The Official DragonBall Z thread

Started by buutenks216 pages

And if you still say that base Goku can't lift 40 tons then I will say that Superman cannot lift more thna 80 tons so it means that ssj Goku can crush him and almost everytime when Hulk fight only walls are being destroyed and the same goes for Thor.

And the calculations I made and how much they can lift are all from the manga.Freeza saga Goku was easily moving his hands in 100 G at invisible speeds and his was moving his body,so it means that he can easily lift 100 tons.

And didn't you saw that I didn't said that base Goku in the Buu saga is 100 times stronger than Freeza saga Goku so it means that he can lift 100,000 tons?I didn't because I have a hard time believing that base Goku in the Buu saga can lift more than 200 tons,I will say that he can lift 200 tons but more?I doubt that.

So I hope you agree.

But if you don't then I will just leave it how it is,I will not try to change your opinion.

Originally posted by buutenks
And if you still say that base Goku can't lift 40 tons then I will say that Superman cannot lift more thna 80 tons so it means that ssj Goku can crush him and almost everytime when Hulk fight only walls are being destroyed and the same goes for Thor.

And the calculations I made and how much they can lift are all from the manga.Freeza saga Goku was easily moving his hands in 100 G at invisible speeds and his was moving his body,so it means that he can easily lift 100 tons.

And didn't you saw that I didn't said that base Goku in the Buu saga is 100 times stronger than Freeza saga Goku so it means that he can lift 100,000 tons?I didn't because I have a hard time believing that base Goku in the Buu saga can lift more than 200 tons,I will say that he can lift 200 tons but more?I doubt that.

So I hope you agree.

But if you don't then I will just leave it how it is,I will not try to change your opinion.

Are you a ****ing retard?

Nothing you said in your previous 2 posts make any sense what so ever.
You can't say they can lift hundreds of tons, because they never actually mention weight of "boulders" and etc.

There is no documented canon info on any site coming from toriyame about this. Please site your info, don't just make up stuff using feats.

You can't say "Frieza is stronger than goku because he destroyed a planet and goku didn't"

It just doesn't work.

Originally posted by calvs
Are you a ****ing retard?

Nothing you said in your previous 2 posts make any sense what so ever.
You can't say they can lift hundreds of tons, because they never actually mention weight of "boulders" and etc.

There is no documented canon info on any site coming from toriyame about this. Please site your info, don't just make up stuff using feats.

You can't say "Frieza is stronger than goku because he destroyed a planet and goku didn't"

It just doesn't work.

What in the world are you talking about?I said that base Goku can lift 200 tons and when Goku goes ssj he is 10 times stronger so it means that he can lift 2,000 tons.

And what was with the Freeza is stronger than Goku because he destroyed the planet?Did I said something like that?No,so don't call me names or I'll report you.

And what's with the weight of boulders?The boulder that Goku lifted was 2 meter wide and he was moving in the Freeza saga easily in 100 G,that means that he can move at invisible speeds while weighing 8 tons.And where did I got the 8 tons?Well I say that Goku weighs around 80 kg and 100x80=8000 kg.

And everything is about feats.And what site?what in the world are you talking about?

Even if you say thta Goku can only lift 50 tons in the Buu saga(he easily lifted a 10 ton boulder) he could still lift as a ssj2 around 2,500 tons or maybe 5,000 tons if it's 10 times like ssj1.

And I don't know what was that guy talking about.

You just need to use logic.
Just think if Goku in the Freza saga was moving like nothing in 100 G then I think he can lift 100 tons in the Buu saga in his base form.

100 G means that he was weighing 7-8 tons depending on how much Goku weighs.

We can atleast say that ssj1 Goku in the Buu saga could lift 700 tons and ssj2 4,500 tons and ssj3 13,000 tons.

I mean just think if Goku in base form can lift a 2 meter wide boulder(which would weigh around 10 tons) without any problems,I say that he could lift 10 times or 7 times that much weight in his base form.

