Batman vs Spiderman

Originally posted by Creshosk
Uh. . Batman's batmobile is his own. . . spidey would require 3rd party help to get the fantasticar . . .

Anyway I'm not even sure of the relevency of this, as batman doesn't use the batmobile in all of his fights I'm not sure if he'd be granted the batmobile in this fight anyway. . .

Preptime?

Not as well as Batman does in this category, Batman has his bat computer, spiderman. . . what does he have to match batman's ability in this feild?

Yup this is true.

But this is also why batman has more firsthand resources than spidey does as far as research goes. But you can't call Spidey stupid. He did make the web cartridges and the webshooters that he can use in a lot of different ways.

He invented his own weapon and then mastered it.

Any means neccisery?

Yeah Spiderman would mop the floor with batman in a no holds barred sort of fight where they are out of character, so innocents wouldn't factor in, and neither would them carring about loved ones.

Spiderman could drop a building on batman. . after the semitruck . . the fire engine the car the postoffice box the street lamp. . .

Don't remove spidey's morals folks, he'd make quite a dangerous villian.

Using pure comic logic these guys will ALWAYS stalemate or team-up...That's why I try to use a combination of real and comic logic...Otherwise Batman REALLY wouldn't stand a chance.... But all things considered he does stand a chance, it's just a slim one though IMO 10%-15%( he's earned more respect from me since this started) 😮‍💨

Originally posted by The MISTER
That's all I'm trying to say man we're in 100% agreeance 😄 I like Spidey's morals too that's why he's my favorite, but there are many who want him to hold back while his opponent doesn't and therefore wins....Garbage!

Originally posted by The MISTER
Using pure comic logic these guys will ALWAYS stalemate or team-up...That's why I try to use a combination of real and comic logic...Otherwise Batman REALLY wouldn't stand a chance.... But all things considered he does stand a chance, it's just a slim one though IMO 10%-15%( he's earned more respect from me since this started) 😮‍💨

But you're right they'd probably stalemate in a real fight or team up.

I mean once they revealed that they were both good guys there would be no reason to keep fighting. . unless you threw in a grey area thing for them to be on opposite sides about. . . or a deception where one of the heroes is tricked. . . but then you might just wind up with the one who was "tricked" actually attempting to be a double agent against the orginization. . .

And due to their difference in morals and what they'd be willing to do, who'd be more likely to try and trick the orginization?

So who'd be the "bad guy" in the scenerio?

Originally posted by Creshosk
So who'd be the "bad guy" in the scenerio?

Well, Batman does wear black...

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Well, Batman does wear black...

Spiderman appears to me to be a bit more honest in that sense. . .

Anyway, is this a reasonable setup to why they'd fight?

Batman winds up as like a test of loyalty is sent out to confront an attacker, who turns out to be spiderman.

And since Batman is being watched he can't reveal why he's with the orginization. . . misunderstanding is usually what drives good guys to fight each other. That or hostages. MJ and Robin are both being held captive, and the losers hostage dies. . . but then they might not hold back so much in that one. . . that might compromise their morals. . . hmm . .

Originally posted by Creshosk
MJ and Robin are both being held captive, and the losers hostage dies. . . but then they might not hold back so much in that one. . . that might compromise their morals. . . hmm . .

Might? 🤨

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Might?

Unless the person came up with a stipulation that if they were to resist fighting then they both die. . .

if that happens, I think Spideiy and Batsey will use there"Fight" as a divseion and talk plans during there "
Match" and come up with a surpise attack and save both Robin and MJ. It could happen.

Originally posted by Joker1237
if that happens, I think Spideiy and Batsey will use there"Fight" as a divseion and talk plans during there "
Match" and come up with a surpise attack and save both Robin and MJ. It could happen.

That's pretty accurate. Spidey is a jokester, but he isn't really an A-hole. He would talk Batman out of a fight, then the two would formulate a way to save MJ and Robin.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
That's pretty accurate. Spidey is a jokester, but he isn't really an A-hole. He would talk Batman out of a fight, then the two would formulate a way to save MJ and Robin.

But that means that scenerio would have them holding back even more than normal. . .

I mean they will do WWF moves so Bats wont get to hurt, I mean Spiderman was in the WWF at one point flasy and such and no one will know they were holding back. You can relly turn a "Fake Fight" into a real looking one, and I sure they can pull that off.

Originally posted by Joker1237
I mean they will do WWF moves so Bats wont get to hurt, I mean Spiderman was in the WWF at one point flasy and such and no one will know they were holding back. You can relly turn a "Fake Fight" into a real looking one, and I sure they can pull that off.

I can even think of two villans they've fought in the past that would have a rather interesting working relationship.

Joker and Arcade. . .

Joker and Green Goblin. That is the Dream villian team up imo. 2 crazy loonys, that if things dont turn out right, may kill each other. But I think with there insane MASTEr minds they can think of something evil.

Originally posted by Joker1237
Joker and Green Goblin. That is the Dream villian team up imo. 2 crazy loonys, that if things dont turn out right, may kill each other. But I think with there insane MASTEr minds they can think of something evil.

The reason why I had Arcade is because he has/had the muderworld facility to put them in to fight.

But if we throw in arcade that'd be two M villans and one DC. . . who else could there be thrown in to balance that equation?

Joker is real hard to team up with with other DC villians as thus non of the other villians like Joker. They cant relly take his crazy and insane attudie they never know if the Joker will put a bullet im em for a good laugh or hit en with a chair(See Scarecrow)

But where there is Mister J, I sure his girlfreind be tagging along. I go with Quin.

