How come a woman can't never be a prist in the Catholic faith?

Started by Lord Soth11 pages

It's sad to think, in the pre-Christian days, women were once an integral part of society. Sex was once held to be a sacred act. A man was said not to be complete until being paire sexually with a woman. But after Christianity rose in the world, all women with power and status were disenfranchised and demonized, sex was demonized, everything about women became dirty and wrong. All because of what the proverbial 'Eve' did in Genesis

Women have finally (almost) regained what they had in ancient times, except in the Christian faith. Damn all Christians and their bigoted ignorance

Women have finally (almost) regained what they had in ancient times, except in the Christian faith
depends on the denomination

"Damn all Christians..." kind of ironic, when you think about what that word actually means. And do you actually know any Christians?

because catholics are the most hypocritical of denominations in the christian faith.

Originally posted by Gregory
And Adam was cursed with spending the rest of his life doing hard labor, and the snake was punished to crawl on its belly. Everybody involved got slapped down one way or the other; I don't see anything sexist about it.

Yeah, but which is worse... If childbirth is as painful as everybody says it is, I'd much rather be a snake or do hard labor all day than have to go through that on a regular basis.

Originally posted by Laskharis
"Damn all Christians..." kind of ironic, when you think about what that word actually means. And do you actually know any Christians?
Are you kidding? They're everywhere! Like a friggin' plague!. I live in a family of Roman Catholics!

Originally posted by Laskharis
Well, it was a patriarchal society. It doesn't say women are worse than men, it just acknowledges that men were (officially at least) in charge.

if the bible is the words of god, surely they ought to be universal? and if the good old lad had high thoughts about women, surely he'd make sure the book that was published in his name made that clear and spoke from the viewpoint of both sexes?
and yes, I do think that women are made to be worse than men. the man is the one closer to god, course he was made directly from the old man himself. the woman was made from the man, thus inferiour and moved further away from god. she's the temptress and what must be controlled by the man. part of her salvation is her submission.

If they are from god, they still had to be filtered through a human mind.....

Originally posted by Gregory
And Adam was cursed with spending the rest of his life doing hard labor, and the snake was punished to crawl on its belly. Everybody involved got slapped down one way or the other; I don't see anything sexist about it.

I haven't read this part for a very long time, but doesn't it say that the woman is now to be under the man? can't remember ...

anyway, this story is said to be a perverted version of a pagan religion, in which the woman had the final say. their goddess apparently had two symbols; the snake and the apple, representing something like wisdom and fertility. the symbols where twisted around in the christian version, which made the woman and the snake enemies and thus alienated the woman to this symbol of earlier feminine power.

Originally posted by Cipher
If they are from god, they still had to be filtered through a human mind.....

yes, but why accept such big flaws if you have the power to prevent them?
I am aware that the bible is old and has been written and rewritten several times. I just don't see why a god would allow his words to be perverted like that.

"I live in a family of Roman Catholics!" (sorry, can't get the quote thing to work.)
Very nice point!!! Don't worry, not all Christians are ignorant bigots.
Ah, Line, about God not allowing his word to be peverted like that... I think of it in terms of, well, think about love, it is a beautiful, perfect thing, and yet think of how many broken marriages and neglected kids there are. Humans have a tendancy to mess things up...

sure, we mess a lot of things up. but messing up the idea of god himself? his own words? the ones that must help us find the right way? if some of the bible's not quite correct because we messed it up, then how do we know which part it is? and in which degrees it's been messed up?

Aye, good point. I hate this forum, it makes me think about stuff... still, there is that nifty verse, in Galatians I think, about God not caring whether you're male or female, slave or free, Jew or Greek (or some similarly archaic racial divide.) And I always thought the bible had a pretty damn good attitude towards women, especially considering what the greeks and romans were like.
And yeah, there is that vaguely troubling bit in Corinthians about women not speaking in church. And I hate to say this sort of thing, because it always sounds like a cop-out, but perhaps it really is one of those cultural thingies that only applies to the context of Paul's letter to the Corinthians. Especially considering the only other female priests in existence at the time were the holy prostitutes of Aphrodite.
Anyway, my own mother is a minister, and one of the most cynical, anti-authoritarian people I have ever met. So if christianity can work for her...
This reply is much longer than I thought it would be. Sod!

the thing is that if you choose to take lightly on some of the stuff in the bible because of let's say cultural factors, then how's one to know exactly what to take lightly and what not?

they don't know....

This issue is a matter of interpretation, I guess. Personally, I have always taken the no women speaking in churches passages as applying to specific situations. Most people take the head covering one as specific, and I think this one applies too.

You have to think about what was going on at the time. Women then were uneducated. They had never been allowed to participate or even attend in religious services. All of a sudden, they could. They didn't understand things, so they were asking questions. All these passages are saying is that one shouldn't disrupt the service when one doesn't understand what is going on. That is my take anyways.

Woman cant be priests. I mean if woman were priests, who would cook for the priest? Besides, woman were made from the rib of Adam. woman came from men, so woman have to listen to men.

well catholic priest cant marry so I guess they have to cook their meals themselves 🙄

nah, the nuns do it for them.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
Besides, woman were made from the rib of Adam. woman came from men, so woman have to listen to men.

shit