Villain For Spider-Man 3?

Originally posted by Doc Ock
After her bull s*** fest of SM-2,absolutely.

We were all psyched up to see Lizard and Ock in one movie.And then it turns out to be a load of crap.

We were cursing Dunst for months.And thanking god she was wrong about Black Cat.

Wow, how sad that it consumed you to that point. You got psyched up and now you blame people for doing exactly what you did. Who's the bigger fool? The fool or the fool who follows blindly?

Originally posted by Doc Ock
Not only does she suck as an informer,but as MJ too.She looked like crap in SM-2.

Aside from the fact that you all want to know about the movie before you see it and that there aren't meant to BE informers, I don't think she looked like crap. I think she could have acted a little more lively than she has done, but I think things could have been much worse.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
The only source worth showing is Sony's website.

To you.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
I showed several websites saying Church and Grace were both playing the Chameleon.And look who Church turned out to be.

My point?? Random websites aren't worth diddly squat.

Some people choose to take heed, some rabidly believe, some never believe. The point is, none of you can do anything about it. The movie will be how it ends up regardless of how right or wrong you/anybody else is on this forum.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
I wouldn't call Siverstein,Drache53 and NoFate007 idiots.Or miroku.They give me the thrill of debate.

The idiots give me the laugh.

Clearly not a visitor of the C/VG forum then.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
I'm not going to suger coat a response.If I think an idea or suggestion is truly terrible,then I'll say so.

Yes, doesn't need berating though.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
And I have never claimed to be anything else.

Goodie.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
You remind me of Reverend Lovejoy.

The annoying minister 😉 😄

Sweet, my favourite character.

As for Alba, she nailed the part physically. I made sure to pay attention to that of course. I personally don't even think she's a "bad" actress, I just don't think the role was for her. I think comic roles are very hard to pull off in the eyes of many because they have a limited time to get to know the characters by just browsing a few comics. Tobey nailed it, in my opinion. I think Chris Evans, as much as I hate him, was a decent Jonny Storm and I think Eric Bana was terrific.

The best is by far Jonah Jameson though, who's name I forgot.

-AC

what Jessica Alba did was went in for an audition for Sue Storm and convinced the people(i dont know what they're called judges?) she tried to convince them NOT to cast her as sue storm and gave a bunch of reasons and gave her own twist on sue and they like it, because what she did was unique.

the thing was good. he had the look and voice he was just...really...really short. but they always had him in pictures being really tall.

ok lets put venom aside and wait to see who topher really plays

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Wow, how sad that it consumed you to that point. You got psyched up and now you blame people for doing exactly what you did. Who's the bigger fool? The fool or the fool who follows blindly?

Consumed me?? Where do you get this stuff from?? Who said it consumed me??? Stop putting words in my mouth.

We thought we were getting an awesome classic villain with Ock,and it turned out to be false.We were pissed off over that.

If that is your definition of being consumed,then yes.I was consumed big time.

Please leave your assumptions about me at the door.Because that is being a fool,a blind one.

I don't think she looked like crap.

One man's trash is another man's treasure.

To you.

Yep.To the Spider-Man movies too 😄

Some people choose to take heed, some rabidly believe, some never believe. The point is, none of you can do anything about it. The movie will be how it ends up regardless of how right or wrong you/anybody else is on this forum.

Well thanks for pointing out the obvious 😬

You hear that guys?? We can't change how Raimi is going to make the movie.Damn.

Another fantasy smashed by the mean Alpha Centauri.

Clearly not a visitor of the C/VG forum then.

Clearly.

Yes, doesn't need berating though.

Of course it does,when they berate you for not liking their idea.

Sweet, my favourite character.

Sure he is 😉

The best is by far Jonah Jameson though, who's name I forgot.

-AC

J.K. Simmons

Originally posted by miroku
ok lets put venom aside and wait to see who topher really plays

miroku,dude if you really believe he's Venom then fair play to you.No hard feelings.

If you try and state it as a FACT,well then that's where I have the problem.We have no facts.

In fact we don't even know if he's playing a villain 😬

some people still doubt Church is playing Sandman. Claiming he is Chameleon in disguise...

Originally posted by Doc Ock
Consumed me?? Where do you get this stuff from?? Who said it consumed me??? Stop putting words in my mouth.

"Cursing Dunst for months" sort of gave me that impression. As it would anyone.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
We thought we were getting an awesome classic villain with Ock,and it turned out to be false.We were pissed off over that.

If that is your definition of being consumed,then yes.I was consumed big time.

