Originally posted by Linkalicious
He got his back broken by Bane.Doesn't get much more human than that.
and yet he still managed to eventually heal and get back to the crime fighting scene. one would assume that after getting your back broken you either die, get comatose, get paralyzed, get crippled, or merely never heal to 100% again. but i guess yes, its possible to heal from that, especially if you have bruce's money, but having a formerly broken back should have made him more susceptible to back injury later on.
im not that much of a bat fan, so im gonna ask... how long did it take for bats to recover from his broken back? what did it take for him to recover?
i really doubt any batman fans would want him to never recover lol
same thing for superman fans
same thing in the witchblade comics, they voted for two characters to die, and it was the least important characters at the time, not much witchblade fans wanted sarah to die, although someone else would inherit the witchblade, anyway this is off-topic lol
i really dont think there should be a problem with batman fans thinking he isnt a human, but the batman fans will keep backing up bruce's humanism and other batman fans will try to say he isnt, either way theyre batman fans lol
i dont consider daredevil human either, i mean blind people dont get eyes capable of picking up sound levels...
i think i agree with bruce campbell saying sure batman is a human but how many people do you actually know that have billions of dollars, and if Ash says it, i agree
as opposed to spiderman having all these amazing powers, but still scrounging up money to have a crappy apartment and how being spiderman effects his relationship with the people around him
Originally posted by FrothByte
one would assume that after getting your back broken you either die, get comatose, get paralyzed, get crippled
Exactly! Being human, Bruce was confined to a wheelchair for the entire Knightquest story arc. How he was healed had nothing to do with him being human or nonhuman--it had to do with him living in a comic book universe where people have options they don't usually have; in Batman's case, find a meta with healing talents.
im not that much of a bat fan, so im gonna ask... how long did it take for bats to recover from his broken back? what did it take for him to recover?
I'm not sure how many months in real-time it took for him to be healed--I think it was a while. The actual healing process, being supernatural, was instantanious, I think, but Batman--again, being only human, with muscels that atrophy and skills that decay with nonuse--had to extensively retrain after being confined to a wheelchair for so long.
Originally posted by Havoc470
as opposed to spiderman having all these amazing powers, but still scrounging up money to have a crappy apartment and how being spiderman effects his relationship with the people around him
I know more rich people (two, where "rich" is defined as "having enough money to live in a mansion"😉 than I know people with spider powers. And if you've ever read a Batman comic, you know that being Batman drastically effects his relationship with those around him, too.
two, in your entire life, and having a mansion is not rich compared to having an estate and a huge booming business, and i meant although he has the powers of a spider, he has alot more real problems
and i've read alot of batman comics and i dont really think his relationship with people is real from my point of view, im not trying to be un-even here but thats the way i've always seen it
Originally posted by Havoc470
two, in your entire life, and having a mansion is not rich compared to having an estate and a huge booming business, and i meant although he has the powers of a spider, he has alot more real problems
1) Well, I'm only twenty years old, and I live in a little town; billionairs do not congrigate in Williamsport
3) If by estate you mean grounds (a tennis court and pool and what-not), they have them, too.
4) By contrast, I only know one person who is struggling to make ends meet, and I only know him by sight, and he still owns his house, rather than scrounging for money to rent an appartment.
I always here about Spiderman's real-world problems. I guess that's true. I mean, who among us hasn't had a dead girlfriend shoved into his refridgerator at some point in his life?
Originally posted by FrothByte
a prodigy is someone who is extremely good in doing a certain aspect in life, maybe one or two. someone who is an extreme prodigy might be able to be extremely good in about 3 areas... but that's about it.someone who is a prodigy in martial arts, engineering, science, business, carpentry, detective work, flirting with girls, earning money, jumping off high places, going toe to toe with super beings.... well that's not a human prodigy no more. what you have there is a demi god.
Batman will NEVER be human because he's a human that does superhuman feats that are impossible for humans to accomplish. I started kickboxing at 6 and im still not a master at it.
shaolin monks go to the temple at what, 7? they live their whole lives training there and still no one gets to master what bruce wayne did.
I like Batman and I respect him, but I go berserk whenever somebody says :"Ooh, Batman, the rich prodigy / playboy living in a mansion with a butler / chairman of a very large company / best detective / member of the JLA / amazing inventor /amazing and almost unbeatable crimefighter / master of dozens martial arts with his ever analyzing mind, I love him because he's so human."
What the... ?!
It's only a comic book character, so I have absolutely no problem with his almost perfect abilities. But don't tell me he's just a man like you and me, because he's NOT. Writers tend to exaggerate him, and it will take lots of years to convince the Batman fans of this fact.
