To all the homosexuals reading this, I have a serious question:
What does it feel like to be gay? Is there no arousal when thinking about the opposite sex, or do you find having sex with a person of the opposite gender to be 'gross'?
(I'm seriously asking this, not trying to be a smartass or anything.)
Is there no arousal when thinking about the opposite sex, or do you find having sex with a person of the opposite gender to be 'gross'?
What you said. It's the same as being heterosexual. Just insert "same sex" in place of "opposite sex". It's really not that hard to imagine.
Although there are varying degrees of homosexuality and heterosexuality. No one is completely homosexual or heterosexual. It's called the Kinsey scale. -6 is completely heterosexual while +6 is completely homosexual. Very very few people meet this criteria. Most people are somewhere inbetween. Oh and "0" obviously means bisexual.
Re: Homosexuality: Chosen or Genetic?
Originally posted by Soth
Well, the answer is obvious to me. Let's see what you think and then I'll pop in w/ my view later
To put in in a nutshell I'd have to think that it's a mixture of genetics and evironment (nature AND nuture). But, I do not at all think that anyone chooses to be gay anymore than anyone chooses to be hetero.
Originally posted by FeceMan
To all the homosexuals reading this, I have a serious question:What does it feel like to be gay? Is there no arousal when thinking about the opposite sex, or do you find having sex with a person of the opposite gender to be 'gross'?
(I'm seriously asking this, not trying to be a smartass or anything.)
Well, that can be an interesting question. I have had sex with girls. Not only have I had sex with them, but I enjoyed it. I think it might be different for a lesbian to have sex with a man...on some levels. But, like most men, I'm a pig. And it was just another dark warm spot to stick it. You can close your eyes and imagine it's whomever you want. For me, the friction of sex is secondary to who I want to be there when it's all over with. I love men, I'm attracted to men. I'll check out a guy before I will a girl. That's just what does it for me. I guess it's a lot like thinking about who'll be holding your hand when you die. I've always known it would be another man. Straight guys want it to be the girl they fell in love with, I want it to be the guy I fell in love with. That's why homosexuality can't be boiled down to just sex. I want to spend the rest of my life with another man. Straight guys want to spend the rest of their lives with a woman. It's all relative.
Its an interesting thing, sexuality.
Firstly, because noone can prove their sexuality! 😱 oh dear, bad news for macho homophobic guys! So the way to go about it is to distance themselfs from ''gay'' people by discriminating - that way, they seem themselfs seem more normal.
In my honest opinion and my social theory there is no such thing as sexuality. You are attracted whom you are attracted - thats the end of it, putting people into groups is ridiculous, much like ''what makes YOU gay - is it the genes, or is it the enviroment''
bloody stupid.
However, we live in such society, so I guess till the attitudes of people change, its going to be the way it is now.
The only thing that it is rather interesting is that even a homosexual couples are having a hetrosexual relationships (yeah you read that right)
''Getting married, having kids'' - those are ALL characteristics of a 'hetrosexual' stereotype of ''what it means to be in love'' - that of course doesnt mean shit.
Like I said - after doing some of my own research and reading my conclusion is that there is no such thing as sexuallity - there is a ''society norm'' that everyone is being dictated to, and whatever doesnt fit that 'norm' is 'the other, different'
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
In my honest opinion and my social theory there is no such thing as sexuality. You are attracted whom you are attracted - thats the end of it, putting people into groups is ridiculous, much like ''what makes YOU gay - is it the genes, or is it the enviroment''
Interesting.
I don't believe you chose or are genetically homosexual. It is the environment that you raised with and subconscious influence of others. That is why at a younger age, you can tell by a lisp or some other reason that there is a good chance the kid will be gay, because people will treat them differently and it may lead to them becoming gay. This is not on purpose either, as I said, they will be treated differently because of people's subconsciousness that match them to a stereotype.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Its an interesting thing, sexuality.In my honest opinion and my social theory there is no such thing as sexuality. You are attracted whom you are attracted - thats the end of it, putting people into groups is ridiculous, much like ''what makes YOU gay - is it the genes, or is it the enviroment''
That's certainly possible. When I meet someone, I have an initial reaction to them...we all do. I can meet another guy and find his attractive, sexy and desireable all at the same time. Then, there are other people I meet that I can find interesting, and only after getting to know them, do I find myself thinkning about sleeping with them.
