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I found this truly interesting, someone brought it up on another board im a part of an i was truly amazed its something i never would have thought about.

Someone seems to think Broly would beat Goku ss3!

At first I thought this looney bin to be outta prozac, but then he gave compelling evidence that backed his theory.

And I just recently got done watching Broly: Second Coming and I thought to myself WOW WOW!!

he once again was outnumbered 4 to 1 and he once again pwned. The first time it was Vegeta, Goku, Piccolo and Gohan and they couldnt touch him. Now I dont particularly agree with how he went out in this movie because they showed that he had all this power and gets taken out by a stomach punch...

BUT we find out that it didnt kill him but only made him stronger. As a matter of fact its stated that Broly only gets more stronger as the battle goes on and he doesnt get fatigue and he grows stronger as he encounters near death experiences.

So on Earth he once again finds himself outnumbered. Easily dismantling Gohan, Goten, and Trunks, Broly finds himself in a rage, he wants kakarot. And IMO if Goku did come and battle him one on one like he should have done instead of doing the family kamehameha then Broly would have crushed him.

One thing that bothers me is, how in the hell did they manage to blow him through space??

Even after Goku, Gohan, Goten put all their effort into it they were still getting puched back. Which I find amazing since Gohan was SS2 Goku was SS2 and goten was SS and Broly was just Broly.

So was it trunks??? or just mis concentration??? what the hell caused Broly to go flying through space when he was clearly controlling it after goku, gohan, goten put all thier efforts into it???

My point is that Broly at his full potential could proably go toe to toe against goku SS3 and could possibly win.

maybe...but anyway lets quit arguing... superman vs goku could go on for ****in ever...u cant really compare them, they r from 2 different things. my personal opinion is on goku, but it really dont matter cuz there is no fact on who would win. so since we r in dbz thread who has seen wrath of the dragon? ive seen it in japanese but not in english..im trying to find the damn thing and i dont see it in any stores

i had to cacth up on these movies, i had originally planned to go out and buy them but someone told me they were on youtube and surely enough they were

Originally posted by Lord Evolution
I found this truly interesting, someone brought it up on another board im a part of an i was truly amazed its something i never would have thought about.

Someone seems to think Broly would beat Goku ss3!

At first I thought this looney bin to be outta prozac, but then he gave compelling evidence that backed his theory.

And I just recently got done watching Broly: Second Coming and I thought to myself WOW WOW!!

he once again was outnumbered 4 to 1 and he once again pwned. The first time it was Vegeta, Goku, Piccolo and Gohan and they couldnt touch him. Now I dont particularly agree with how he went out in this movie because they showed that he had all this power and gets taken out by a stomach punch...

BUT we find out that it didnt kill him but only made him stronger. As a matter of fact its stated that Broly only gets more stronger as the battle goes on and he doesnt get fatigue and he grows stronger as he encounters near death experiences.

So on Earth he once again finds himself outnumbered. Easily dismantling Gohan, Goten, and Trunks, Broly finds himself in a rage, he wants kakarot. And IMO if Goku did come and battle him one on one like he should have done instead of doing the family kamehameha then Broly would have crushed him.

One thing that bothers me is, how in the hell did they manage to blow him through space??

Even after Goku, Gohan, Goten put all their effort into it they were still getting puched back. Which I find amazing since Gohan was SS2 Goku was SS2 and goten was SS and Broly was just Broly.

So was it trunks??? or just mis concentration??? what the hell caused Broly to go flying through space when he was clearly controlling it after goku, gohan, goten put all thier efforts into it???

My point is that Broly at his full potential could proably go toe to toe against goku SS3 and could possibly win.

Owning a unmastered ssj a weak ssj Vegeta a weak ssj Trunks and apiccolo that was strong as a ssj isn't very impressive.Perfect Cell took a kick to the neck from Ussj Vegeta nad he didn't even feel a thing nor did he move.ssj2 Gohan killed a Cell Jr. with one hit,now this Cell Jr. is stronger than a ssj vegeta that went the second time into the ROST.And they were 7 of thewm yet they still couldn't survive 3 seconds against ssj2 Gohan.

So owning some weak ssj isn't impressive.

And this was fpssj Goku because he was in his normal form and so was Gohan,fpssj Goku was in ssj form when he was almost killed and when he barely had any ki left.This shows that the ssj Goku that fought Brolly was not fpssj Goku.

For now this is all I can say.

You're underestimating ssj though. Just cause there are higher forms doesn't mean they get better with every form. Gokue still went SSJ in wrath of th Dragon first and used SSJ3 as a last resort.

Is there limits to using SSJ3? Does it use up more energy to use or can you stay in SSJ & SSJ£ form for the same amount of time or when you're beat badly that you lose it?

Originally posted by Blue Dragon
Is there limits to using SSJ3? Does it use up more energy to use or can you stay in SSJ & SSJ£ form for the same amount of time or when you're beat badly that you lose it?

You start to lose power quicker then in any other form...It's too taxing on the body.

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
You start to lose power quicker then in any other form...It's too taxing on the body.

yep yep

Originally posted by calvs
You're underestimating ssj though. Just cause there are higher forms doesn't mean they get better with every form. Gokue still went SSJ in wrath of th Dragon first and used SSJ3 as a last resort.

Um that's a movie which is non-canon,a ssj that fought #17 was defeated with one punch,but when Vegeta went Ussj he was beating the crap out of Imperfect Cell stage 2 who even #16 couldn't hurt.#18 broke ssj Vegeta's arm wiht one hit and almost killed him with easy,Ussj Vegeta coudn't even hurt Perfect Cell.

ssj2 is so strong that it can kill a fpssj with one or two punches and a fpssj cannot hurt a ssj2 with punches.So defeating some weak ssjs isn't very impressive.