Spider-Man is, character-wise, a lot more human than Batman.
Originally posted by Linkalicious
IT'S.A.
COMIC.
BOOK.
I don't see you guys giving Superman sh!t for what he's able to do. Everything Batman does is HUMAN, he just covers a large enough spectrum for it to seem inhuman.
Superman has a condition that lets the magic comic logic flow in.
Flash: I got hit by lightning and now I run faster than light. Go nuts!
Cyclops: I absorb sunlight that opens a hole into an energy dimension though my eyes... because I'm a mutant! More power to ya!
Wonder Woman: The gods gave me my powers and they oddly all look like they're for killing Superman so all 7 girls that read my comics can be proud! Whatever.
Batman: I'm just a man. But I'm going to be the absolute best at everything and have an inconceivably rare collection of conditions that let me manage all this without going insane. Also, I know everything. Is that okay? No.
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Batman: I'm just a man. But I'm going to be the absolute best at everything and have an inconceivably rare collection of conditions that let me manage all this without going insane. Also, I know everything. Is that okay? No.
Yes. What with being a comic book and everything.
Originally posted by Gregory
1) Well, I'm only twenty years old, and I live in a little town; billionairs do not congrigate in Williamsport
3) If by estate you mean grounds (a tennis court and pool and what-not), they have them, too.
4) By contrast, I only know one person who is struggling to make ends meet, and I only know him by sight, and he still owns his house, rather than scrounging for money to rent an appartment.I always here about Spiderman's real-world problems. I guess that's true. I mean, who among us hasn't had a dead girlfriend shoved into his refridgerator at some point in his life?
i dont know where you live, but i see people struggling with paying their rent (who by the way dont have superhero alter-ego's) all the time, it happens to everyone
I'd like to point out here that Batman is just one of a long line of exagerated humans. Nobody complains that Nero Wolfe isn't human, because of the range of his knowledge, or that Fu Manchu isn't human because he knows so much about so many obscure things, or that James Bond isn't human, because of all the absurd stunts he pulls, or that Indiana Jones isn't human, because he survived being dragged by a truck without any sort of injury ... sure Batman's exagerated, but so what? Of all the exagerated characters of literature, why is Batman the one people have decided can't be exagerated or he "isn't human?"
And I'll be blunt; as long as the characters are interesting, I'm not too worried about "relating to them." I have to be able to empathise for them, sure, but not put myself in their shoes. As it happens, I can relate to Batman better than Spider Man, not because I'm similiar to him economically, but because our personalities are much closer.
because this topic isnt called "james bond vs. wait for it....." or any of the other names you've previously mentioned, its about batman and thats why we're all discussing him
i dont put myself in anyones shoe's either, i just read a comic and think "that's happened to me alot" which isnt anything amazing, but its happened to me reading alot of marvel comics lol
Originally posted by Never
So why did you open your big mouth and type, QUOTE:
Because, AS USUAL, you MISINTERPRETED a statement and yeehawed your high horse in here attempting to refute it. Odd...why would I say that "homo superior" as Marvel knows it does not exist in the DCU and then turn around and say that he was a MUTANT (pursuant to Marvel's definition)? Duh.
If I didn't know any better, Batman was really fighting a mutant (homo superior, also known as homo Who?-Kidianus) instead of only the leader of a gang called The Mutants.LoL, what a blow hard. After the comic book creators - and anyone halfway familiar with the character - claimed that he is human, you keep chopping wood and claim that he is not. Black Panther is much more resourceful than Batman is.
If you say so.Actually Sherlock Holmes is. Do you REALLY read comic books?
No, I only cut out the pictures.
Again, it's you who should really read more carefully : I said Batman is the best detective of his time. And then you say something retarded like : Actually Sherlock Holmes is.
Popquiz : since when is Sherlock Holmes considered as "from the same time as Batman ?" Hm ? I wrote from his time, not "the best detective ever." You do realize that Batman certainly wasn't even born when Sherlock Holmes died ? He died at the end of the 19th century !
But still, according to you Batman is not the greatest detective of his time, but Batman. Sure, and Picasso was not the greatest painter of his time, but Leonardo da Vinci.
Two remarks
a. I know Batman met Sherlock Holmes once (maybe more, don't know and don't care) in an old ! comic, and back then he was already over a hundred years old. If we are very kind, we can say that Holmes was 70 or more years older than Batman. That's a bit to much too compare Batman and Holmes and to decide who's the greatest detective of Batman's time. Holmes was long retired when Bruce Wayne's parents were still alive.
And I even don't know of this story belongs in the Batman-continuity...
b. Holmes is not the best detective. Poirot is much better.