Originally posted by wingless_angelThe Storm Troopers will be cloned from a number of different sources. Lots of bureaucrats will become cloning sources by the time of ANH. The gene pool will be polluted with lots of poor shooting rich tycoon DNA.
How the Stormtroopers lost so much skills between 2 and 4 (lol...they all got old and didnt clone anymore was my guess lol...doubt they will cover this though)
Originally posted by jedijunky1138
The Storm Troopers will be cloned from a number of different sources. Lots of bureaucrats will become cloning sources by the time of ANH. The gene pool will be polluted with lots of poor shooting rich tycoon DNA.
I still think the ones seen in ep 4 are cloned from anakin
<quote> I still think the ones seen in ep 4 are cloned from anakin </quote>
HA and I say again HA. They Clone Jango and they get kick ass trooper, they clone Anakin and they get lil handicap people(AKA Stormtroopers)
LOL....and I say again HA.
I think their all clones of Jar Jar Binks, think about it. Their useless lol, stupid, bump their heads of doors. and Jar Jar did help give The Emp. all the power after all lol. So he did help the Empire come about.
it is said at tfn that the jedi who erased kamino was seen onscreen in ep2. no quigon, no palpatine.
not dooku, as dooku left before the thing was erased.
watch ep2 again and see if anyone seems suspicious. i dont think it was jocasta either.
i reckon it was someone like quinlan vos (not him exactly, but someone with his personality and the "i'll do what i want" kinda attitude"😉
Originally posted by jedijunky1138
It's Jocasta I'm telling you. Wait and see she has the ability, motive, and she showed signs of irritation with Obi-Wan when he was searching the archives. You all are gonna have to eat a lot of crow when this turns out to be true. 😆
See these plates containing ERIC RAVEN,the crows from DUMBO,the crow from DAMIEN THE OMEN2,the crow from the KIA ORA drink advertisement and RUSSEL CROWe???...........well they are staying put cause aint no one eating crow
Though Jedi Junky may be eating his words
Jocasta Nu?
JOCASTA NU?
JOCASTA?
NU?
if its Jocasta Nu then Chewie is a SITH!
i know supershadows shifty, but on his site you should read about the history of the jedi. very cool (although possibly not real) but its got that palps went to find three people to choose one as an aprentice - dooku, sifo dyas, and some other loser. sifo dyas was killed and so was the other loser. dooku ordered the clones under sifo dyas name, as kamino was expecting him. and the guy that erased the file was some other jedi loser (i doubt hes real, it was probably dooku). interesting read, but possibly false info.
Found this on a site, in the AOTC section - Might be true might not be true, i just thought i'd bring it to your attention:
In the finished film, there are various mentions of a Jedi named SIFO-DYAS. However, in the earlier drafts of the film, the name of the Jedi was SIDO-DYAS. The details surrounding this elusive Jedi are sketchy and have changed quite a bit from development to the screen. In the beginning, Sido-Dyas was labeled an imposter and the Jedi seem to have no knowledge of him. However, in the finished film, Sifo-Dyas was a Jedi who was killed almost ten years before the events of EPISODE II. For whatever reason, the circumstances surrounding the mystery of Sifo/Sido-Dyas were rearranged.
There are too many mentions of both Sido and Sifo-Dyas in the different versions of the screenplay so I won't quote every excerpt in here. I'll try to explain them all as easily as possible.
Note: Items from The Art Of Attack of the Clones version are denoted with (*), items from the 2nd draft are denoted with (**) and items common to both versions are denoted with (***). Keep in mind that in the 2nd draft, the name Sido-Dyas is used and in the Art Of draft, the name Sifo-Dyas is used. For common items, I won't list anything twice - you'll have to make the name switch yourself. I'll use Sifo-Dyas as the default name.
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Excerpts: From The Art of Attack of the Clones (*) and an alleged early draft(**). Items common to both screenplays are denoted with (***):
The first mention of Sifo/Sido-Dyas occurs in the same place in both screenplay versions, when Obi-Wan first meets Lama Su.
*** LAMA SU
Please tell your Master Sido-Dyas that
we have every confidence his order will
be met on time and in full.
He is well, I hope.
Another mention of Sifo/Sido-Dyas occurs when Obi-Wan is asking about who the host of the clone army is. The only difference in the versions is Lama Su's partial line at the end, denoted by the (**).
*** OBI-WAN
Who was the original host?
*** LAMA SU
A bounty hunter called Jango Fett.
We felt a Jedi would be the perfect choice,
but Sido-Dyas hand-picked Jango Fett
himself.
*** OBI-WAN
Where is this bounty hunter now?
*** LAMA SU
Oh, we keep him here.
[** After a few hundred thousand clones,
the genetic pattern starts to fade,
so we take a fresh supply.