Originally posted by buutenks
Um that's a movie which is non-canon,a ssj that fought #17 was defeated with one punch,but when Vegeta went Ussj he was beating the crap out of Imperfect Cell stage 2 who even #16 couldn't hurt.#18 broke ssj Vegeta's arm wiht one hit and almost killed him with easy,Ussj Vegeta coudn't even hurt Perfect Cell.

ssj2 is so strong that it can kill a fpssj with one or two punches and a fpssj cannot hurt a ssj2 with punches.So defeating some weak ssjs isn't very impressive.

Originally posted by calvs
You're retarded. To make the movies, the studio must let Akira review thr script. And Goku still goes SSJ in the Anime when He has the ability to go SS3.

It still doesn't matter and defeating some weak ssjs who aren't even stronger then #17 isn't a impressive feat.

And next time show proof to back up your claims.

And stop calling me retarded because if you don't I'l report you again,got that?

Originally posted by buutenks
It still doesn't matter and defeating some weak ssjs who aren't even stronger then #17 isn't a impressive feat.

And next time show proof to back up your claims.

And stop calling me retarded because if you don't I'l report you again,got that?

Hahaha. They aren't going to care. Honestly.

RETARD.

Uhhh... Do you think Super Saiyan levels are constant set of power? It Multiplies the strength one has. Not gives it s et power level. It is also the easiest to control and it takes less strain on the body. This is why SSJ Goku > SSJ Vegeta.

Maybe I should report you for being a noob and not adhereing to logic.

Originally posted by calvs
Hahaha. They aren't going to care. Honestly.

RETARD.

Uhhh... Do you think Super Saiyan levels are constant set of power? It Multiplies the strength one has. Not gives it s et power level. It is also the easiest to control and it takes less strain on the body. This is why SSJ Goku > SSJ Vegeta.

Maybe I should report you for being a noob and not adhereing to logic.

Dude what part of "Borlly defeated some weak ssjs" don't you get?Those ssjs can't even hang with #17,let alone ssj3 Goku.

But think what you want,I'm done arguing wiht you.

Originally posted by buutenks
Dude what part of "Borlly defeated some weak ssjs" don't you get?Those ssjs can't even hang with #17,let alone ssj3 Goku.

But think what you want,I'm done arguing wiht you.

in what movie???

Broly owned all of em pretty damn hard in 8 and 10, and I think Gohan and Goku were ssj2 in #10 and he still owned them.

Originally posted by buutenks
Dude what part of "Borlly defeated some weak ssjs" don't you get?Those ssjs can't even hang with #17,let alone ssj3 Goku.

But think what you want,I'm done arguing wiht you.

And pretty funny coming from:

Um that's a movie which is non-canon

Learn how to debate of GTFO.

anyone mind making sense of the whole android saga time travel thing? There were some things that were said by Trunks that contradicted what actually happened.

:/ im not to keen on time travel nor do I understand it when they make it this confusing.

Originally posted by Lord Evolution
anyone mind making sense of the whole android saga time travel thing? There were some things that were said by Trunks that contradicted what actually happened.

:/ im not to keen on time travel nor do I understand it when they make it this confusing.

Hope this helps...

1- The Universe we watched, i.e: Trunks came back and warned them, Goku didn't die of a heart attack, Cell came back, Gohan defeated him, etc.

2- Trunks' time line, i.e: Goku dies of a heart attack, the Androids attack and kill all the z warriors bar Gohan, Gohan trains Trunks, Gohan dies, Trunks goes back in time and warns the warriors, returns to his time and defeats the Androids and KILLS Cell.

3- Cell's time line, i.e: Cell kills a weaker Trunks (Because in this time line Trunks didn't have such a massive powerup due to Cell not traveling back in time and forcing him to train) and travels back in time to time line 1, and dies by Gohan's hands.

There's also another time line where time line 1 was the same up until Cell appeared, where as in this one he didn't appear, so after Piccolo defeated the androids, everyone lived in peace...Until Buu would arrive and kill all of them because they're massively weaker being that they didn't have Cell to push them to become stronger.

see thats what im not getting, why does cell and trunks travel both travel to timeline 1 and OMFG this is confusing...they destroy dr. geros lab that had cell in it to further destroy any future time lines from having to deal with him or was it so he doesnt end up traveling back to absorb the androids and become perfect and 😘 😕 😖

so they destroyed it so cell in the future 😖 wouldnt be able to travel back in time to absorb the androids of whos time?

great saga but by far the most confusing

Originally posted by Lord Evolution
see thats what im not getting, why does cell and trunks travel both travel to timeline 1 and OMFG this is confusing...they destroy dr. geros lab that had cell in it to further destroy any future time lines from having to deal with him or was it so he doesnt end up traveling back to absorb the androids and become perfect and 😘 😕 😖

so they destroyed it so cell in the future 😖 wouldnt be able to travel back in time to absorb the androids of whos time?

great saga but by far the most confusing

It's really not that confusing....You just look into it too much.

There not time lines per say, they're more like dimensions.

They destroyed Dr. Geros lab to make sure that THAT Cell, the Cell from their time line, would never be able to absord 17 and 18...That isn't to say the Cell's from the other 4 dimensions (which the Cell we know was from dimension 3) couldn't absorb 17 and 18.