Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
I don't want you to apologize. His "choice" of being gay didn't give him AIDS, it was his choice not to have protected sex that gave him AIDS. Beyond that, I don't follow the logic of living in Canada and England...to avoid AIDS? Or homosexuals, or?
WOW your a moron you asked where i lived you freaking dumbass. have you never heard of condoms breaking???? or do you live in a little bubble where they work every time. if so it must be a nice one with padded walls
Originally posted by Darth Jello
i gotta agree that marrying someone and/or having kids wthout knowing what your sexuality is is incredibly irresponsible. If you aren't sure if your gay or not you shouldn't marry anyone until you are sure.
I know many gay men that were married and divorced after children were around. In fact, most of them didn't leave the marriage until after the children were adults. Fear of being gay is much stronger than most people think. Openly gay and vocal people like myself do tend to give people the misconception that all gay people are comfortable with it. But, in fact, I would say that most are not. So, it's less that they don't know their sexuality, and more that they think they can control it. If anything it is clear evidence that homosexuality isn't a chosen personality trait. They enter these marriages thinking that they can control their emotions. When that clearly isn't the case.
But, on the flip side of all that, I have long held the opinion that having children is one thing...but entering a marriage knowing you are gay is something else.
Originally posted by Darth_Midal
WOW your a moron you asked where i lived you freaking dumbass. have you never heard of condoms breaking???? or do you live in a little bubble where they work every time. if so it must be a nice one with padded walls
Had you worded your response in a fashion that made it clear that you were answering my question, it would have been more easily understood.
Sure, I know that condoms can break. But a broken condom still doesn't mean he got AIDS from being gay. An aunt of yours could have just as easily suffered the same consequences.
Originally posted by Darth Jello
well, thinking they can "control" being gay is the problem, and i always think it's unfair when someone with a problem makes the problem everyone elses. especially their wife and kids.
But, you answer your own question in your response. This culture has told them they have a problem, on top of telling them they somehow chose to be attracted to others of the same sex.
And it is unfair when people make everyone else suffer for their "problems", but I know many gay men who have raised well adjusted children. And, the more insightful of these children are the ones that actually confronted their fathers with the fact that they thought they were gay.
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
And, the more insightful of these children are the ones that actually confronted their fathers with the fact that they thought they were gay.
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You mean......the kids actually suspected their dads? How does that happen?; did they accidentally find his gay porno mag between the sofa cushions when looking for the remote?
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
😑You mean......the kids actually suspected their dads? How does that happen?; did they accidentally find his gay porno mag between the sofa cushions when looking for the remote?
They were adults when they figured it out. Parents divorced, their father never had dates with women, always hanging out with other men. The pieces tend to fall into place.
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
And it is unfair when people make everyone else suffer for their "problems", but I know many gay men who have raised well adjusted children. And, the more insightful of these children are the ones that actually confronted their fathers with the fact that they thought they were gay.
my daughter was 7 years old when she found out her father is gay ! until then she was fine no problems at all .within 3 months her personality has changed [even threatened her brother with a knife] if thats well adjusted i love to know what disturbed is !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! u obviously dont know what its like to have children 😠
Originally posted by debbiejo
I do though...........and like I said it happens in straight families also.
You mean in straight families children find out there father is a gay and they become violent?????
I know straight families have there problems but this has disturbed my daughter and my son.
They weren't upset when they found out I was having a child with Midal........
Originally posted by Em'J
my daughter was 7 years old when she found out her father is gay ! until then she was fine no problems at all .within 3 months her personality has changed [even threatened her brother with a knife] if thats well adjusted i love to know what disturbed is !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! u obviously dont know what its like to have children 😠
Answer these questions:
What parental influence lead her to the conclusion that daddy was bad for being gay?
How did she know what gay was?
What did the brother do to be threatened with a knife?
What other things are going on in their lives that could have effected this personality shift?
Tell us more about how hard it is for you and your boyfriend to be forced out of your home town, and how that has effected these children
No, I don't have children. Nor do I want any of my own right now. But, just because I don't have children doesn't mean I've never spent any time around them. I got to know my ex's neices and nephews. I have my own that I have spent a lot of time with.
Now, feel free to answer these questions, and I'll feel free to not think you two are the same person.