Villain For Spider-Man 3?

Started by Doc Ock297 pages
Originally posted by miroku
well only way to find out is watch a talk show

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Talk shows are giving away SM-3 spoilers now??

Originally posted by Doc Ock
What was???

It was obviously a possibility that Black Cat could be in the movie. Easy to make, no need for major CGI. Enough actresses who look like her too. Moreover, I saw Kirstin Dunst say that Venom was gonna be in the movie.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
Yeah,it keeps me awake nights worrying about it 🙄

It must bother you or you wouldn't say stuff like this:

Originally posted by Doc Ock
About the Chameleon thing being BS,despite several people here being so CERTAIN it was going to happen.

So what? You made a prediction and it happened to be right. Why does this bestow upon you the magical ability to tell everyone here to prove things as if it's a life or death court case? It's all speculation and people are allowed to speculate.

-AC

-by the way Venom in SP3 is very unlikely, they have not developed his story line in ANY of the movies, except for ONE line in SP1. "eddies been on it for weeks"-and the point of that line was not to develop eddie brock, but to prove that no one could get a photo of spidey, only a glimpse. And i dont think a scene of the spaceship launching into space was in SP2.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It was obviously a possibility that Black Cat could be in the movie. Easy to make, no need for major CGI. Enough actresses who look like her too. Moreover, I saw Kirstin Dunst say that Venom was gonna be in the movie.

Did you also see Kirsten Dunst say Lizard and Black Cat were in SM-2??? Yeah that was funny.And also a load of BS.

It's all speculation and people are allowed to speculate.

-AC

You don't say.And since when did I say they were not allowed to speculate???

I am allowed offer my opinions on their speculative ideas.And I shall continue to do so every single time 🙂

Originally posted by Doc Ock
Did you also see Kirsten Dunst say Lizard and Black Cat were in SM-2??? Yeah that was funny.And also a load of BS.

Whilst I agree that the best predictor of her current behaviour is her past actions, you should heed your own advice and not assume she's lying. If she is, then she is. I'm not saying she isn't, nor am I saying she is. I'm saying she said it.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
You don't say.And since when did I say they were not allowed to speculate???

I am allowed offer my opinions on their speculative ideas.And I shall continue to do so every single time 🙂

When did I say you said that? Shh. You feel the need to reply to and berate anyone who has any kind of unofficial source or speculation as if you're Jesus. You're not and regardless, the only way to discuss things that haven't happened is to speculate. Stop diving on people for doing so, it doesn't make you look cool.

You shouldn't be of the stance that anyone here who makes a claim you disagree with, has to prove it to you. You're not the standard or quality bearer of this forum, so don't act like it.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Whilst I agree that the best predictor of her current behaviour is her past actions, you should heed your own advice and not assume she's lying. If she is, then she is. I'm not saying she isn't, nor am I saying she is. I'm saying she said it.

I'm not saying she's lying either.

I'm saying she's doing exactly what she did with SM-2.Going on the Net and reading websites looking at who the fans think the villain is.And she assumes they're correct.

Then she goes and says "Oh yes we've got Doc Ock,the Lizard and Black Cat in SM-2".

Some people thought chocolate cake girl was Black Cat,and some even thought the guy in the elevator was Eddie Brock 🙄

Dunst has the I.Q. of a sea slug.And the looks to match.

When did I say you said that? Shh. You feel the need to reply to and berate anyone who has any kind of unofficial source or speculation as if you're Jesus.

I'm flattered that's how you percieve me.

Jesus eh.I've been called worse 😉

You're not

Awww damn.You've just crushed my fantasy world now.

Stop diving on people for doing so, it doesn't make you look cool.

I don't need to dive on people to look cool.

And I shall dive,and dive swiftly when I see suggestions like the Punisher as a villain in SM-3,or my all time favorite,the movies are suddenly turning Ultimate style.

If I see a ridiculous suggestion,I shall respond.Don't like it??? Put me on ignore then.

You shouldn't be of the stance that anyone here who makes a claim you disagree with, has to prove it to you.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.So when someone tells me we're definitely getting Venom,I should just accept that sight unseen???

Mmmmmm no don't think so.

You're not the standard or quality bearer of this forum, so don't act like it.

