Juggernaut Vs. Thor

Thor did stop him. Twice. That's what we've been discussing.

Please post where (so i can throw it back at jugfan if need be.)

He's refering to their first two fights. Not physical defeats (knockouts, etc.), but when he sent him to different dimension.

Originally posted by MERCILOUS
Please post where (so i can throw it back at jugfan if need be.)

you couldnt possibly throw anything in my face except a bunch of regurgitated B.S. i've seen it here and other forums a million times....

Originally posted by wrathofachilles
Thor did stop him. Twice. That's what we've been discussing.

thor stopped him momentarily ONCE, not twice. juggernaut would have prevailed had the foundation he was standing on not cracked .......... hence can never be stopped completely 🙂

Originally posted by MERCILOUS
I don't read too much Thor but feel i have a good perspective on his power.

this is funny 😆

Originally posted by MERCILOUS

What of this fight where thor blocks the crystals influence?

well this has been discussed (yes by me) before too. in the issue where he "blocks the crystals influence" the writer made it seem as though the forcefield was the source of juggernauts invulnerability. this however is false and was taken care of in their most rescent battle. juggernaut didnt erect his force field and thor was (by his own admission) hitting juggernaut with his hammer directly against his "hide". yet juggernaut wouldnt fall.

Originally posted by MERCILOUS

What's stopping him from doing it again?

read above statement......

Originally posted by MERCILOUS

What i really meant to say is Thor is resourceful.

well yes he is resourceful and has proven a worthy opponent to many but he usually has trouble with hulking bohemoths ....... i.e. juggernaut, destroyer, Hulk. obviously there is something to this, dont you think??

Originally posted by MERCILOUS

And while the X-men may be able to do things he can't (obviously) it is unfair to assume that Thor could not produce something to the same effect.

he cannot produce a team effort by himself..... he cant produce telepathy either. so its perfectly fair to assume that thor cant produce the same effects.....

Originally posted by MERCILOUS

Thor has beaten many, many, many foes more powerful than himself.

juggernaut just happens to be one that thor has trouble with.

yea i agree that Jugs individual characteristics make him particularly formidable to Thor, even though Thor has beaten more powerful enemies. About the X-men thing, I think that Thor's ability to harness and absorb mystical energies is a better weapon against Jugs than telepathy...even if an X-men character takes out Jugs with telepathy they still cant cause him any real physical Damage (except for some extreme examples). Thor drawing away Jug's energies level the playing field so that Thor can actually cause some real harm.

Originally posted by Wynndar
yea i agree that Jugs individual characteristics make him particularly formidable to Thor, even though Thor has beaten more powerful enemies. About the X-men thing, I think that Thor's ability to harness and absorb mystical energies is a better weapon against Jugs than telepathy...even if an X-men character takes out Jugs with telepathy they still cant cause him any real physical Damage (except for some extreme examples). Thor drawing away Jug's energies level the playing field so that Thor can actually cause some real harm.

i pretty much agree with this except for the fact that x-men and the telepathy thing. if they get his helmet off they dont have to knock him out with telepathy. they could toy with him and pretty much make him feel whatever they wanted him to at that point. or atleast make him -think- hes feeling it. i think they could actually mess him up pretty bad if they really wanted to. i think that is a much better weapon than messing with the mystical nature of his powers 🙂

interesting point...especially since Jugs is not a particularly strong minded guy

Well jugfan, Thor is a hulking behemoth, even more so than Juggernaut. This mystic power of his may be quite formidable, and i admit i was looking at things a little literally, but i still say that if it weren't for cheap writing Thor would mop the floor with Jugs.

of coarse if it wasnt cheap writing. boy i tell ya i must be a fan of cheap writing cause everywhere i go everything juggernaut does is "poor" or "cheap" writing. whenever he does something impressive its obviously bad writing. been that way since his first appearance. then when onslaught comes along, boom something that happens that isnt supposed to happen. what do you know its GOOD writing. wtf is up with that.

based on raw power, i say thor would win

gee, thats what i was thinking....... NOT. i'd say based on raw power juggernaut would win..... strategically, intellectually thor would win..... if he wins at all of coarse 😉 of coarse thats just my opinion.

raw power includes more than strength

yea i know........ juggernaut possesses enough to where he can break the barriers between dimensions with his fists.... has thor ever done that??? i'd say juggernaut possesses alot more raw power than thor.

??????explain.

Thor is a god, he doesn't need to break dimensions with his fists, he simply travels to the dimension of his choice (Asgard for example).

Originally posted by MERCILOUS
??????explain.

explain what........

Originally posted by Abaddon
Thor is a god, he doesn't need to break dimensions with his fists, he simply travels to the dimension of his choice (Asgard for example).

teleporting and breaking down dimensional barriers -physically- are 2 totally different things.......... you are compairing totally different things.

God, your retarted. Think of it this way, Jugs has to break the "door" down while Thor simply has to say "open sesame".