He lives here, but he's free to come
and go as he pleases.]
Another mention of Sifo/Sido-Dyas occurs during the Tipoca City tour when Obi-Wan asks about accelerated growth. Obi-Wan's last question is the only difference here.
*** OBI-WAN
You mentioned growth acceleration...
*** LAMA SU
Oh yes, it's essential. Otherwise, a mature clone
would take a lifetime to grow. Now, we can
do it in half the time. Those items you saw on the
parade ground were started ten years ago,
when Sifo-Dyas first placed the order,
and they're already mature.
** OBI-WAN looks at the BOY CLONE
** OBI-WAN
And these?
** LAMA SU
About five years ago.
Yet another mention of Sifo/Sido-Dyas occurs during the Tipoca City tour when Obi-Wan is inspecting the embryo hatchery. Some of these lines were later moved up to the scene where Lama Su first meets Obi-Wan.
** OBI-WAN
(carefully) Tell me, Prime Minister, when my
Master Sido-Dyas first contacted you,
did he say the order was for… himself…or…?
** LAMA SU
Himself? Of course not.
This army is for the Republic!
** OBI-WAN
(astonished) The Republic?
** LAMA SU
We are also very much against this Count
Dooku and his secessionist movement.
We are proud to be of help to the Republic.
As discussed earlier, when Obi-Wan contacts Mace Windu and Yoda to tell him of what he's learned on Kamino, there's a mention of Sido/Sifo-Dyas again.
** 71 INT JEDI TEMPLE, MACE WINDU´S QUARTERS - EARLY EVENING
Yoda and Mace Windu listen as a hologram of Obi-Wan stands between them broadcasting the message. The signal is very weak, the image fades in and out.
** OBI-WAN (V.O.)
I've never heard of a Jedi called
Sido-Dyas, have you, Master?
** MACE WINDU
No. Whoever placed that order was
not a Jedi, I can assure you.
** OBI-WAN (V.O.)
I have a strong feeling that this bounty hunter
is the assassin we're looking for.
** YODA
Who he is working for…
discover that, you must.
** OBI-WAN (V.O.)
I will, Master, and I will also find out more
about this clone army… May The Force…
** The hologram switches off, and OBI-WAN fades away.
** MACE WINDU
A clone army! Ordered by someone in the
Senate perhaps… Someone's out to start a way.
** YODA
Inform the Chancellor of this,
we must.
** MACE WINDU
Who do you think this impostor,
Sido-Dyas, could be?
Sido/Sifo-Dyas comes up again in the conversation in Jango Fett's apartment. Taun We is the main culprit this time. Most of the lines here in all the versions are the same except it appears Taun We's line was removed. Obi-Wan asks Jango if he knows of a Sido/Sifo-Dyas and the dialogue from the finished film ensues, except as I've said, Taun We's line and also Jango's mention of DARTH Tyranus (as opposed to just Tyranus in the film.)
*** OBI-WAN
Sifo-Dyas. Isn't he the Jedi who
hired you for this job?
*** JANGO FETT
Never heard of him. I was recruited by a man called
[** Darth] Tyranus on one of the moons of Bogden.
*** OBI-WAN
No? I thought…
*** TAUN WE
Sifo-Dyas told us to expect him. And he showed
up just when your Jedi Master said he would.
We have kept the Jedi's involvement a secret until
your arrival, just as your Master requested.
*** OBI-WAN
Curious…
Well, first of all I'd like to add my two cents and say I think it was Dooku and that he did it right before he left the Order. That aside, no matter who erased, <i>they did a lousy job of it!</i> Seriously! Obi noticed that the stars were still in orbit around something, so anyone who knows anything about space could have said "hm, there's a planet there!" Combine that with the fact that nobody knows where Kamino went to, and poof! Missing planet found!
Honestly, do a better job of erasing data next time, who wouldn't notice that the stars are orbiting <i>something?</i>
It is quite simple. Dooku erased Kamino from the Archives. Palps plan was for the Jedi to find the clones first, he had his inside man (Dooku) do some dirty work for him, before leaving the Jedi Order. A Jedi supposedly ordered the clones (but it was really Palps), thus making the Jedi look like warmongerers, wanting to start a conflict with the Separatists. Palps wants the Jedi to look bad in the eyes of the Senate, as a preultimate to ROTS, where he outs Windu as an assassin trying to kill him. And Anakin, his bodyguard, saves him and kills Windu. Using all of this "fabricated evidence" he declares the Jedi to be rebels. Palps had a gene sequence programmed into the clones, "Order 66" which gave Palps complete control over the them and he orders them to kill all the Jedi. Taking out his only opposition in taking over the galaxy. Like clcokwork. Palps is a political mastermind.