I'll act like it if I want 😄

Trust me,some of the lame brain suggestions made in here make Homer Simpson look like Albert Einstein.

So yes,I am the quality bearer here,along with a few other folk like Silverstein,NoFate007,and Drache53.Because none of my suggestions have sunk as low as some of the BS we've had here.And we've had some doozies.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
I'm not saying she's lying either.

I'm saying she's doing exactly what she did with SM-2.Going on the Net and reading websites looking at who the fans think the villain is.And she assumes they're correct.

Then she goes and says "Oh yes we've got Doc Ock,the Lizard and Black Cat in SM-2".

That mistake/purposeful mislead aside, Yes I'm sure she is completely unaware of who the villains are in the movies of which she is a star. That's completely realistic isn't it? Maybe Sam Raimi hinted to those characters and she said it, maybe she purposefully mislead the public. I think it's incredibly naive of you to assume she has no clue and judges by fans on the net.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
Some people thought chocolate cake girl was Black Cat,and some even thought the guy in the elevator was Eddie Brock 🙄

Dunst has the I.Q. of a sea slug.And the looks to match.

How is this relevant?

Originally posted by Doc Ock
I'm flattered that's how you percieve me.

Jesus eh.I've been called worse 😉

This proves my point, because I clearly didn't call you Jesus. You have delusions of grandure quite clearly.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
Awww damn.You've just crushed my fantasy world now.

I don't need to dive on people to look cool.

And I shall dive,and dive swiftly when I see suggestions like the Punisher as a villain in SM-3,or my all time favorite,the movies are suddenly turning Ultimate style.

Why? What do you get out of it? If they are idiots, why are they worth your time and why are you being so hypocritical as to say "People can speculate" then attempting to stop them doing so? People can speculate with or without your consent, it's not up to you. If someone wants to say all those things, they can.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
If I see a ridiculous suggestion,I shall respond.Don't like it??? Put me on ignore then.

It's not a matter of response, I am the same in that sense. It's the fact that you sit there and tell people to prove why they think things. Who are you to say that? Nobody.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.So when someone tells me we're definitely getting Venom,I should just accept that sight unseen???

If you can show me where I said to accept it, I'll stand down. You can't, cos I didn't.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
Mmmmmm no don't think so.

Neither do I, not sure where you extracted that this was my opinion.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
I'll act like it if I want 😄

Trust me,some of the lame brain suggestions made in here make Homer Simpson look like Albert Einstein.

I'm not disagreeing, but you don't have to act as though things are only true if YOU know they are. That's not how things work I'm afraid.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
So yes,I am the quality bearer here,along with a few other folk like Silverstein,NoFate007,and Drache53.Because none of my suggestions have sunk as low as some of the BS we've had here.And we've had some doozies.

No, you're not the quality bearer. Regardless of whether your movie suggestions are spot on or not (and they are just as predicted as anyone else's here, you know no more than I), the way you conduct yourself subtracts most of the credibility from your statements because you act like a mug and subsequently make yourself look like Homer Simpson.

-AC

Originally posted by Doc Ock
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Talk shows are giving away SM-3 spoilers now??


what i meant to say is see if topher shows on one like jay leno
or connan o'brian.. or david letterman.. sorry for not putting that

Originally posted by Doc Ock
So yes,I am the quality bearer here,along with a few other folk like Silverstein,NoFate007,and Drache53.Because none of my suggestions have sunk as low as some of the BS we've had here.And we've had some doozies.

thanks Doc! nice to have recognition. Yes i am on your side Doc with all this villain stuff but i do try to keep somewhat of an open mind. However, like you said before some stuff is just plain crazy...chocolate cake girl is black kat 😆 thats a black kat fan right there.

Claiming that it might be Venom isn't an outlandish claim that rabidly deserves instant concrete evidence is it?

No, so people here shouldn't act like it.

If someone claims it's definitely Venom, then you should ask for proof without insulting them. If you can't prove it, don't say it. Similarly, claiming that it might be him doesn't need proof.

Why should someone have to prove why they think something MIGHT happen when in this case, it's not terribly unlikely? They're saying one of Spidey's most famous villains might be in his final movie, oh wow! Huge speculation there...

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I think it's incredibly naive of you to assume she has no clue and judges by fans on the net.

I think it's incredibally naive of you not to believe it after her track record.

