ill explain one more time, and im done,
as this is getting frustrating
it takes no time at all.
http://www.fec.gov/1996/sdrindex.htm
click "Query System:" on the link you provided.
then click "Individual Search:"
you will then be on a search window.
http://www.misleader.org/daily_mislead/read.asp?fn=df03102004.html
now, on the link i provided click any company link, then select any of the names you see. KEEP IN MIND that there are 2 links for each company, 1-direct contribution, and 2-soft money
go back to the search page, type the name, and *PRESTO* the truth
its simple
if you refuse to research it then you refuse, what can i do?
Originally posted by RaventheOnly
but... he is merely suggesting it be put it to Constitutional Convention... 😐 the people decide and the President has absolutely no say. a massive, unheard of percentage must vote for it for it to be passed... some say impossible. but that is te nature of this decision... would you rather it be unanimously turned down, or forced upon us by a minority few with spacific agendas?Considering the circumstances this is actually a very center stagging stance. a very shrewd non-political manuever, usually Presidents are too worried about votes to attempt something they think as important.
"forced upon". What a load of shit.
As if by making it legal in every state gay people will be getting married in teh houses of hte people who are ignorantly against it. Allowing someone a right isn't "forcing" anything on anyone, it's jsut allowing people the same rights as everyone else.
That being said, I'd rather the law be "forced" everywhere, regaurdless of bigoted beliefs. Since that's the only way it will probably happen anytime soon. Since too many dumb old people and hicks are hanging out to outdated morals from the 1950's.
Originally posted by PVS
ill explain one more time, and im done,
as this is getting frustrating
it takes no time at all.http://www.fec.gov/1996/sdrindex.htm
click "Query System:" on the link you provided.
then click "Individual Search:"
you will then be on a search window.http://www.misleader.org/daily_misl...df03102004.html
now, on the link i provided click any company link, then select any of the names you see. KEEP IN MIND that there are 2 links for each company, 1-direct contribution, and 2-soft moneygo back to the search page, type the name, and *PRESTO* the truth
its simple
if you refuse to research it then you refuse, what can i do?
your second link doesn't work, and the companies and political commitees are not in any order you described 😑
Originally posted by BackFire
"forced upon". What a load of shit.As if by making it legal in every state gay people will be getting married in teh houses of hte people who are ignorantly against it. Allowing someone a right isn't "forcing" anything on anyone, it's jsut allowing people the same rights as everyone else.
That being said, I'd rather the law be "forced" everywhere, regaurdless of bigoted beliefs. Since that's the only way it will probably happen anytime soon. Since too many dumb old people and hicks are hanging out to outdated morals from the 1950's.
no not letting a person vote on something because a person in another state did and the courts agreed is FORCING. Its not even a Democracy if we let people make things work like that.
Well if it's necessary to force equal rights on stupid people, so be it. It's the only way it will happen with so many idiotic bigots in the world who don't even realize they're bigots.
It's not forcing, it's allowing. Nothing would be forced onto the people who are against it, it would not affect them in any way. It would simply allow gay people to be married.
Originally posted by PVS
ok, i edited my last post and fixed the link.
my bad
yet for a second time i looked at the site you gave me.... labled MisLeader . ORG and i see no correlation between the numbers at all. and i see nothing in any form of credible to the site 😬
it is obviously VERY one sided and gives no breakdown of the money figures.... 😬 contributing to the Republican party does not neccessarily say it all goes to Bush... there are local, state , federal members how get money from such contributions.
http://www.opensecrets.org/softmoney/softcomp1.asp?txtName=American+Express
That IS weird...because LOTS of people on the internet lie about their age...just watch Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back and you'll know how I feel about you. I hardly ever mention Kerry flip-flopping...only those instances when you and others that like Kerry, try to tell me that he doesn't change his mind...and I'm afraid you won't change my mind about that.
thats weird hunchy, in all my life i have never heard anyone lie about being 30...well except people who are well OVER 30...but whatever.
do you want to keep getting personal and spoil the debate once more?
by the way, you quoted me as saying "you're dumb". thats libel.
all i sugest is that you stop flooding the thread with 1 sentence posts, and expand your arguement beyond the typical 'fiip flop' repeat posts.
Originally posted by PVS
the site does not NEED to be credible is what i am saying. (although it is)
research the names of the execs, and they will come up valid, right down to the exact contribution. OMG
a web site means nothing ... of course there can be half truths... but that means the rest can be totally incorrect.
At least you state your opinion in a non-threatening manner. I like Bush, but I don't think he's a great President. I think we need the same President, so that the things that he's started get followed through for one...and if we get Kerry, things will be changed that shouldn't be right now and that could screw things up in my opinion. I'm glad Kerry doesn't plan to pull out troops, because even if you think the war was wrong, pulling them out now would be chaos. At least he agrees on that.
" i think there all as bad as each other but i think if i wos gonna vote 4 any1 it would be Kerry cuz i think that if we keep bush in then were all bloddy doomed. No offence 2 the bush lovers if there are any..."
Dude, first off, Bush DID NOT change the constitution...he's going by it...Whereas Kerry isn't...by wanting to allow gay marriage...secondly, its not the point that Bush is against gay marriage, its the legalization of it in a court which goes against the constitution...if people wanna be gay, there's nothing stopping them...its there choice...this has nothing to do with being prejudice...or racist against blacks...that was discrimination of the color of skin...not a choice that people made about men being with men and women being with women...one is mental...the other is physical....find the difference for yourself dude...and stop comparing them...
Bush's response to the question about gay marriage was absolutely sickening. As he answered the question babbling about how gay marriage would basically ruined the 'sanctity of marriage" I was reminded of all the blindly religious hick retards who think gay people getting married would somehow ruin it for everyone else. Then, I realized that's pretty much who Bush is, a religious, hateful, hypocritical bigot.
"I'm for equal rights and I think ga people should be allowed to live the way they want, but if they are allowed to get married then it will ruin marriage for everyone because GAY PEOPLE ARE DOING IT." What's the underlying message there? You just know he uses the excuse of "well I guess I'm just old fashioned, gay people shouldn't have the same right to get a document pledging their love for one another that's recognized by the country". You know what else is old fashioned? Thinking black people should be forced to ride in the back of the bus. Bigot.
Bush is a dumbass prejudice hick who changed the american constitution to coincide with his prejudice beliefs.