this is an offshoot question, but it kinda deals with this part of the movie.
If dooku ordered the clones from kamino under sifo-dyas' name (i assume so no one from the republic could find out who really ordered them), Why would dooku order the clones for the republic if the republic would just use them to fight his own droid armies anyway. it is like he is fighting himself and wanted the republic to come sweep in and win the battle of geonosis. maybe it was a big diversion or something because he knew sideous was really gaining control of the republic secretly and he is working with sideous (which no one knows yet...or until the end of ep. II), So if the republic has the clones, eventually sideous would gain control of these clones after taking over the republic, giving sideous and dooku double military power. Because the republic was kind of against the idea of a droid army until they needed it to fight the CIS. So it seems like a big trick on the republic basically.
this is what i see is happening, does that seem accurate?
but i just thought of something else, if this all is accurate, then why wouldn't dooku just order the clones for himself, or the CIS pursay, and then he would have a gargancious army and could team up with sideous that way. ahhh, maybe it is because the kaminoians would only create a clone army for the republic, not for some separatist movement. that makes sense...i think
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Here's what I think, epolieboy.
Ok, we all know the Republic becomes the Empire. Dooku started the separatist movement to challenge the Republic and make the Senate vote to get an army. Sidious/Palps wants to take over the galaxy and turn the Republic into the Empire. To do this, he needs an army. Dooku needed to give the Republic a reason to get an army, so Dooku started the separatists going. It's all a plot by Dooku and Sidious to get the Republic enough power to take over as the Empire. A pretty good plan too if you ask me.
That's my theory.
I think its a safe bet to say Dooku had a hand in erasing the file but did he physically do it? My money is still on Jocasta-Nu. Obi-Wan said that only a Jedi could have erased those files. Jocasta was the curator. She has the power and the motive (Secret feelings for Dooku). I just think that she protested too much when Obi-Wan suggested the archives were incomplete.
I like that theory ArthasKnight. It makes sense. So then did dooku order the clones under sifo-dyas' name cause he knew he was dead and then the republic couldn't find out who REALLY ordered the clones. They would just end up being like, okay, the clones are there, lets use them to fight at least if there waiting for us. Palps probably ordered dooku to do all this i suppose, under his master plan.
Originally posted by jedijunky1138
I think its a safe bet to say Dooku had a hand in erasing the file but did he physically do it? My money is still on Jocasta-Nu. Obi-Wan said that only a Jedi could have erased those files. Jocasta was the curator. She has the power and the motive (Secret feelings for Dooku). I just think that she protested too much when Obi-Wan suggested the archives were incomplete.
This post subject is this sites equivalent of the BLAIR WITCH WOODS
You always end up back where you started
so to keep the ball rolling
IT WASNT JOCASTA NU.....JOCASTA NUs reaction is that of most females when you try to tell them they are mistaken......they get all huffy!
Originally posted by cylob49AND JUST HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS AS FACT? Did you even read the AOTC novel? Probably not so I will tell you what I'm basing my assumptions on.
This post subject is this sites equivalent of the BLAIR WITCH WOODS
You always end up back where you started
so to keep the ball rolling
IT WASNT JOCASTA NU.....JOCASTA NUs reaction is that of most females when you try to tell them they are mistaken......they get all huffy!
2) Dooku is no longer a Jedi he would have been noticed fooling around with the archives.
Now if Dooku were to find out about Jokasta's feelings he could use them to influence her into erasing the archives. I think that the reason the scene with Obi and Jocasta talking about the statue was deleated was because it would have given this away.
Originally posted by jedijunky1138
AND JUST HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS AS FACT? Did you even read the AOTC novel? Probably not so I will tell you what I'm basing my assumptions on.
1) IN THE NOVEL (which was approved by GL) I read that Jokasta had secret feelings for Dooku. There are photos that I found on Google of Obi-Wan and Jokasta speaking about a statue of Dooku. In the book this is the scene where we find out about here feelings.2) Dooku is no longer a Jedi he would have been noticed fooling around with the archives.
Now if Dooku were to find out about Jokasta's feelings he could use them to influence her into erasing the archives. I think that the reason the scene with Obi and Jocasta talking about the statue was deleated was because it would have given this away.
That's great and all but you're using EU as fact and we all know that that doesn't fly.