Originally posted by Bardiel13
I don't see why anyone should bother with whobdamandog, anymore. Clearly, he's just trying to piss everyone off. The guy's contradicted himself left and right, compares homosexuality to absurd things, and on top of that, he takes the subject off topic. He should be banned from this thread.
And he overuses the word "bunghole" and has an unhealthy obsession with pegging.
Saying homosexuality is "chosen" is stupid because you're saying either
everyone is inherently bisexual and at some point choose which side they like better or everyone is inherently gay and most choose to like women instead because it's the "right" way. As far as genetics is concerned, i doubt homosexuality is passed on in DNA because plenty of people have gay parent who aren't gay and most gays have straight parents
Homosexuality may or may not be genetic. However, the arguments presented by the "I hate fags because they counter my religion" camp arn't very sound. No one will, in a human manner, choose to be "abnormal". Only those who wish to further the "strictly-christian, I-have-no-true-understandng-of-christianity" camp take issue with the religious aspect of it. Too bad that only the overly religious teach THAT the bibllical aspect of homosexuality to those who are belivers. It is only true of those priets who handled the ark of the covenant, biblically. For no other reason than "cleanliness". And don't you think that has changed since biblical times? Otherwise, just admit you're jews! Because the bible agreees, I don't think baby Jesus ever agreed with what came before him. Otherwise, Christianity would be totally different. To subscribe to the old testament is to admit to being a jew. If you aren't a jew, then you have serious issues with Christianity.
Originally posted by Capt_Fantasticyou found me out *picks up bag of gold and walks away*
Otherwise, just admit you're jews! Because the bible agreees, I don't think baby Jesus ever agreed with what came before him. Otherwise, Christianity would be totally different. To subscribe to the old testament is to admit to being a jew.
Originally posted by sithsaber408
Not all Christians think that, only the confused ones.Sex is a gift from God, to be enjoyed (between a married man and woman, commited to each other for life) and is ALSO for making the next generation.
Surely as a former Christian you have read the Song of Solomon?
Christianity isn't completly anit-sex, the world just has a twisted view of it.
The PEOPLE are what screwed that up, not the religion itself.
according to a fundamentalist you are dead wrong. according to the strictest adherence to the bible, sex is for reproduction and not recreation. its not a gift from god, but a temptation of the devil if enjoyed.
so if you consider yourself a non-fundamentalist christian then you are willing to accept that certain passages in the bible were either misinterpreted, exaggerated, or perhaps even flat out wrong. i think most christians, particularly the sane ones. fall into this category.
these people are open minded enough to not blindly trust a book which has been translated from language to language, and edited and/or abridged by many corrupt powers over thousands of years. good on them, so it should be.
but what gets my goat is that many of these same people suddenly fall back on the "its in the bible so it must be true" copout when confronted with a bible contradicting idea which they dont find palatable. all of the sudden the bible is infallible, given their selective approval...
...which would imply the greatest of all delusions...that one is actually god. after all, how else could one claim to have the power and wisdom to dictate what is right and wrong in the bible?
*sigh*
No, a fundamental Christian who would read the Bible and interperet it literally would know that while sex IS about pro-creation, and is how we get the next generation, it is ALSO about love between two people.
(2 married, commited people.)
There is an ENTIRE book of the Bible, Song of Solomon, which is dedicated to the erotic expression of 2 young believers who are in love and married.
Maybe the wackj0bs would say that sex wasn't made for pleasure as well as creation, but my pastor certainly doesn't preach that.
Originally posted by sithsaber408
*sigh*No, a fundamental Christian who would read the Bible and interperet it literally would know that while sex IS about pro-creation, and is how we get the next generation, it is ALSO about love between two people.
(2 married, commited people.)
There is an ENTIRE book of the Bible, Song of Solomon, which is dedicated to the erotic expression of 2 young believers who are in love and married.
Maybe the wackj0bs would say that sex wasn't made for pleasure as well as creation, but my pastor certainly doesn't preach that.
So true. 😉
Originally posted by sithsaber408
*sigh*No, a fundamental Christian who would read the Bible and interperet it literally would know that while sex IS about pro-creation, and is how we get the next generation, it is ALSO about love between two people.
(2 married, commited people.)
If "sex is about love between two people," then what is wrong with sex between two people of the same sex?
Is it that homosexual couples "are really not comitted to one another?"
Is it that homosexual couples "do not really love one another?"
Is it that homosexual couples "are not really people?"
It cannot be that homosexual couples are un-married, because the only reason they cannot be is because people like you will not let them.
Originally posted by sithsaber408
There is an ENTIRE book of the Bible, Song of Solomon, which is dedicated to the erotic expression of 2 young believers who are in love and married.Maybe the wackj0bs would say that sex wasn't made for pleasure as well as creation, but my pastor certainly doesn't preach that.
King Solomon, the bigamist and adulterer, who had 700 wives and 300 concubines.
Originally posted by sithsaber408
but my pastor certainly doesn't preach that.
Your pastor? Now you understand the hypocrisy that's spews from your mouth, hopefully. Are you incapable of a relationship with god that doesn't involve intrusion from others? A relationship that doesn't involve an intermediary? How original, a man that doesn't think for himself, relying on the bible and those who have usurped it to think for him. Where is your relationship with the ultimately divine? Where is your own understanding of the chrisatian doctrine? Have you read the bible? Can you contradict with verse that hasn't been fed to you, or have you been that well trained? Take it from someone who went to catholic school his whole life, the bible contradicts itself. The flawed, feeling humans that follow it to the letter of the law are no different than those who follow it arbitrarily. Wow, where have we heard that before, in regards to your religious belief?