I said it consumed you, you said I was putting words into your mouth only to admit it did. Odd.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
Please leave your assumptions about me at the door.Because that is being a fool,a blind one.

You just denied and admitted what I said in the same reply. You shouldn't be calling anyone a fool.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
One man's trash is another man's treasure.

Yeah. Or I think she looked alright and you somehow think she looked like crap.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
Yep.To the Spider-Man movies too 😄

They're not 100% factually false. I remember reading that speculation was The Goblin, it was.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
Well thanks for pointing out the obvious 😬

You hear that guys?? We can't change how Raimi is going to make the movie.Damn.

Another fantasy smashed by the mean Alpha Centauri.

Camp sarcasm aside, this is the impression many of you give off. Whether you know it and/or admit it or not is an entirely different kettle of fish.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
Of course it does,when they berate you for not liking their idea.

So being as immature back is better than just ignoring their stupidness?

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
"Cursing Dunst for months" sort of gave me that impression. As it would anyone.

Really??? Or maybe we're just good at holding a grudge.

I said it consumed you, you said I was putting words into your mouth only to admit it did. Odd.

This makes no sense at all.I admitted nothing.If that's your definition of consuming me,then yes in YOUR mind it did.

But not to the real world.

You just denied and admitted what I said in the same reply. You shouldn't be calling anyone a fool.

Oh but I am.Being pissed off over something for months does not mean it CONSUMED me.

Like I was thinking of it 24/7.Having nightmares over it.That's the impression you're giving.

Yeah. Or I think she looked alright and you somehow think she looked like crap.

Like I said,one man's trash is another man's treasure.You want the ginger haired,grandma dress wearing,bag lady,then she's all yours.

They're not 100% factually false.

Yep.99.99% usually.

Camp sarcasm aside, this is the impression many of you give off. Whether you know it and/or admit it or not is an entirely different kettle of fish.

I admit nothing.

I will not indulge the impressions you get off me.

If I had any influence over these movies,believe me you would all know it.

So being as immature back is better than just ignoring their stupidness?

-AC

I like to fight fire with fire.

Turning your back on a problem doesn't make it go away.

...So, how about that Spider-Man eh?...

Originally posted by NoFate007
...So, how about that Spider-Man eh?...

Yeah.......he's webtastic 😛 😄

But he needs to joke more in the movies.

What about this guy??

What villain do you think he's trying to cure???

Originally posted by Doc Ock
Really??? Or maybe we're just good at holding a grudge.

Yeah. So, as I said. Sad.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
This makes no sense at all.I admitted nothing.If that's your definition of consuming me,then yes in YOUR mind it did.

But not to the real world.

Holding a grudge against an actress because she said something you were not obligated to believe, but chose to out of excitement IS consumption, yes.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
Oh but I am.Being pissed off over something for months does not mean it CONSUMED me.

See above.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
Like I was thinking of it 24/7.Having nightmares over it.That's the impression you're giving.

You held a grudge against an actress for months over something you chose to believe.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
Like I said,one man's trash is another man's treasure.You want the ginger haired,grandma dress wearing,bag lady,then she's all yours.

You are fully aware that Kirsten Dunst isn't actually Mary Jane and that they gave her this clothing for the movie, correct?

Originally posted by Doc Ock
Yep.99.99% usually.

Prove it 🙂. Either way, I'm still right there.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
I admit nothing.

I will not indulge the impressions you get off me.

If I had any influence over these movies,believe me you would all know it.

You're responsible for the impressions you give, and continue to give now. I'm not deciding how you're acting, you're giving me reason to. Either way, you admitting nothing was the point, partially.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
I like to fight fire with fire.

As I said, no maturity there really. In this case.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
Turning your back on a problem doesn't make it go away.

The very fact you view it as a problem proves my point.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Sad.

Amazing.I was thinking the same of you.

Or are you giving off the wrong impression???

Holding a grudge against an actress because she said something you were not obligated to believe, but chose to out of excitement IS consumption, yes.

Sure it is.

I even had a pic of her on a dart board 🙄

See above.

I did.

It was bull s***

You held a grudge against an actress for months over something you chose to believe.

To quote you.....why shouldn't I believe an actress who's starring in the Spider-Man movies???

You are fully aware that Kirsten Dunst isn't actually Mary Jane and that they gave her this clothing for the movie, correct?

Master of the obvious again.

Are you going to tell me Spider-Man is really Peter Parker next???

Dunst had full say over her costumes,looks etc.She chose that ugly ginger wig,and some of those ugly clothes,like the granny dress she wore in the cafe scene.

She looked drained in most scenes.

Prove it 🙂. Either way, I'm still right there.