So cest la vie.

How is this relevant?

Because people were jumping to these conclusions based on Dunst's stupid ramblings.Much like they are now.

This proves my point, because I clearly didn't call you Jesus. You have delusions of grandure quite clearly.

*Comic book guy voice*

Seeing as we are unfamiliar with sarcasm,I shall disregard this ridiculous remark.

Why? What do you get out of it? If they are idiots, why are they worth your time and why are you being so hypocritical as to say "People can speculate" then attempting to stop them doing so?

How can I stop them??? Think what you're saying.I can't stop anyone on this forum doing ANYTHING.What a stupid thing to say.

What do I get out of it??? Oh I don't know.The pleasure of debate,The thrill of discussion,a darn good laugh at some of the brain farts posted here.

Take your pick.

[quote]It's the fact that you sit there and tell people to prove why they think things. Who are you to say that? Nobody.

I'm not talking about thinking.They can think the Walrus is the villain if they want.

It's when they say we're definitely getting this,that or the other.No question.

Then I ask for proof of this.

If someone says "I think it's Venom".Then I don't care.If that's what they think,then let them think it.

If you can show me where I said to accept it, I'll stand down. You can't, cos I didn't.

See remark above.

Neither do I, not sure where you extracted that this was my opinion.

Ok,if you say so.My bad there.

I'm not disagreeing, but you don't have to act as though things are only true if YOU know they are. That's not how things work I'm afraid.

I know no more than you.And have never claimed I do.And I challenge you to show me where I said I have.

But I tell you this,you don't have to be Sam Raimi to know the Punisher is not a villain in SM-3.And you can take that to the bank.

No, you're not the quality bearer.

We'll just have to agree to disagree there 🙂

the way you conduct yourself subtracts most of the credibility from your statements because you act like a mug and subsequently make yourself look like Homer Simpson.

Homer Simpson eh??? Cool 😄 A god on T.V.

I'd tell you what Simpsons character you're like,but I'm too much of a gentleman 😉

Originally posted by Silverstein
thanks Doc! nice to have recognition. Yes i am on your side Doc with all this villain stuff but i do try to keep somewhat of an open mind. However, like you said before some stuff is just plain crazy...chocolate cake girl is black kat 😆 thats a black kat fan right there.

You're welcome.Credit where credit is due.You normally keep it real.Much like I do.

And yes they thought chocolate cake girl was Black Cat,because Dunst said she was in it.

Then when we found out there was no Black Cat,people thought she was GWEN STACY!!!! 🙄

Originally posted by Doc Ock
You're welcome.Credit where credit is due.You normally keep it real.Much like I do.

And yes they thought chocolate cake girl was Black Cat,because Dunst said she was in it.

Then when we found out there was no Black Cat,people thought she was GWEN STACY!!!! 🙄

...hypocrits. Topher is Venom Topher is Electro Topher is Carnage...either way they will love whoever is casted as long as its Venom.

compared Topher being Venom(eddie brock) to Sue Storm Jessica Alba. Months ago, i recall reading about Alba getting the part and people hating her. Not an awful choice compared to a dull mildly comedic kid playing a buffed up masculine macho 6'0+ bully

Originally posted by Silverstein

compared Topher being Venom(eddie brock) to Sue Storm Jessica Alba. Months ago, i recall reading about Alba getting the part and people hating her. Not an awful choice compared to a dull mildly comedic kid playing a buffed up masculine macho 6'0+ bully

But didn't people hate Alba because of her bad acting skills???

As regards her looks,she does look like Sue Storm.

Unfortunately we cannot say Topher looks like Eddie Brock.Not by any stretch of the imagination.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
I think it's incredibally naive of you not to believe it after her track record.

So cest la vie.

Wait, are you of the belief that Kirsten Dunst, star of both existing Spider-Man movies, does not know what she's talking about? Genuinely?

Originally posted by Doc Ock
Because people were jumping to these conclusions based on Dunst's stupid ramblings.Much like they are now.

I meant her looks.

Not all of them. Many people have quoted many sources. Untrue? Perhaps. Doesn't mean you should start berating them.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
*Comic book guy voice*

Seeing as we are unfamiliar with sarcasm,I shall disregard this ridiculous remark.

