The Official DragonBall Z thread

Started by Vvendeta216 pages

Toriyama said he is the stronges human by the way, and his character never stop training hard, but as the history goes, the humans and Piccolo are left far behind by the fast grow of power of the Saiyans

I have this in my computer: the Sho Ki ko hu or tri beam(the correct trranslation is cannon Ki, i guess you have to blame funimation for bad translations)

Doesn't the Daizenshu suposedly say that he is an alien? The same book that supposedly people get there power levels from on some websites. And I think it sucks that Tien who trains is still useless in a fight when Goten and Trunks were so powerful without ever really training before hand. I wonder if Tien ever surpasses 18 in power. Also wouldn't the androids technically be the strongest humans since they are human just with robotic parts.

I read Somewhere that Tien is the reincarnation of a God with 3 eyes, and other explanation is that due at intense training and meditation he developed a third eye, well, i don´t know which is the real but he is not an Alien, and as he did 2 big feats at the end of the manga, he stop a Beam from Gohan-Buu and before he and Chauzu where the only ones to survive the technique human extermination from Superbuu, i pretty much could say he at least reach freeza level, or close.

Is explained that if the Saiyans fathers are more powerful, the sons born more powerful, Goten and Trunks are conceive when vegeta and Goku are Supersaiyans. if they train like Gohan they could be more powerful

Well there was a big debate a while back that Tien was human or not and somebody said the Daizenshu says he's an alien and I believe wikipedia or maybe it was a Tien fansite also say he's a alien. Though I've never seen any of the Daizenshu. And Chioatzu also dodged the Super Buu extermination attack but passing Freeza in power doesn't mean he's close to being strong to the androids during the Buu saga. Though I don't think the androids can get any stronger.

Actually Trunks was conceived before Vegeta reached ssj since Trunks was a year old by the time Vegeta came to save everybody and went ssj.

There are many Rumours, but i think Krillin look more than a Alien than Tien Lol, Vegeta explain to Nappa that Gohan being able to damage Raditz means that the combination of humans and Saiyans create a powerful hybrid.

Poor Yamcha, he never could compete with Vegeta, he lose Bulma

Imaging a combination Saiyans and Kriptonians. no other race could stop them.

They'd probably be vulnerable to kryptonite, and magic probably still so they could be beat. Red Sun would probably only get rid of the Kryptonian strength and speed so they'd depower in that department but their blasts wouldn't and they'd still have the strength from training and speed from it though.

Also Yamcha's problem was he kept cheating on Bulma or he may have actually kept Bulma instead of Vegeta getting her.

Yamcha is timid in DB and a ladies man in DBZ

i found the part where the Z fighters humans battle mentally in kamis palace against ancient Saiyans, it was toriyama´s idea, but not in the manga

YouTube video

The humans get beat so badly in that fight it's not funny.

Originally posted by Vvendeta
Yamcha is timid in DB and a ladies man in DBZ

i found the part where the Z fighters humans battle mentally in kamis palace against ancient Saiyans, it was toriyama´s idea, but not in the manga

YouTube video

actually that was the hyperbolic time chamber. check it. im right. they changed the TC to the white area later in the series. that ep was filler i believe

Originally posted by Vvendeta
Don´t understimate Krillin, first, he cut rock like a hot knife in butter, he cut Nappa and Freeza, the attack in Cell happened only in the anime

From what I recall, he didn't cut Nappa. Nappa dodged the discs right after Vegeta warned him about them. As for Frieza, Krillen only cut off his tail (which apparently grew back when he went to his final form), so it hardly counts.
I didn't know the attack he made against Cell only happened in the anime though, so thanks for pointing it out.

Originally posted by Vvendeta
and was power up by the great elder of Namek.

Ah yes. Guru.

Likewise though, Tien (along with the others he was with) was receiving training from King Kai around the time that happened. 😎

Originally posted by Vvendeta
Yamcha is the weakest af all the 3, but the Sokidan is a cool technique.

If you're referring to the Spirit Ball, then I agree, though it wasn't as powerful as it should've been (IMO).

Surprisingly enough, Yamcha's Wolf Fang Fist actually looked pretty badass in some of the Budokai games (forgot which ones they were, but I have 'em on the PS2).

Originally posted by Vvendeta
In the Fillers Yamcha beat warriors that Fought with Goku SSJ1 in heaven, and Krillin fought Buu.

That was totally messed up (as far as Yamcha beating Olibu). Yamcha didn't train before the arrival of Buu or anything (as hinted by him saying "Me? Nah. I just embarrassed myself. I gave up fighting" in one episode when Chichi asked if he was going to enter the World Martial Arts tournament), and Olibu actually held his own against Pikkon (in the Other World Tournament). Seeing as how Pikkon knocked out Cell in 1 blow in HFIL/hell (who was off guard, I might add), Yamcha wouldn't last 2 minutes against Pikkon, but Olibu did, and then some.

I don't know what they were thinking when they made that episode, but Olibu should've been able to beat Yamcha.

Originally posted by chickenlover98
actually that was the hyperbolic time chamber. check it. im right. they changed the TC to the white area later in the series. that ep was filler i believe

Um, the room they were in was called something different in that episode, so I don't think it was the Hyperbolic Time Chamber. Could be wrong though.

You know something I just realized?

Even though Vegeta was ranting and raving about how Frieza had destroyed the saiyans, he never thought to use the Dragonballs to bring them back. What an *******.

Probably because they can't be brought back. Aren't they unable to be brought back after a certain time by the Earth Dragon and I highly doubt the Nameks are going to tell Porunga to do it since Vegeta doesn't speak Namekian.

vegeta could have wished them back. i dont remember a time limit on the earth dragon the only thing i remember is the number of reserrections being the only limitation

Originally posted by Kento
Probably because they can't be brought back. Aren't they unable to be brought back after a certain time by the Earth Dragon and I highly doubt the Nameks are going to tell Porunga to do it since Vegeta doesn't speak Namekian.

Well for one Porunga can only bring back one person can it not? Or can the new Porunga bring back multiple people?

In any case, they didn't die THAT long ago. And I don't remember any sort of time limit.

Originally posted by King Kandy
You know something I just realized?

Even though Vegeta was ranting and raving about how Frieza had destroyed the saiyans, he never thought to use the Dragonballs to bring them back. What an *******.


I realized that as well (at one point in time), but eh, I think it was mentioned in one of the episodes (when Kami was speaking telepathically to Guru) that the dragon's wishing power (as far as using it to bring people back to life) was limited to those who died within a year's time, at most. Frieza destroyed planet Vegeta years before his defeat on Namek, so it wouldn't have worked, and knowing Vegeta (the prince), his desire for immortality would overcome him if he ever got the opportunity to wish his people back to life. 😂

id wish for immortality too. then id wish to become a saiyan. 😎

Before i going to sleep, i think Krillin is a bad one to be understimated against Tien, and is stated in the manga that The Dragon only can revive people who die in one year period

If Nappa don´t listen to Vegeta, bye bye head


Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
I realized that as well (at one point in time), but eh, I think it was mentioned in one of the episodes (when Kami was speaking telepathically to Guru) that the dragon's wishing power (as far as using it to bring people back to life) was limited to those who died within a year's time, at most. Frieza destroyed planet Vegeta years before his defeat on Namek, so it wouldn't have worked, and knowing Vegeta (the prince), his desire for immortality would overcome him if he ever got the opportunity to wish his people back to life. 😂

That's another thing... Vegeta just forgot about wanting to be immortal, didn't he?

Originally posted by Vvendeta
and is stated in the manga that The Dragon only can revive people who die in one year period

And you're sure that also applies to Dende's dragon?