They have been wrong so far 99.99% so far with SM-1 and SM-2 🙂

You're responsible for the impressions you give, and continue to give now. I'm not deciding how you're acting, you're giving me reason to. Either way, you admitting nothing was the point, partially.

It's the impression YOU'RE getting.

You come in here and try and lecture me on how to behave???

LOL! Sorry,save it for your kids 😄

As I said, no maturity there really. In this case.

Yeah you're right.I should just roll over and take their BS 🙄

The very fact you view it as a problem proves my point.

-AC

When you come here for enjoyable discussion,yeah it's a problem.

We don't all turn our backs.

Since you're a big believer in this,why are you even bothering trying to lecture me here???

Why don't you ignore me??? That seems to be your philosophy.

Originally posted by Doc Ock

What about this guy??

What villain do you think he's trying to cure???

Depends. If Venom is in the movie, I'd assume this guy has something to do with the creation of the symbiote. If Venom isn't, its gotta be Sandman, cause I don't see them wasting time trying to extract the electricity out of Electro or something - and Mysterio, the next suitable villain for Grace to play, has no powers so they can't take that out.

Originally posted by NoFate007
Depends. If Venom is in the movie, I'd assume this guy has something to do with the creation of the symbiote. If Venom isn't, its gotta be Sandman, cause I don't see them wasting time trying to extract the electricity out of Electro or something - and Mysterio, the next suitable villain for Grace to play, has no powers so they can't take that out.

The only villain I've ever seen "cured" is the Lizard.

Most villains,well there is no cure for them.That and they have no wish to change the way they are.Except for Lizard.

It is perplexing.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
Amazing.I was thinking the same of you.

Or are you giving off the wrong impression???

Could have predicted the old "He's got me, better just say the same back to him" route.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
Sure it is.

I even had a pic of her on a dart board 🙄

Why are you making purposeful exaggerations in the futile hope that your possession of a grudge for something you chose to believe, will seem plausible?

Originally posted by Doc Ock
I did.

It was bull s***

Wasn't, you just can't handle the truth. To paraphrase Gene Hackman.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
To quote you.....why shouldn't I believe an actress who's starring in the Spider-Man movies???

Quote me? I never said that. I said she obviously knows more about what's going on, regardless of what she chooses to say. I'm not saying you're wrong for choosing to believe her, but that is what you did. You chose to believe her, she didn't force you to.

If you're gonna quote me, quote me. Don't make it up boy.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
Master of the obvious again.

Are you going to tell me Spider-Man is really Peter Parker next???

Haha, again. Camp caberet style sarcasm aside, don't make a stupid point then try to cover it with shallow humour once it's blown apart.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
Dunst had full say over her costumes,looks etc.She chose that ugly ginger wig,and some of those ugly clothes,like the granny dress she wore in the cafe scene.

Right. I said they gave her it. I didn't say they forced her into it. You referred to her looks, I said I don't think she looked bad. You may have been talking about clothing, I wasn't.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
They have been wrong so far 99.99% so far with SM-1 and SM-2 🙂

I said prove it, not say it again. Prove that exact statistic. Come on Mr. I want proof. Prove your claim correct. I want factual, undeniable proof that "they" have been wrong so far to the exact percentage of 99.99%. Either way, I'm still right. I said they're never 100% wrong.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
It's the impression YOU'RE getting.

You come in here and try and lecture me on how to behave???

LOL! Sorry,save it for your kids 😄

I'm not lecturing you. Just find it funny how know-it-all's react when someone actually appears and doesn't cower before their fake knowledge.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
Yeah you're right.I should just roll over and take their BS 🙄

Didn't say that did I? No.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
When you come here for enjoyable discussion,yeah it's a problem.

You aren't forced to reply, you choose to. Don't complain that you HAVE to reply to idiots if you're choosing to. Ignore them if they annoy you.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
We don't all turn our backs.

Since you're a big believer in this,why are you even bothering trying to lecture me here???

Why don't you ignore me??? That seems to be your philosophy.

I'm not trying to lecture you. That would imply I'm trying to get you to agree with me.

-AC

can't you feel the love here

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Could have predicted the old "He's got me, better just say the same back to him" route.

You think I'm sad.

What do you want me to do cry???

Afraid not.I know you're wrong.Nothing new there 😄

Why are you making purposeful exaggerations in the futile hope that your possession of a grudge for something you chose to believe, will seem plausible?

I'm only doing what you want me to do.Indulge your fantasies about me.

I was consumed for months in a bitter rage.Day and night I cursed the name of Kirsten Dunst.I held bonfires of her pics every week.

