Punkyhermy> Oh, calm down, will you? No one will take you serious when you start calling your opponents arguments “provincial ‘proof’ bullshit.”
And sorry to knock down your world – but no one had proof the world was square. People back then merely assumed it was. And if it was up to your religion (which burned the first guy who suggested the stars were like the sun), the Earth would still be the centre of the Universe.
“Human ignorance amazes me.”
“Uh-uh WRONG there buddy, believing in something US MERE HUMAN'S can't 'prove' is perfectly REASONABLE.”
Aha! So aliens are real, alien abductions are real, Mohammed is the prophet of God? The Bermuda Triangle is a flying saucer airport? People can move things with their minds? This is all… according to you… reasoable?
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You need to ask yourself by whose standard of proof do we need to adhere? Just because it does not follow the Newtonian definition of science, the abilty to recreate an experiment and to test and retest hypotheses, does not automatically mean that there is not evidence to support an argument for a supernatural diety. Remember, Im not some one who doesnt believe in evolution and thinks the world was created 4 thousand years ago. I am not religious in anyway, however I think that there is a a false trust in the ability of science to be able to prove everything, or to disprove everything. There is tons of stuff in natural world and in the cosmos that we do not understand. If science is unable to explain or to understand everything that we can see with our eyes, how can you expect science to adequately prove or disprove metaphysical and theological concepts outside the area of scientific study?
Turbo-Cajun>” however I think that there is a a false trust in the ability of science to be able to prove everything, or to disprove everything.”
Well, this far the Scientific Method has given us the science and technology you see around us. It’s taken us out of the dark middle-ages and enlightened us on nature. There are many unanswered questions out there, but that doesn’t mean science can’t explain them… Merely that we don’t have enough data or enough information to say anything conclusive.
Oh, and science is not about DISDROVING anything. You can’t prove a negative (is it flying rein-deer time again?).
Why should it be that the “supernatural” somehow defies being proven? Why does it always turn out to be natural phenomena or hoaxes? Or only seen by a small group of believers? Or during Full Moon… Or at dusk? Or after fasting?
Originally posted by The Omega
Punkyhermy> Oh, calm down, will you? No one will take you serious when you start calling your opponents arguments “provincial ‘proof’ bullshit.”
And sorry to knock down your world – but no one had proof the world was square. People back then merely assumed it was.
😆
They didn't assume. They did those oh-so-great experiments which apparently to THEM , ackording to their SUCH limited knowledge, 'proved' that the owlrd was square! 😂 🙄
Originally posted by The Omega
Turbo-Cajun>” however I think that there is a a false trust in the ability of science to be able to prove everything, or to disprove everything.”Well, this far the Scientific Method has given us the science and technology you see around us. It’s taken us out of the dark middle-ages and enlightened us on nature. There are many unanswered questions out there, but that doesn’t mean science can’t explain them… Merely that we don’t have enough data or enough information to say anything conclusive.
Oh, and science is not about DISDROVING anything. You can’t prove a negative (is it flying rein-deer time again?).Why should it be that the “supernatural” somehow defies being proven? Why does it always turn out to be natural phenomena or hoaxes? Or only seen by a small group of believers? Or during Full Moon… Or at dusk? Or after fasting?
Uh...HELLO!
THE WORLD DOESN'T REVOLVE AROUND US!!
Things don't suddenly 'exist' when our meger lil brains aknowldge their existance! 🙄
Punkyhermy> Ahaaaa!
"They did those oh-so-great experiments which apparently to THEM , ackording to their SUCH limited knowledge, 'proved' that the owlrd was square!"
They? Who "they"? Experiment? Which experiment? Where was it conducted? How was it carried out?
“Uh-uh WRONG there buddy, believing in something US MERE HUMAN'S can't 'prove' is perfectly REASONABLE.”
Aha! So aliens are real, alien abductions are real, Mohammed is the prophet of God? The Bermuda Triangle is a flying saucer airport? People can move things with their minds? This is all… according to you… reasoable?
Come on... don't dodge questions you don't like. Why do screaming religious fanatics ALWAYS do that... They answer only one question among three or more... ?
Originally posted by The Omega
Yers> Ah bah, yers! 🙂 When I refer to the "dark" Middle-ages I always think of "The Name of the Rose", the time when Christians went around and burnt scientists.
Dark means unenlightened... Humans are not stupid, and only as ignorant as lack of education and upbringing makes them 😉
erm... how did we get on this subject again?