The Official DragonBall Z thread

Originally posted by Kento
Except Gokou by then would have easily passed Gohan's power at ssj2 in his normal form plus strength is never a big factor of who can beat who in DBZ. And there's also a reason GT is considered non-canon. It contradicts to much stuff. Also how the heck did Goten and Trunks sense 19 during the Super 17 arc when all the old villains returned..And why did Goten have such a hard time again that guy that Vegeta beat with ease in Babidi's ship?

Things like GoKu stoping to fuse saying that they are not powerfull enough, when just for the sake to see adult Gotenks could have be cool.

Gohan being so weak.

everybody look weak.

Yeah they scrub DB.

Originally posted by Kento
You can't forget Dende. If he hadn't of actually wished Gokou to have his energy back Buu would have survived the Spirit Bomb and then probably been mad enough to actually get serious. As for Kid Buu being the strongest I think Shonen Jump pretty much confirmed that in an interview with Toriyama.

Oh yea I was reading the manga when Gokou fights Yakon and did he really go ssj2 in the anime during that fight? I didn't think he did but it's been so long and he goes ssj2 in the manga.

I read the manga i have and when Kid Buu is transforming from superbuu form, Goku and Vegeta feel and said that his Ki was growing bigger, Goku even say : " Is this guy in steroids?" then when they see him child alike they understimated him. You could be right about kid Buu being the strongest.

But Goku didn´t power up to his maximum from the beginning of the fight, Vegeta notice it, and after the half of the fight, he couldn´t, his body alive didn´t work the same as dead. Vegeta notice that Goku maximum SSJ3 power will desintegrate kid Buu for good. Goku already desintegrate the Djinn many times, but not in his total, pieces remaining and buu come back complete again.

Goku when transform into SSJ 2 show in the manga like electricity around him, but against Yakon he just power up, but Vegeta feel that goku have more insight him so vegeta asume that Goku have pass the SSJ 1 wall.

What about a debate that who is the strongest Human Z fighter, or the most powerfull, who has better techniques?

first Tien Shin Han

Krillin

Yamcha

Originally posted by Vvendeta
What about a debate that who is the strongest Human Z fighter, or the most powerfull

Originally posted by Vvendeta
Things like GoKu stoping to fuse saying that they are not powerfull enough, when just for the sake to see adult Gotenks could have be cool.

Gohan being so weak.

everybody look weak.

Yeah they scrub DB.

Originally posted by Vvendeta
I read the manga i have and when Kid Buu is transforming from superbuu form, Goku and Vegeta feel and said that his Ki was growing bigger, Goku even say : " Is this guy in steroids?" then when they see him child alike they understimated him. You could be right about kid Buu being the strongest.

But Goku didn´t power up to his maximum from the beginning of the fight, Vegeta notice it, and after the half of the fight, he couldn´t, his body alive didn´t work the same as dead. Vegeta notice that Goku maximum SSJ3 power will desintegrate kid Buu for good. Goku already desintegrate the Djinn many times, but not in his total, pieces remaining and buu come back complete again.

Originally posted by Vvendeta
Goku when transform into SSJ 2 show in the manga like electricity around him, but against Yakon he just power up, but Vegeta feel that goku have more insight him so vegeta asume that Goku have pass the SSJ 1 wall.

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As for who has the best techniques..I don't see anybody else having moves stole from them except Tien. Though I don't like Yamcha I do think the Spirit Ball is awesome since it's easy to control but Tien's Tribeam is by far my favorite move in the whole show.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Easily Tien. He was able to hold back Cell (in his form after absorbing Android 17) for quite awhile. Never saw Krillen or Yamcha do something on that level. 😬
Heck. Krillen's Distructo Disk bounced off of Cell's neck when he tried using it on him. xd

Don´t understimate Krillin, first, he cut rock like a hot knife in butter, he cut Nappa and Freeza, the attack in Cell happened only in the anime, and Remember he kill all the saibamens except one and was power up by the great elder of Namek.

but yes in power Tien Attack Sho ki ko hu even stop second form cell.

Yamcha is the weakest af all the 3, but the Sokidan is a cool technique.

