didn't to it with brute force...he used his gadgets......in terms of brute force no he hasn't shown that kind of ability..but that's not what he did....

" Or beat Spidey, or Scorpion, or Carnage. Well Carnage maybe with the right weapons."

why could he not beat scorpion .......WHICH HE DID....in an access book which does have at least some continuity with dc...

"batman can kick through a solid three foot living tree....he can punch through morter and cement walls but he can't make hulk breath (didn't hurt him...just made him breath)?"

You don't know the Hulk very well do you?

"why could he not beat scorpion .......WHICH HE DID....in an access book which does have at least some continuity with dc..."

If that's DC continuity then that's a DC Scorpion. Not the Marvel Scorpion. DC and Marvel arn't just in alternate Universes. They are completely seperate realities that have no connection to each other what so ever.

Spiderman is never going to recollect that one time he met Batman because it never happend officially.

Crossovers are a nice way for DC and Marvel to make some extra cash. However, like I said before. The writing always conflicts because you have two different companies who are still competitors at heart making sacrifices for their chars that they wouldn't normally make.

Originally posted by Kento
And so now having weapons against somebody stronger, and quicker, and deadly is against Spidey's rules? Since when?
I never said that. . But batman is weaker, slower . .and . . actually more deadly since he's an antihero and Spidey is a boyscout hero. . .

Spiderman is not expected to start the fight with any weapons other than his webshooters. . . he can use his environment if he needs.

Batman is expected to start out with his utility belt. he can also use his environment.

It's bnot ridiculous to give them both the same thing:

Starting out at both of their defaults. And neither has knowledge about the other. That seems fair doesn't it?

The Hulk can shake off blasts from a tank and missles. But hohoho, he better watch out for those bat kicks.

Originally posted by 8bitChris
"batman can kick through a solid three foot living tree....he can punch through morter and cement walls but he can't make hulk breath (didn't hurt him...just made him breath)?"

You don't know the Hulk very well do you?

"why could he not beat scorpion .......WHICH HE DID....in an access book which does have at least some continuity with dc..."

If that's DC continuity then that's a DC Scorpion. Not the Marvel Scorpion. DC and Marvel arn't just in alternate Universes. They are completely seperate realities that have no connection to each other what so ever.

Spiderman is never going to recollect that one time he met Batman because it never happend officially.

Crossovers are a nice way for DC and Marvel to make some extra cash. However, like I said before. The writing always conflicts because you have two different companies who are still competitors at heart making sacrifices for their chars that they wouldn't normally make.

Batman and Spiderman are the two that can be the closest to crossover anyway. . .

I know that was just the movies . . but still there was the whole Kingpin being resonsible for two-face idea. . .

"Batman and Spiderman are the two that can be the closest to crossover anyway. . ."

Personally, I think Spiderman is more human and relatable than Batman. I mean he's just an average guy (pretty smart too) who has some neat powers.

Bruce Wayne is an eccentric billionaire businessman dark knight master martial artist smartest man on earth genius master tactician machinery god who can kick down trees. Oh, but he's just a human; right. haha 🙂 Nobody could relate to the Batman char even if they tried.

"You don't know the Hulk very well do you?"

batman made him breath with a kick that can go through cement and living trees with ease....professor hulk is well within the limits of reacting...once again HE WAS NOT HURT...

"If that's DC continuity then that's a DC Scorpion. Not the Marvel Scorpion. DC and Marvel arn't just in alternate Universes. They are completely seperate realities that have no connection to each other what so ever."

I was making a reference to it's being in continuity somewhat.......not saying that scorpions a dc character.....damn

The Hulk can shake off blasts from a tank and missles. But hohoho, he better watch out for those bat kicks.

that's savage hulk not professor get your shit straight.

Originally posted by 8bitChris
"Batman and Spiderman are the two that can be the closest to crossover anyway. . ."

Personally, I think Spiderman is more human and relatable than Batman. I mean he's just an average guy (pretty smart too) who has some neat powers.

Bruce Wayne is an eccentric billionaire businessman dark knight master martial artist smartest man on earth genius master tactician machinery god who can kick down trees. Oh, but he's just a human; right. haha 🙂 Nobody could relate to the Batman char even if they tried.

😐 What does that have to do with what I said? 🤨

Originally posted by Creshosk
Without the knowledge of who batman is?

No....DURING THE BATTLE!

You're just going to ignore this aren't you?

Originally posted by jinzin
"Batman is Human. Nothing more nothing else. He should not be able to take out Hulk. Nothing has he ever done in his own comics or JLA or Batman/Superman shows that he can take out Hulk."

he didn't to it with brute force...he used his gadgets......in terms of brute force no he hasn't shown that kind of ability..but that's not what he did....

" Or beat Spidey, or Scorpion, or Carnage. Well Carnage maybe with the right weapons."

why could he not beat scorpion .......WHICH HE DID....in an access book which does have at least some continuity with dc...

Access doesn't have any continuity in the DC world. They have about as much place in a discussion as DKR, and Kingdom Come do.

And he canno beat Scorpion cause Scorpion is Spidey level villain. Batman isn't Spiderman level.

yes he does...he appeared in a gl comic....

"And he canno beat Scorpion cause Scorpion is Spidey level villain. Batman isn't Spiderman level."

again.....it's not that simple......if batman was doomed to lose everybattle where he was physically outclassed he'd already be dead...

Originally posted by StrawNilla
No....DURING THE BATTLE!

You're just going to ignore this aren't you?

So now you've changed it to "during the battle" rather than a speedblitz from the start?

they do that.....along with the whole power decrease thing...

Originally posted by jinzin
they do that.....along with the whole power decrease thing...
And Spiderman overpower. . .