Guys, please avoid name calling. It only increases hostility among members. Play nice..

can we get off this im sooo confused lol

goku > superman hulk and anybody else

dont know if thats what you guys were talking about because my head is spinning in circles right now no more math please!

lol im back! what have we been talkin about in here

Originally posted by Lord Evolution
can we get off this im sooo confused lol

goku > superman hulk and anybody else

dont know if thats what you guys were talking about because my head is spinning in circles right now no more math please!


I'm not gonna even try to reason with that fanboy. He's still convinced he can apply Real world measurements to fuctional alien characters.

And Superman could definatley beat Goku and the same goes for Thor.

Originally posted by calvs
I'm not gonna even try to reason with that fanboy. He's still convinced he can apply Real world measurements to fuctional alien characters.

And Superman could definatley beat Goku and the same goes for Thor.

What in the world are you talking about?Your saying that just because Goku never lifted 100 we can't say he can do that?Are you nuts?Use logic man,if Freeza saga Goku can move in 100 G like nothing then I think in the buu saga he could lift 100 tons in his base.

Now when Goku goes ssj he becomes 10 times stronger so it means that he can lift 1,000 tons.
And it was stated in the manga by Bulma's dad that if you weigh 60 kg in 100 G you would weigh 6,000 kg,that 6 tons.

And Post-crisis Superman>>>>>GOku and Thor >>>>>Goku if you didn't knew.

And you are wrong and non of what you said proves anything,you can't accept that Goku lifts that much so you bring worthless points that don't prove anything.

But still are you dumb or something?Because even a idiot would know that if a guy when he's way weaker could move like nothing in 100 G then when he's way stronger he could definitly lift 100 tons.You just need to use your head.

And what's with the real wrold stuff?Did I say something like that?I just used some calculations and was stated in the manga.And I'll reapeat it to you because I see that you can't understand.

IF A GUY WHEN HE'S WAY WEAKER CAN MOVE WHILE WEIGHING 7 TONS AT INVISIBLE SPEEDS THEN i THINK THAT WHEN HE'S WAY STRONGER HE CAN LIFT 100 TONS.And the 100 G is from the manga if you didn't knew I didn't made it up.

So next time dbz hater.

Edit:and like I said the 40 ton thing was a mistake,Goku could easily move while weighing 7 tons and he had no trouble after a bit of trainning in 10 G,but in the Buu saga when he got stronger he said that 10 tons is impossible so that clearly is a mistake because I doubt Goku trains to become weaker and hell in the Buu saga Goku lifted like nothing a 2 meter wide rock(a 2 meter wide rock weighs around 10 tons) yet he says that 10 tons is impossible,so you see that was a mistake made by Toriyama.

Like I said using logic ssj Goku could lift around 800 tons
ssj2:4,000 tons,how did i got 4,000?simple 5x800=4,000
ssj3:12,000,how did I got 12,000?Simple 3x4,000=12,000.

But that's still weigh lower than Superman,but I wasn't trying to prove thta Goku can beat Superman nor that GOku cn hang wiht the Hulk in a slugfest,I was juts trying to prove that at ssj1 he can atleast lift a couple of hundred tons.

I can understand that's it's hard for you guys to accept this seeing how they never lifted something big that weighs 700 tons but when one goes ssj he becomes 10 times stronger,so you just multiply the 10 by how much could base lift and you could 700 tons,600 tons or 500 tons.It's simple and you just use calculations not real world science or stuff like that.

"And Post-crisis Superman>>>>>GOku and Thor >>>>>Goku if you didn't knew"
Goku would kick post-crisis supes, but pre-crisis would kick his ass.

And I like DBZ FYI, I just keep it a show, not a religion.

Originally posted by calvs
"And Post-crisis Superman>>>>>GOku and Thor >>>>>Goku if you didn't knew"
Goku would kick post-crisis supes, but pre-crisis would kick his ass.

And I like DBZ FYI, I just keep it a show, not a religion.

Wow your telling me that I'm a dbz fanboy?I'm not man.