Unlike most stereotypical gay man, I don't have a lot of female friends, and none that are my age. All of my friends are men, gay or straight. Now, I've known I was agay my whole life, but that doesn't mean that I've lusted after all my friends and that is the basis of my friendship with them. I had a conversation with a friend of mine in which he said that he has thought about sleeping with another guy, even that he has found guys attractive. He was secure in discussing this with me because he knew he prefered women. He was secure in his masculinity for lack of a better term. In fact, he just got married. So, maybe chosen or genetic is an invalid question. No one chooses to be gay, to be different. (and I do feel it's how I was born) But, maybe a better question would be, is there anything that makes you gay?
jesus is some guy who is all almighty and everyone is expected to believe him and do what ever his rules are. personally as i've said, im not going to do that, everyone has a choice, but this is my life, and im not going to tip toe around making sure that i go to church every week and not being around gay people. I know it doesnt say your not allowed to be around people who like the same sex, but it might as well do. so i dont care about anything about jesus...right now! as adventchild said, we are attracted to who we are attracted to
Originally posted by spidergrl
jesus is some guy who is all almighty and everyone is expected to believe him and do what ever his rules are. personally as i've said, im not going to do that, everyone has a choice, but this is my life, and im not going to tip toe around making sure that i go to church every week and not being around gay people. I know it doesnt say your not allowed to be around people who like the same sex, but it might as well do. so i dont care about anything about jesus...right now! as adventchild said, we are attracted to who we are attracted to
FYI, the Bible says nothing about not being around gay people. It says "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." I think that's the sterotype of Christians, that they "hate" on gay people and such. Not so. You may "hate" the person's life-style, but that doesn't doesn't mean you hate on the person. You still treat them with the same respect as you would want. 🙂
But more on topic. I guess I don't see how someone can be born gay. As if to say, it is in their genes and DNA. I don't buy this personally. There is no "gay" gene or anything.
everyone has a choice,
You are so right. Everyone has a chose whether to be gay or not. Just like going to church, becoming a priest, or anything else. Now, I suppose the conflict comes in when we say that they have all of these feelings towards the same sex. Yes, they probably do, but it is still there choice to act on these feelings. It's called Free Will.
I never said that in the bible that it says that we are not allowed to associate with gay people. If you read carefully I said,
"and not being around gay people. I know it doesnt say your not allowed to be around people who like the same sex,"
I think that people who say that they hate "gay" people is because they dont know them, they are judging them by who they like, just like people judge others by their looks, apperance etc... some people probably dont know that they are human beings just like the rest of us
But more on topic. I guess I don't see how someone can be born gay. As if to say, it is in their genes and DNA. I don't buy this personally. There is no "gay" gene or anything.
Im pretty sure that no one had ever said that their is a "Gay Gene" or anything, but I can see how someone can be gay, just like people are born with disabilities, the way they think, the way their body turns out.
You are so right. Everyone has a chose whether to be gay or not. Just like going to church, becoming a priest, or anything else. Now, I suppose the conflict comes in when we say that they have all of these feelings towards the same sex. Yes, they probably do, but it is still there choice to act on these feelings. It's called Free Will.
🙄 ok.....you say before that everyone has a choice and that they werent born gay, personally disagree on both, more so on the choice situation. You say that everyone has a choice on who they like and what feelings you should act on, I think thats rubbish, I guess in away you could say, yes, they can choose to act on these feelings or not, what ever ok. But for them to choose to like them, I think that thats deffintly wrong. I mean you could ask most people who like the same sex if they could go back to when they were born and not be gay, that they would jump for the idea. I mean, in this world today, people are getting discrimanated for being different, for standing up to everyone and showing who they really are and who they like. I believe that they are brave for being honest with themselves. People like that have probably been teased and looked down on because of this, and I dont see how people can choose to be like that, to live a life of that... You quote the bible before Rogue, so I am going to take into consideration that you have read it, as you will know, and everyone mostly know, that God is said to have created all of us. Everyone the way we are, everyone the way that he wanted us to be, he made us with out faults, everyone has these. As I said, people havent woken up one day and said, I think I might be gay, so they WERE gay, or their body developed that way and thats how their hormons are, thats just it! Thats means that God would have had to make us the way we were, that would have had to make him make some of us gay. There for, he made us the way we are, in the bible he said that, with all our faults, but he will love us no matter what. Its no ones choice to be gay, if you believe in god, then you should believe that he did make us this way, and that means he still loves you....