Ultron VS. Juggernaut

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I agree with you to an extent mercilous. His durability is a big factor no doubt, his durability is nearly as unlimited as Hulk's strength, but I wouldn't say it's the only factor when dealing with other heavyweights. He has to be strong as hell to even be a match for someone like Hulk, otherwise he'll be the indestructable guy that gets slapped around all the time. I'm not overestimating Juggernaut, but to say he can't dent Ultron like Hulk could is kinda an understatement, cause he definitely has the potential for it.

A single punch from Juggernaut wouldn't dent Ultron but if he gets Ultron in a corner and repeatedly wails on him, Ultron is headed for the scrap heap. I think.

adamantuim is not invincible you can break it smash it or liquify it (you just can't burn it)

A plasma cannon stops him dead in his tracks.
It's fair to say that all a disintegrator is going to do is push him backwards.
Is Doom's magic. That might kill him. Jugs is susceptible to mind and magic.
Heck a little boy with a book of curses could defeat Juggernaut. 🪩

Thor hammer, mjolnir, uses magic. Juggernaut seems to do okay.

Yeah but when Thor breaks out his godforce, Juggernaut is stopped. Magic can't stop Juggernaut unless it's a supeiror magical force. There are few superior magical forces than the Gem of Cytorrak. The hammer in general is not superior until it produces actual focused magics, like the godforce. Thor's recent rune powers would be sufficient to stop Juggernaut, but they haven't met yet. As for Ultron, I think he'd give up faster than Juggernaut would. But adamantium cannot be broken spyro, only dented.

i've only seen few people stop juggs, if ultron has an ultra-sonic frequency attack then he wins without a doubt, as nimrod has knocked juggernaut unconcious with that before, and as long as you could go to other dimensions you could always banish him somewhere which thor and dr. strange have done before, and of course if you have telepathy, although juggs has a helmet its not completely impossible to take off especially with someone like ultron

i dont know all of ultrons strengths and weaknesses so i cant really say who would win

Originally posted by wrathofachilles
Yeah but when Thor breaks out his godforce, Juggernaut is stopped. Magic can't stop Juggernaut unless it's a supeiror magical force.

Yes. I was just replying to the post that said Juggernaut was susceptible to magic. But anyone would be susceptible to Thor's godblast.

Originally posted by MERCILOUS
Why does everyone insist that juggernaut is near Hulk strength. It's true that Hulk is rated 7 and Juggs is rated 6, but people should note that these numbers rise in an exponential fashion. Juggernaut is near the half to the bottom of his 6 rating while Hulk is near the very top of his 7. When Hulk "hurt" ultron he was at the peak of his power. Ultron has also survived a combined blast of all the JLA's powers. There's no way that Jugs could hurt Ultron, and in return there's no means that Ultron wouldn't try to destroy Juggs. Ultron wins this one

Measuring anything by marvel's site makes your points completely ignored. No offence, but check some of the stats on there, its all bullshit.

Your "sends him flying" arguement is week. If you produce more momentum than what your opponent weighs he's going to fly. Bruce lee can send people flying too, people much much stronger than him. Thor makes Jugs fly and Jugs is "unstoppable." A far more impressive feat by my standards.

1. it's not just any magic it has to be of SUFFICENT (that means at his lvl) strength
2. it's not magic its mystical force

Originally posted by Nataku8188
Measuring anything by marvel's site makes your points completely ignored. No offence, but check some of the stats on there, its all bullshit.

Yeah, i've tried hard to discredit them myself. But the fact remains that Jug's strength is an entire step below the Hulk's and Thor's. Besides many of these "dentings" that people are talking about have occured on a depowered Ultron. He's not 100% adamantium anymore. He loses a little power everytime he evacs out of himself. If we're gonna talk about jugs at his best then it's only fair we do the same for Ultron.

THe big question is though, is there prep involved for Ultron? If so, that may give him a chance at making the proper tech to help take down Juggernaut as Nimrod did. If there's no prep, then I don't see what chance Ultron has.

But the thing is, with or without prep, i don't see a chance for Jugs.

Why not? There is no proof that Ultron has any form of weaponry that can stop Jugs.

There isn't any proof that he doesn't. And as was stated before Ultron is much smarter than good ol' Jughead. Ultron actually has a chance of finding a way where as Jugs will just scratch his head and wonder why.

well sonics isnt the key here...... nimrod may have confused juggernaut with those but thats not what did him in. it was a futuristic weapon and that alone should be enough to conclude that ultron doesnt have it....

future smchutuer. Ultron has gained access to the best weaponry. It really shouldn't be that much a difference (although i can't prove this one.)

DISINTEGRATOR BEAM!

did i spell that right?