Originally posted by carver9
I love wolverine as a character and I am going to HATE saying this since Pr posted this but I agree with evrything he just said.I also do not believe that wolverine is capable of cutting colossus without some type of outside source aiding him.
Just my opinion though.
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Originally posted by carver9You've come a long way Carve. You may make 4 posts per day now. sneer
I love wolverine as a character and I am going to HATE saying this since Pr posted this but I agree with evrything he just said.I also do not believe that wolverine is capable of cutting colossus without some type of outside source aiding him.
Just my opinion though.
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Originally posted by -Pr-
[b]Both Bada and I have talked about it, and read the issue, and we've come to the conclusion that feats used while possessed are not allowed. So that means that you can argue that Logan can cut Colossus, but based on what we've seen, using the scans from the recent Wolverine issue wouldn't be a valid way of doing so. Nor will any other feats performed while enhanced. [/B]
Fairly reasonable.. But I have to ask.
If this arc ends and there's no other explanation used to detail said enhancements then can we use this as evidence to support the evidence that already exists? To say no doesn't seem to be very fair in context of the situation.
Originally posted by King Castle
i was wondering the same thing but i seen some of his latest post. it appears his opinion on a certain character is starting to make a 180.i think Colossus is behind him with a gun telling him what to type,.
Lol...
Its not like that, I have always thought of colossus as one if the peeps that logan claws would fail to cut.
Originally posted by jinzin
Fairly reasonable.. But I have to ask.
If this arc ends and there's no other explanation used to detail said enhancements then can we use this as evidence to support the evidence that already exists? To say no doesn't seem to be very fair in context of the situation.
Why would you want to? From our perspective, it was evidence that he was amped, and not at his standard levels.
Because him cutting Collosus isn't evidence of an amp.... 😕
That's the issue that needed to be answered in the first place, no need to dismiss it because it's not the answer that some parties expected.
It's just a matter of "the only time's Wolverine's attempted to cut Collosus, he did"...
Though I'll be honest, I never really thought this comic would change anything IF Collosus did get cut. Just too easy to call.
Originally posted by carver9you know early 90's when Omega had carbonadium molecule covered skin and was not just albino, Wolverine manage to scratch and get some small puncture scratches on Omega...
Lol...Its not like that, I have always thought of colossus as one if the peeps that logan claws would fail to cut.
what lvl of durability do you place colossus skin density when compared to Carbonadium skin or Coils?
Bottom line is a character possessed is not going to be admissible, especially when shown to have range of new abilities. We've never let people use feats by possessed characters, unless the thread specified it. This is nothing new.
To clear things up, Wolverine was possessed, he had extras abilities. This particular cutting feat is null and void.
Wolverine is in several titles per month. I'm sure there are other showings you all can find.
Pr and I talked about this and we're standing by our decision, which correlates with CB vs forum rules and set precedent.
Any other issues can be taken to a PM.
About this specific issue? There isn't other evidence to draw from.
It's fine if you're dismissing the amped Wolverine for a normal Wolverine in a general vs. thread/discussion... But this isn't that.
This is specific to Wolverine's ability to cut Colossus, a notion that heavily rests in Wolverine's claws, and Wolverine's strength.
We know Wolverine's claws haven't changed... or at least, for the better anyways so the only thing left to dismiss the feat itself is if he's got a strength upgrade... to claim so without an indication of that being the case is neglecting the most important and relivent evidence to this specific discussion so far based soley on the conjecture that Logan had some physical amp that was never suggested.
Doesn't seem to be fair rhetoric.
Originally posted by King Castle
you know early 90's when Omega had carbonadium molecule covered skin and was not just albino, Wolverine manage to scratch and get some small puncture scratches on Omega...what lvl of durability do you place colossus skin density when compared to Carbonadium skin or Coils?
I think colossus durability is much higher than omegas skin. Colossus durability has allowed him to withstand numerous of punches from an enraged hulk, punches from gladiator, and blows from a pissed juggernaut.
You all are underating his durability. Give wolverine a lil more strength and yes, I would agree, wolverine would slice through him like butter.
Originally posted by carver9not just skin but also Carbonadium coils?
I think colossus durability is much higher than omegas skin. Colossus durability has allowed him to withstand numerous of punches from an enraged hulk, punches from gladiator, and blows from a pissed juggernaut.You all are underating his durability. Give wolverine a lil more strength and yes, I would agree, wolverine would slice through him like butter.
these are things that Wolverine has scored through and bit deep into...
taking blunt damage is not the same as piercing slicing damage.
so you are placing Colossus organic skin over Carbonadium?
Originally posted by King Castle
not just skin but also Carbonadium coils?these are things that Wolverine has scored through and bit deep into...
taking blunt damage is not the same as piercing slicing damage.
so you are placing Colossus organic skin over Carbonadium?
Yes, colossus is more durable imo. its not just the metal that is aiding colossus durability, its also backed by that 100 ton power and I have as of yet to see him get cut unless there were some type of amp involved and I'm not referring to classic colossus since he is much weaker than his current version.
colossus metal is not actually from this universe anyways, I remember a comic stated that it comes from a pocket dimension everytime he transforms but is compared somewhat to osmium
if you look up osmium it is the densest metal in the universe, so no matter how sharp/strong something is its going to need some good amount of force to cut it
Originally posted by jinzinWolverine's claws ablaze in some sort of fire at the end of Daken #2 shows me his claws had enhanced properties. Bottom line, he was possessed and showed several other abilities he never had. You wanting this to count does not change anything and certainly won't change CB vs forum rules. Your continued arguing with mods makes it worse. The feat is void. Use other feats.
About this specific issue? There isn't other evidence to draw from.It's fine if you're dismissing the amped Wolverine for a normal Wolverine in a general vs. thread/discussion... But this isn't that.
This is specific to Wolverine's ability to cut Colossus, a notion that heavily rests in Wolverine's claws, and Wolverine's strength.
We know Wolverine's claws haven't changed... or at least, for the better anyways so the only thing left to dismiss the feat itself is if he's got a strength upgrade... to claim so without an indication of that being the case is neglecting the most important and relivent evidence to this specific discussion so far based soley on the conjecture that Logan had some physical amp that was never suggested.Doesn't seem to be fair rhetoric.
Originally posted by jinzinDon't BS Jinzin, I spoke to you about this same behavior last month. Arguing with a mods decision on an open thread isn't a case by case rule. It always stands. In this case it's 2 mods.
Oops, sorry, I didn't see the PM statement.
Next bit of argument I see aimed at me or Pr regarding our decision will result in a warning or temp ban.