Homosexuality: Chosen or Genetic?

Originally posted by Turbo-Cajun
how do you pass the genetic trait of gayness on to offspring if that trait causes someone to be a homosexual? Homosexuals don't typically produce offspring, they might try but it just does not work.

No one has attempted to answer my question of how does this mysterious gay gene gets passed along. No scientists here who believe that it is genetically caused want to take this up?

Even if it were a genetically reccessive trait, it would eventually get weeded out. As the great Charles Darwin said it, survival of the fittest. Survival of those species in a population that are best equiped to reproduce pass their traits onto thier offspring, they pass it on to their offspring and so forth. Eventually these traits that are not carried by the heterosexuals members of society will die out. Since humans have been around for many many years and there are still homosexuals today proves that it is unlikely that such behavior is caused by genes alone. I might concede the possibility that genetics plays some minor role in how someones personality is developed and what kind sexual preference is then formed as a result, but it is far more likely to be environmental influences than either choice or genetics by themselves.

Explain how it is your genes that cause you to act a certain way and not the influences of your environment again.

I hope that wasn't addressed at me because, though it was a meager attempt, i was trying to agree with your overall view.

I was talking to syren... easy there.

I figured this much...

Originally posted by A4E
u make it sound like its a disease 😛

Saying it's a chemical imbalance, is saying your system is not normal, right? so, you would not be normal if in fact its a chemical imbalance. So, why on earth would you not want to be normal?

Normal people are boring. I have an abnormaly high IQ, well above 150, and Normal people go around with a mere 100ish. You all probably have above 120, and so are smart. Why would you want to be normal?

Taking drugs to change the chemical imbalance in the brain may make you not be gay, but their is no guarantee that if the imbalance was equalized that you would become attracted to the opposite sex. Gay people grow up being gay, they make gay friends, they adopt gay politics, they drive gay cars, and wear gay clothes. If you ask a gay person if they would want a pill that makes them not gay anymore, i think that you would get an overwhellmingly negative response to that kind of niave reasoning

Normal people are boring. I have an abnormaly high IQ, well above 150

Originally posted by Fiery Eyes
Saying it's a chemical imbalance, is saying your system is not normal, right? so, you would not be normal if in fact its a chemical imbalance. So, why on earth would you not want to be normal?

i'm quoting from somebody here, i don't know who said it but I agree with this statement. " There is no normal, only people who think they are."

There is no normal, only people who think they are."

Originally posted by Fiery Eyes
Saying it's a chemical imbalance, is saying your system is not normal, right? so, you would not be normal if in fact its a chemical imbalance. So, why on earth would you not want to be normal?

Again, because it's not harmful in any way. Why on earth would scientists waste their time looking for a "cure" for homosexuality when they can spend their time trying to fight cancer or aids?

well if you're chemically imbalance, why wouldn't you want to be balanced correctly? Anyways....it's not be proven that it is a chemical imbalance and i hardly thk it ever will be proven.

Originally posted by Turbo-Cajun
Taking drugs to change the chemical imbalance in the brain may make you not be gay, but their is no guarantee that if the imbalance was equalized that you would become attracted to the opposite sex. Gay people grow up being gay, they make gay friends, they adopt gay politics, they drive gay cars, and wear gay clothes. If you ask a gay person if they would want a pill that makes them not gay anymore, i think that you would get an overwhellmingly negative response to that kind of niave reasoning

Fierry Eyes... do you even read my posts? Even if it were a chemical imbalance its best not to change that imbalance. And whether or not it is or is not a chemical imbalance, i do not know... i doubt it is also, however of all the "explainations" so far it is probably the easiest to find sciecntific evidence proving that theory correct, or not correct.

Originally posted by Fiery Eyes
well if you're chemically imbalance, why wouldn't you want to be balanced correctly? Anyways....it's not be proven that it is a chemical imbalance and i hardly thk it ever will be proven.

One more time, because it is NOT harmful in any way, thus negating the need to find a "cure" when their are other, more important needs of chemical science.

i'm sure if it was a chemical imbalance wether or not its a need or not, someone would have tried to find one.

Yeah, I'm sure they woul dhave put a hold on trying to find a cure for cancer or Aids so they can change something trivial about a person that negatively affects no one.

Wouldn't make sense, the science community has more important things to do.

if there was honestly a chemical imbalance, SOMEONE would have taken the time to see if they could come up w/one.

How bout instead of argueing about whether or not we think it is an imbalance or not, why doesn't someone try find some evidence to support either arguement, or even to prove that there is such thing as an imbalance in chemical in brains of homosexuals?

I call not it, I'm eating....

lol

Why haven't i seen this thread earlier?
I read alot of stuff if homosexuality is a disease, or genetic imbalance or what ever. I don't think there is a point in this discussion. I'm a gay man and i have never really cared about this. Ofcourse some point in my life i asked myself why i was the way i am but to me (i found out) it's no different than drinking coffee or opening the garage door. I haven't read everything coz i get dizzy scroling for all the post but the one guy who does have a point is the TurboCajun Guy. You see every one has different views on this and they differ a lot. genetic, mistake by nature, cultural influence, child abuse, divorced parents. They can all be to somewhat influence but to me it's different. I think cajun allready said it that some people like to say that they were born that way. But i was born this way. If i look back i have had an average testosterone driven upbringing by my father. He still has some difficulties with it but that's an other subject. I can't say i was influnced in anyway. Not Showbizz or people around me. My paretns are still together and i was never abused in my life. I hope this was to somekind of help to understand my kind.