If you can't take, don't give.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
How can I stop them??? Think what you're saying.I can't stop anyone on this forum doing ANYTHING.What a stupid thing to say.

What do I get out of it??? Oh I don't know.The pleasure of debate,The thrill of discussion,a darn good laugh at some of the brain farts posted here.

Take your pick.

You get thrill of debate and discussion from idiots? Thus my point.

By "stop them" I meant your demeanour on here. Not literally stopping.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
I'm not talking about thinking.They can think the Walrus is the villain if they want.

It's when they say we're definitely getting this,that or the other.No question.

Then there we go, we agree.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
If someone says "I think it's Venom".Then I don't care.If that's what they think,then let them think it.

Exactly. This was the point I originally, and continue to make.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
I know no more than you.And have never claimed I do.And I challenge you to show me where I said I have.

But I tell you this,you don't have to be Sam Raimi to know the Punisher is not a villain in SM-3.And you can take that to the bank.

I never said you claimed you do.

I also agree with your second point.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
We'll just have to agree to disagree there 🙂

Well to claim you are a quality bearer suggest that you have to first attain a certain level of quality. You haven't, factually. You're some guy on a forum.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
Homer Simpson eh??? Cool 😄 A god on T.V.

I'd tell you what Simpsons character you're like,but I'm too much of a gentleman 😉

Oh go awn...

I liken almost everyone here to Comic Book Guy or Data.

-AC

Originally posted by Doc Ock
But didn't people hate Alba because of her bad acting skills???

As regards her looks,she does look like Sue Storm.

Unfortunately we cannot say Topher looks like Eddie Brock.Not by any stretch of the imagination.

I think Alba looked good, but then I would. She didn't look like Sue Storm though. I think that movie was horrifically shit though.

Looks aren't everything, Michael Clarke Duncan played Kingpin and he was the best thing about that movie in my opinion.

-AC

Originally posted by Doc Ock
But didn't people hate Alba because of her bad acting skills???

As regards her looks,she does look like Sue Storm.

Unfortunately we cannot say Topher looks like Eddie Brock.Not by any stretch of the imagination.

ya it was about her acting lol. Are we sure Topher can act??? other than comedic roles.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
[B]Wait, are you of the belief that Kirsten Dunst, star of both existing Spider-Man movies, does not know what she's talking about? Genuinely?

After her bull s*** fest of SM-2,absolutely.

We were all psyched up to see Lizard and Ock in one movie.And then it turns out to be a load of crap.

We were cursing Dunst for months.And thanking god she was wrong about Black Cat.

I meant her looks.

Not only does she suck as an informer,but as MJ too.She looked like crap in SM-2.

Not all of them. Many people have quoted many sources. Untrue? Perhaps. Doesn't mean you should start berating them.

The only source worth showing is Sony's website.

I showed several websites saying Church and Grace were both playing the Chameleon.And look who Church turned out to be.

My point?? Random websites aren't worth diddly squat.

If you can't take, don't give.

I can do both

You get thrill of debate and discussion from idiots? Thus my point.

I wouldn't call Siverstein,Drache53 and NoFate007 idiots.Or miroku.They give me the thrill of debate.

The idiots give me the laugh.

By "stop them" I meant your demeanour on here. Not literally stopping.

I'm not going to sugar coat a response.If I think an idea or suggestion is truly terrible,then I'll say so.

You're some guy on a forum.

And I have never claimed to be anything else.

Oh go awn...

I liken almost everyone here to Comic Book Guy or Data.

-AC

You remind me of Reverend Lovejoy.

The annoying minister 😉 😄

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I think Alba looked good, but then I would. She didn't look like Sue Storm though. I think that movie was horrifically shit though.

I agree about the movie being crap.

But I thought Alba suited her part physically.Sue Storm is a beautiful blonde woman.

Looks aren't everything, Michael Clarke Duncan played Kingpin and he was the best thing about that movie in my opinion.

-AC

There's not many large,bald white men of good acting caliber.But Michael Clarke Duncan is the right size for Kingpin,he's bald,and best of all the man can act.

He was the only decent candidate.

And yes he was the only good thing in DD.

Originally posted by Silverstein
ya it was about her acting lol. Are we sure Topher can act??? other than comedic roles.

If he can,I've yet to see it.....