Post-crisis Superman is stronger thna ssj3 Goku,ssj3 Goku can only lift around 13,000 tons,that nowhere near Superman in strength.But ssj2 Goku was destroying mountains with the shockwave of his punches,so I say thaqt he could hurt Sups badly,now ssj3 is even stronger.So I was a bit off when I said thta post-crisis Superman>>>>Goku,maye it's like this post-crisis Superman>=ssj3 Goku in battle.

The Hulk?Doesn't stand a chance against saiyan saga Goku let alone ssj.This is because Hulk is not fast enough to hit Goku,in strneght he's stronger(if he's really mad) and he can punch hard(if he's really really mad).

I don't want you to get me wrong,I'm not a fanboy.I just wanted to show how much they could probably lift.But if you don't think that ssj1 can lift around 700 tons and ssj2 4,000 tons and ssj3 13,000 tons I will not try to change your opinion,we all have differnet opinions and different views.

So just because my opinion is different then yours it doesn't mean that you can call me names and all that stuff.

But I hope you agree that they can lift that much because when Goku goes ssj he is 10 times stronger and 70x10 is 400 tons.It's all simple.

Double post.

I meant to say 1,000 tons not 700 tons because Goku could lift 100 tons in the buu saga because he lifted like it wasn't even there a 10-12 ton rock and he was moving in 100 G like nothing.So I say that he could lift 100 tons in the Buu saga that 40 ton thing was a mistake or maybe there was 10 times earths gravity,I mean it was in the afterlife and there it was a good place to train.

And in the anime ssj2 Goku ripped a mountain in half with his hands.This was in his fight with kid buu and he was destroying mountains wiht the shockwave of his punches in the anime and manga.So i say he could lift at least 5,000 tons if he did all this.

Now if you agree that's not my problem.I used feats and nothing more and you have nothing to disprove what I said.

great! math again ❌

Fanboy????

someone explain to me what the hell that means because people seem to keep saying that they are not, like its something bad.

I thought it just meant you are a fan of the series or something....because i am and im a fan of superman.

is this going to turn into a superman vs dbz thread because i have been reading up on those and they never turn out well...never

And in the anime ssj2 Goku ripped a mountain in half with his hands.

Filler, and it wasn't a mountain.

Originally posted by Lord Evolution
great! math again ❌

Fanboy????

someone explain to me what the hell that means because people seem to keep saying that they are not, like its something bad.

I thought it just meant you are a fan of the series or something....because i am and im a fan of superman.

is this going to turn into a superman vs dbz thread because i have been reading up on those and they never turn out well...never

A fanboy's someone who goes against logic and routes for his favorite character...no matter what.

And just drop it...Superman and Goku are two different chracters, in two different media types...There's no point in discussing it.

Originally posted by Dues Ex
DBZ is really, really poor to use in debates. The Japanese mentality about anything is "It is, therefore it is." As oposed to the Western mentality "It is, wtf?"

Werd.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Filler, and it wasn't a mountain.

That's why I said "in the anime" because it's filler.

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
A fanboy's someone who goes against logic and routes for his favorite character...no matter what.

And just drop it...Superman and Goku are two different chracters, in two different media types...There's no point in discussing it.

Hey I didn't started with the Superman thing,some guy here said that he thinks that we were talking about Superman vs Goku,so he said who would win.

But I never was comparing Superman with Goku,I just said how much they could lift.

I never really talk about Superman vs Goku anymore,I'm bored of that.

But against Post-crisis Superman the fight would be even but Superman could outlast him so he will probably win.

And I would like for ssj3 Goku to win,but if it's dead Goku then he can last more,so who knows?

Originally posted by Lord Evolution
great! math again ❌

Fanboy????

someone explain to me what the hell that means because people seem to keep saying that they are not, like its something bad.

I thought it just meant you are a fan of the series or something....because i am and im a fan of superman.

is this going to turn into a superman vs dbz thread because i have been reading up on those and they never turn out well...never

A fanboy is someone who can't admit that their favorit character loses.

Originally posted by buutenks
A fanboy is someone who can't admit that their favorit character loses.
Dude. 3 posts in 3 minutes?

Use the God Damn Edit button nuubtenks.