Originally posted by Joker1237
Joker is real hard to team up with with other DC villians as thus non of the other villians like Joker. They cant relly take his crazy and insane attudie they never know if the Joker will put a bullet im em for a good laugh or hit en with a chair(See Scarecrow)

But where there is Mister J, I sure his girlfreind be tagging along. I go with Quin.

So this would turn into Green Goblin, Arcade, Joker & Harlequin Vs Batman and Spiderman

yeah the Heros would have MAJOR problems with such a team up like that.

But I think the heros will in the end will win, as the villians are so crazy, that they start off strong at first, but things will be in the way, or some big conflict between the supervillains, that they will fall apart. OF couse Joker and Harley will not have that conflict.

It may be between Joker and GG or Arcade.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Yes! 🙂

I guess we are in agreement on the deathstroke deally.😆

Then he would have never lost & will never lose again. Batman comics would be real boring if it was like this. No holds barred and what you posted are 2 different things.

(this no barred match has nothing to do with the current thread.)

You are correct on the first part. But on the second what is so different from taking on things that batman has been known to do from time to time. And put in one big openning. This is a no holds barred match. They are both coming at each other with everything they have got.

[I]Originally posted by The MISTER
Since you are a wrestling fan I can understand you being confused by the meaning of no holds barred. It doesn't mean no rules at all it means that there will be no holding anything back...for example in a wrestling match(professional) they could use any weapon of their choosing, but a gun is still against the rules...

Batman cheats, he cheats even when his entensions are noble. This is a no holds barrer match. Why woundn't there any cheating. And besides it is already a known fact that batman cheats to win.

For this battle it would mean that Batman is going to try to kill Spidey and vice versa....Spidey has connections with Reed Richards and if Batmans going to get his batwing (paid for) then Spidey is gonna get the souped up fantasticar(rented) and blow Batman's low tech ass away....

So now spiderman is now an ace pilot. And you guys are the one telling us that we give batman huge upgrades.

This is a fight between the two characters who have what they regularly
carry on them and for Batman...that's not an armory of weapons. For Spidey...it's what he has mastered in and out, just webbing.

So now you are going to tell me that you have never seen batman use the batmobile, batplane, or batboat to win a battle. Here one the battle between batman and nightwing vs. amazo. Guess how this battle ended. Batman calling the batmobile which ended up giving a couple of missles to amazo's face.

Spiderman met Batman but Batman has no more of an edge due to that meeting than Spidey because guess what? SPIDEY ALSO RESEARCHES HEROES AND VILLIANS!!!

Yeah but batman does it better. Yes batman's info could end the match before it even started.

You must truly believe that Batman's miles beyond Spidey's intellect when that just isn't true....Batman is just obsessed with fighting crime and does little else, where Spidey has a life,a job, friends, family, career goals, and BILLS! If Spider-man had Batman's money he'd probably be on the level of Tony stark and Reed Richards as far as inventions and breakthroughs go...

Yes I truly believe that Batman's miles beyond Spidey's intellect. Case in point batman built a satelite capable of viewing every super hero on earth. The satelite is called Brother Eye. (You can find this on IN THE ISSUE # ONE OF the OMAC PROJECT)

So Batman still falls to a Spider-man that is trying to win by any means necessary..IMO

By any means necessary and batman is not allowed to use his batmobile, batplane, or batboat because you have not seen him ever use any of the stuff mensioned above.

I know we are talking about the No holds Barred match which is what I am talking on. If you say they fight a no holds barred match, and to win is by any means necessary and they are going for the kill then IMO batman should win why he simply has alot of toys to use. And he knows how to use them.

(this no barred match has nothing to do with the current thread.)

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
I guess we are in agreement on the deathstroke deally.😆

You are correct on the first part. But on the second what is so different from taking on things that batman has been known to do from time to time. And put in one big openning. This is a no holds barred match. They are both coming at each other with everything they have got.

Batman cheats, he cheats even when his entensions are noble. This is a no holds barrer match. Why woundn't there any cheating. And besides it is already a known fact that batman cheats to win.

So now spiderman is now an ace pilot. And you guys are the one telling us that we give batman huge upgrades.

So now you are going to tell me that you have never seen batman use the batmobile, batplane, or batboat to win a battle. Here one the battle between batman and nightwing vs. amazo. Guess how this battle ended. Batman calling the batmobile which ended up giving a couple of missles to amazo's face.

Yeah but batman does it better. Yes batman's info could end the match before it even started.

Yes I truly believe that Batman's miles beyond Spidey's intellect. Case in point batman built a satelite capable of viewing every super hero on earth. The satelite is called Brother Eye. (You can find this on IN THE ISSUE # ONE OF the OMAC PROJECT)

By any means necessary and batman is not allowed to use his batmobile, batplane, or batboat because you have not seen him ever use any of the stuff mensioned above.

I know we are talking about the No holds Barred match which is what I am talking on. If you say they fight a no holds barred match, and to win is by any means necessary and they are going for the kill then IMO batman should win why he simply has alot of toys to use. And he knows how to use them.

Batman: Ha! Now I have you! I'm in my batmobile!
Spiderman: *drops a fuel filled semi on batmobile, with his webbing*

No holds barred means spiderman is not holding back and doesn't care about anyone.

Now Cresh I admit that was funny, now I know why I love seeing your name on the last posted list, I've come to like you more than you think. 😎

Don't puke too much. 🤣

The Batmobile as been though a LOT, being blown up(Forget Batman forever)

Bullet prove shelds. I think the Batmobile could take Spidys webbing and what ever Spiderman thowns at it.