wolverine vs colossus

Started by SamZED57 pages

Its all about strength really. I believe adamantium can cut Colossus but Logan doesnt have the strength to gutt him. IMO its like this - First attack might not leave a mark on Piotr, second one would be a scratch, third a deeper scratch and so on.

Originally posted by carver9
I love wolverine as a character and I am going to HATE saying this since Pr posted this but I agree with evrything he just said.

I also do not believe that wolverine is capable of cutting colossus without some type of outside source aiding him.

Just my opinion though.

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Wow. I can log off now. That made the year of 2010 for me.

Originally posted by SamZED
Its all about strength really. I believe adamantium can cut Colossus but Logan doesnt have the strength to gutt him. IMO its like this - First attack might not leave a mark on Piotr, second one would be a scratch, third a deeper scratch and so on.
I agree. Logan seemed to be on fire when he was able to cut Colossus.

i kinda see it that way... slicing rather then stabbing will just scour his armor and weaken it after repeated slashes eventually Logan will cut clean through..

as for stabbing, i see logan punching in to the hilt but not putting colossus down since his innards are energy and slit holes arent going to heavily effect him at least need serieou physical maiming would be needed to put colossus down or a throat stab.

Originally posted by King Castle
i kinda see it that way... slicing rather then stabbing will just scour his armor and weaken it after repeated slashes eventually Logan will cut clean through..

as for stabbing, i see logan punching in to the hilt but not putting colossus down since his innards are energy and slit holes arent going to heavily effect him at least need serieou physical maiming would be needed to put colossus down or a throat stab.

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I like King Castle.

Originally posted by SamZED
Its all about strength really. I believe adamantium can cut Colossus but Logan doesnt have the strength to gutt him. IMO its like this - First attack might not leave a mark on Piotr, second one would be a scratch, third a deeper scratch and so on.
That's how I see it myself. Or like sharp wire to a person. It can cut, but not instantly fatal without some good force.

Originally posted by SamZED
Its all about strength really. I believe adamantium can cut Colossus but Logan doesnt have the strength to gutt him. IMO its like this - First attack might not leave a mark on Piotr, second one would be a scratch, third a deeper scratch and so on.
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Originally posted by Badabing
Wolverine's claws ablaze in some sort of fire at the end of Daken #2 shows me his claws had enhanced properties.

Different writer and artist. In Wolverine #4 his claws weren't on hellfire. In fact, Logan's body was on hellfire only in a single panel in that issue.

I had to say that. I'm ready for my punishment 🙁

So I read the recent fight. My question is this:

Why does the pro Colossus side have to provide evidence that Wolverine was amped?

If the only change were red glowing eyes, then they'd have a case. I however just saw Wolverine fail to do anything to Colossus, and get manhandled.

He flies(?) back in moments later, and cuts through Colossus like a hot knife through butter. He then goes on to breath f*cking hell fire to incapacitate Iceman, uses the damn force chock on Shadow Cat, and does some type of penance stare(?) on Angel.

After reading that issue and seeing the huge leap in effectiveness, I think assuming there's some type of physical amp is the logical think to do until there is evidence to the contrary. Dude was breathing f*cking fire, yet having his strength augmented is what people find far fetched. Ttelekinesis alone can be used to augment his ability to cut through materials.

Adamantium is clearly much tougher than Colossus skin, and I think that doing superficial damage (Ala Thor) is something well within Wolverine's ability to do (At least currently). I don't however think the recent fight can be used to support the "Wolverine can cut Colossus" stance.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I had to say that. I'm ready for my punishment 🙁
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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So I read the recent fight. My question is this:

Why does the pro Colossus side have to provide evidence that Wolverine was amped?

If the only change were red glowing eyes, then they'd have a case. I however just saw Wolverine fail to do anything to Colossus, and get manhandled.

He flies(?) back in moments later, and cuts through Colossus like a hot knife through butter. He then goes on to breath f*cking hell fire to incapacitate Iceman, uses the damn force chock on Shadow Cat, and does some type of penance stare(?) on Angel.

After reading that issue and seeing the huge leap in effectiveness, I think assuming there's some type of physical amp is the logical think to do until there is evidence to the contrary. Dude was breathing f*cking fire, yet having his strength augmented is what people find far fetched. Ttelekinesis alone can be used to augment his ability to cut through materials.

Adamantium is clearly much tougher than Colossus skin, and I think that doing superficial damage (Ala Thor) is something well within Wolverine's ability to do (At least currently). I don't however think the recent fight can be used to support the "Wolverine can cut Colossus" stance.

Quick question. You don't think Wolverine could seriously cut Thor in a fight? I'm just curious.

Superficial damage at best. No damage at all if we use Thor anywhere near his higher end showings.

If Wolverine could give Thor more than a paper cut, the Odinson would have died a long time ago. He recently took a slash from an amped Hela wielding the Twilight Sword for example (Albeit he was pretty hurt. Nice showing of Thor's healing factor though.)

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Different writer and artist. In Wolverine #4 his claws weren't on hellfire. In fact, Logan's body was on hellfire only in a single panel in that issue.

I had to say that. I'm ready for my punishment 🙁

Enjoy your warning.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Superficial damage at best. No damage at all if we use Thor anywhere near his higher end showings.

what higher showings...when has thor ever resisted being cut?

I think this has been closed long enough.

Pr and I never said Logan was stronger. But given that his demonic possession bestowed new powers, we decided that the cutting feat was not applicable to a standard Wolverine.

This falls back to the CB vs forum rules regarding power ups.

Please keep this thread civil and on topic. Any questions regarding mod decisions should be done via PMs. Thank you.

durverine

Bump! ohno

Wolverine wins more often then not. Colossus only chance is to BFR which should prove difficult with Logan due to his overall MA skills and speed.

plus.. i see logan wrapping himself around Colossus throat stabbing him repeatedly.

Originally posted by SamZED
Its all about strength really. I believe adamantium can cut Colossus but Logan doesnt have the strength to gutt him. \.

which there zero evidence he not strong enough. that is a myth created by the boards. This has never once been implied or even hinted at. Actaully all the evidence pretty much shows he can damage colossus and that the narrative, wolverine and colossus all agree, but people will deny this to the grave and make up magically reason for why he cant hurt colossus despite the fact there no evidence for it.

Originally posted by jinzin

Doesn't seem to be fair rhetoric.

true, but hoping for people to be fair when discussing wolverine is wishful thinking on are part.