Originally posted by Kento
Yea Gotenks would have been awesome. Gohan I can understand being weak again since he isn't one that trains and he was even said to have been weaker than when he fought Cell and could barley keep up with Dabura who Gokou said was as strong as Cell. I didn't like the whole art of GT either. Though I wonder if the Seven Evil Dragons would have happened if Akira had continued the manga because the Old Kaioshin kept complaining that they dragonballs aren't to be used like they have been and were being used to save everybody. Though if nearly everybody was stronger than Shenron how did Omega Shenron get so powerful? It doesn't matter what Gokou could do at his max I don't think he could have held the power long enough to do it anyway. Not to mention Buu wasn't serious at all when he was fighting. Plus speculation on what they could do after they've already underestimated Kid Buu two other times really isn't reliable to me. It's easy to tell he goes ssj2 in this picture. His hair gets a lot longer and stands on end.

As for who has the best techniques..I don't see anybody else having moves stole from them except Tien. Though I don't like Yamcha I do think the Spirit Ball is awesome since it's easy to control but Tien's Tribeam is by far my favorite move in the whole show.

What is your opinion if Kid Buu apear after 10 years when Goku fight Ubb, speculation or not, Do you think Goku will have the same problem with Kid Buu? or Goku will beat him easy then?

about SSj2 i think you are right.

Tien is awesome, in the movie Bojack he fough equal with normal Trunks.

In the Fillers Yamcha beat warriors that Fought with Goku SSJ1 in heaven, and Krillin fought Buu.

Just for you to know, Sokidan means KI bullet, is allways confuse with spirit bomb

Originally posted by Vvendeta
What is your opinion if Kid Buu apear after 10 years when Goku fight Ubb, speculation or not, Do you think Goku will have the same problem with Kid Buu? or Goku will beat him easy then?

about SSj2 i think you are right.

Tien is awesome, in the movie Bojack he fough equal with normal Trunks.

In the Fillers Yamcha beat warriors that Fought with Goku SSJ1 in heaven, and Krillin fought Buu.

Just for you to know, Sokidan means KI bullet, is allways confuse with spirit bomb

Yea that was my favorite part of movie 9. He was able to go toe to toe with normal Trunks. Though Trunks should have been knocked into the water when he was hit by the Tribeam. Also in filler episode Tien took on both Burta and Jeice at only half his power because he did split form which evens his power while Yamcha had trouble taking care of Recoome at full power. Though Tien does block a beam from Gotenks Buu that could have killed Gohan with his Tribeam also. So he's got some strong attacks for being outclassed by all the aliens.

And in the American version it's called Spirit Ball that's why I said that. Same way I say Tribeam instead of Kikyoho and Spirit Bomb instead of Genki Dama.

I think if Krillin hit his kienzan could cause a great damage, in the case of Tien, Krillin could kill him.

But Tien is way faster since DB

Krillin kienzan

If Krillen is able to hit anybody without the ability to regen he would probably kill anybody. Be it Gokou or Vegeta also. To bad he's to weak. Gokou could probably kill somebody with since he would have the speed to do so however.

Goku Kienzan, asuming His ki is Bigger than Krillin, is unstopable, he cut The Gohan-Buu in his normal form.

Here the Video of Trunks, coolest part in the movie.

YouTube video

Well Buu isn't know for his ability to soak up damage since he is hurt by weaker blasts. So Gokou cutting through Gotenks Buu wasn't that impressive.

The tribeam or kikohu is more powerful that the video show, in a filler against Gohan-Buu Tien Desintegrate montains around.

Yea but Goku can Do Kienzan as same or more powerful than Krillin, so did Vegeta when cut Gohan Tail, i think Goku can copy pretty much almost everything done with Ki.

Yea just imagine if Gokou learned Tribeam. Wouldn't want him to but just imagine if he knew that move how strong of an attack he'd have since he's stronger than Tien and Tien can stall people that outclass him like Second Form Cell and block attacks from people who outclass him like Gotenks Buu.

Woao never tought of that, Master Roshi knew the movement, but because use the energy life of the user to the point to kill himself, he never teach that to Goku or Krillin, he was mad at Suru Senin (Tien Master) for teaching that technique, Tien also was so strong that resist the Mafuba, or demon seal, this attack was use for the Master of Roshi to trap the firts Piccolo Daimao, Roshi die doing this in DB.

Yea Tien is just awesome. To bad he just sort of disappears after he becomes unable to fight. I wonder why he stayed away from the rest of the humans after Cell died.