I wrote hate mail after hate mail to her agency.

There how does that sound?? Good???

Wasn't, you just can't handle the truth. To paraphrase Gene Hackman.

Jack Nicholson said that 😆

And I am a fountain of truth.My truth handling skills are indeed superb.

Quote me? I never said that. I said she obviously knows more about what's going on, regardless of what she chooses to say. I'm not saying you're wrong for choosing to believe her, but that is what you did. You chose to believe her, she didn't force you to.

If you're gonna quote me, quote me. Don't make it up boy.

Listen "boy",you asked me why I should not believe the leading actress in these movies.

Then you're implying I was somehow foolish to choose to believe her???

Haha, again. Camp caberet style sarcasm aside, don't make a stupid point then try to cover it with shallow humour once it's blown apart.

Thanks for the tip.

I'll be sure to do that when you blow one of my points apart 🙂

I said prove it, not say it again. Prove that exact statistic. Come on Mr. I want proof. Prove your claim correct. I want factual, undeniable proof that "they" have been wrong so far to the exact percentage of 99.99%. Either way, I'm still right. I said they're never 100% wrong.

If you can find websites still sporting rumours from movies released for over a year,or in SM-1's case years,then I tip my hat to you.

I'm not lecturing you. Just find it funny how know-it-all's react when someone actually appears and doesn't cower before their fake knowledge.

I aim to please.

Know it all.Yep that's me 😄

Fake knowledge eh.What fake knowledge have I given?? What fake facts have I offered??

Show me please as I'm afraid my know it all brain does not recall doing so.

Didn't say that did I? No.

You said ignore them.

If we ignore the ideas here then what's the point of coming here???

Don't know about you but I come here to discuss.Good ideas and bad.

You aren't forced to reply, you choose to. Don't complain that you HAVE to reply to idiots if you're choosing to. Ignore them if they annoy you.

Like I said above,I discuss every idea here.Good and bad.

Just like with your posts 😉

That would imply I'm trying to get you to agree with me.

Oh good.Because that ain't gonna happen 😉

Originally posted by miroku
can't you feel the love here

In every pore in my body.

Oh come on this is fun 😉

I've been called know it all,sad,Homer Simpson,consumed with rage over Kirsten Dunst,and more I'm sure I've forgotten 😄

Originally posted by Doc Ock
You think I'm sad.

What do you want me to do cry???

Afraid not.I know you're wrong.Nothing new there 😄

Obviously multiple contexts and meanings of a singular word are lost on you.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
I'm only doing what you want me to do.Indulge your fantasies about me.

I was consumed for months in a bitter rage.Day and night I cursed the name of Kirsten Dunst.I held bonfires of her pics every week.

I wrote hate mail after hate mail to her agency.

There how does that sound?? Good???

As I said, exacerbating to an uneccessary degree doesn't remove from the fact that simply holding a grudge against an actress for a choice YOU made, is sad.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
Jack Nicholson said that 😆

And I am a fountain of truth.My truth handling skills are indeed superb.

No, you just didn't get Jack Nicholson confused with Gene Hackman. I've never seen that movie, just know the quote.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
Listen "boy",you asked me why I should not believe the leading actress in these movies.

Then you're implying I was somehow foolish to choose to believe her???

Stop making over-leaps of logic. I'm saying that believing her isn't unreasonable. However, in the event you CHOOSE to believe her, it's your own fault that you get burned. Not hers.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
Thanks for the tip.

I'll be sure to do that when you blow one of my points apart 🙂

We'll see what happens when you come to the percentage proving then.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
If you can find websites still sporting rumours from movies released for over a year,or in SM-1's case years,then I tip my hat to you.

What did we say about not making claims you can't back up? We said it's not good to do it didn't we? You are now one of those which you dislike. Congrats on being a hypocrite.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
I aim to please.

Know it all.Yep that's me 😄

Fake knowledge eh.What fake knowledge have I given?? What fake facts have I offered??

Show me please as I'm afraid my know it all brain does not recall doing so.

Until you prove that little percent claim true, I'm gonna assume you made it up. Prove me wrong please.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
You said ignore them.

If we ignore the ideas here then what's the point of coming here???

To discuss, have a good discussion, as you said. There are plenty here to do so with. Ignoring the idiots won't harm that.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
Don't know about you but I come here to discuss.Good ideas and bad.

Yeah, you can discuss bad ideas with people who are smart enough to discuss. Not idiots.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
Oh good.Because that ain't gonna happen 😉

Yeah, that was mega-relevant.

Anyway, you have some research to do.

-AC