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First you say this about his logic:
Originally posted by sithsaber408
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Then you say this about it:
Originally posted by sithsaber408
Why not counter stupid logic with more stupid logic?
Who looks the most illogical? It certainly isn't you, right?
Originally posted by sithsaber408
The PEOPLE are what screwed that up, not the religion itself.
This is a matter of opinion, I suppose. However, the biggest injustice of religion is that it often removes the right of opinion. What could be more human than opinion? Clearly that's what it has accomplished for both yourself and Whob. And don't confuse morality with opinion. And don't confuse values with morality. Because all are subjective. Both of you want to vilify people who think differently than you. You want to deify an unborn child over the lives of those that are here right now. You happen to support a religion that has, in this country at least, placed itself squarely at odds with another religion that preaches practically the same doctrine and spent the last 5 or 6 hundred years killing and hating each other over it. Clearly, you've learned a lot about what your religions teach. Clearly your religion has provided suffecient insight to bring peace and understanding. People haven't failed religion, or god. Religion has failed the people. Christianity has rarely, at least on open mic night, benefitted the people it was meant to serve. It curtails progress at every step of the way. Religion isn't meant to serve god, as he has no need to be served. He "enlightened" people to religion in your christian perspective, as a means of serving the people. And in the face of that divinely created diversity, you have spit condemnation on it. If anyone is going to burn in the hell your own god created and described, it won't be the upstanding gay man or the scared woman who had an abortion. It'll be the judgmental, condemning christian that spreads hate and intolerence in the name of god. And if that isn't you Sithsabre, it certainly is Whob. Call me godless, you might be right under your definition of god. Call me unethical, you are certainly wrong. Call me unnatural, you are definately wrong. But never assume that you believe in your spirituality any more than I do mine. I don't deny your right to your beliefs and subsequent understanding of those beliefs. But you do so to me. And it's not just gay people I'm talking about. It's people who don't fall on bended knee to your limited world view. It's anyone who sees teh world differently than you do. You want to stand on the pulpit and preach about the American way and god, while denying it whole-heartedly at the same time. Ever stopped to consider that the devil is a wolf in lambs skin? The people you allow into your life at every step could possibly represent the truely insideous nature of the "devil" you fight so hard against? The "devil" won't come at you in any way with which you don't feel the most comfortable and secure. And that seems to be your religion.
You can hold on to your peace-sign-waving, holy-water-tossing rhetoric all you want. But keep it out of my life. As soon as you wake up to the fact that your religion wasn't created by god but rather men, you'll see things a lot differently. Spirituality was created by "god", but certainly not your religion. You call yourself a neo-con, but act like an old testament jew. Pull the plank from your own eye before you attempt to remove it from anothers.